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Tinnie wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 01:15 One of the greatest performances i have ever seen without a doubt

gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 01:47 F*cking brutal main event, and an absolutely fantastic performance from Gaethje. The best he's ever looked by a wide margin.

Ricky wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 01:06 yeeha, Ngannu r1 & Gaethje come good.

What a clinic by Gaethje, beat Tony to a pulp. Probably the best I've seen ufc.

handsofstone wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 07:13 I seen Espinoza say that Dana made all involved sign confidentiality agreements about any grievances they might have over covid, disgusting if true, people arent allowed to air any legit health and safety concerns in their workplace

Just goes to show that Dana is only interesting in money and his ego, I take it hes a Trump fan?

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 08:20

handsofstone wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 07:13 I seen Espinoza say that Dana made all involved sign confidentiality agreements about any grievances they might have over covid, disgusting if true, people arent allowed to air any legit health and safety concerns in their workplace

Just goes to show that Dana is only interesting in money and his ego, I take it hes a Trump fan?

Espinoza has no credibility. All of the fighters wanted to fight, they put stringent testing in place and 3 people had it. If anything has been displayed over this stretch is that Dana cares about more than money. Trump was integral in keeping the UFC going in their rough times setting them up in Atlantic city. Crazy thinking back only 15 years or so they were on the verge of folding and now it's more popular and profitable than boxing!

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 09:44

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 08:20

Espinoza has no credibility. All of the fighters wanted to fight, they put stringent testing in place and 3 people had it. If anything has been displayed over this stretch is that Dana cares about more than money. Trump was integral in keeping the UFC going in their rough times setting them up in Atlantic city. Crazy thinking back only 15 years or so they were on the verge of folding and now it's more popular and profitable than boxing!

Yeh. Someone asked Dana at the post fight presser about Espinoza saying that there was something in the contracts. Can’t remember the word he used. Dana was like how would he know what’s on the contracts. He’s supposed to be a lawyer yet doesn’t know anything about contracts.

Espinoza is just against Dana White regardless of anything. He’ll always makes up something bad to say about him or UFC for the sake of it.

handsofstone wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 13:08

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 09:44

Yeh. Someone asked Dana at the post fight presser about Espinoza saying that there was something in the contracts. Can’t remember the word he used. Dana was like how would he know what’s on the contracts. He’s supposed to be a lawyer yet doesn’t know anything about contracts.

Espinoza is just against Dana White regardless of anything. He’ll always makes up something bad to say about him or UFC for the sake of it.

Did he deny it though? Being honest i have next to no knowledge about UFC and all my info comes through what I scroll past on Twitter and I only clock whatever happens to stand out

You've got to respect Dana's game even as a non UFC fan but I just wonder if he's putting innovation before health and safety , if this one went tits up I doubt it would deter him to keep trying to get another show on at the nearest opportunity

p4p1 wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 12:39 That was a demolition. Can’t wait to see him vs Khabib. I’m excited to see him against anyone tbh

Tony is one tough fornicator though. It was a kind of weird stoppage but it was definitely the right call.

Tinnie wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 16:12 Love how absolutely no-one gave a toss about Cejudo's retirement speech, then Rogan casually turns around and continues to throw doubt over the stoppage with his interview with Cruz

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 16:20 He's just posturing for money. He's on a roll and has a claim to being the best fighter in the sport. Orchestrated.

Tinnie wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 16:34

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 16:20 He's just posturing for money. He's on a roll and has a claim to being the best fighter in the sport. Orchestrated.

Yeah I did get that impression too. Also a headline to keep his name out there, which he has done fairly consistently since the DJ fight.

I've seen a few guys retire in the ring and Rogan showed some genuine empathy. This time it came across as 'alrighty then'

p4p1 wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 12:39 That was a demolition. Can’t wait to see him vs Khabib. I’m excited to see him against anyone tbh

Tony is one tough fornicator though. It was a kind of weird stoppage but it was definitely the right call.

Shhhh wrote: ↑11 May 2020, 15:16

TheGman wrote: ↑10 May 2020, 16:52

Tbf p4p I think Ferguson's corner should of pulled him out the end of round 4,Tony was getting lit up and his face was a mess,he was never gonna stop Justin so why get your fighter stopped? We all know how tough Ferguson is so let his corner and Tony show us somethin new next time out. I was gutted Tony lost,he has waited so long to get khabib in the octagon and this happens.

I seen the fight that was some beating he dished out. Tony was like shaking but v tough. I dont know that much about gaetje - how good is he and what are his chances vs khabib?

dazzler wrote: ↑13 May 2020, 04:03

Shhhh wrote: ↑11 May 2020, 15:16

I seen the fight that was some beating he dished out. Tony was like shaking but v tough. I dont know that much about gaetje - how good is he and what are his chances vs khabib?

Gaethje has a strong wrestling background but uses it to avoid take-downs (very very well) and fights mainly with boxing and leg kicks. For most of his career he has been an exciting slugger, arguing that a fighters career is short, and better to perform in front of huge crowds making PPV money and win bonuses than having a safety first career. When he moved to the UFC he had back to back losses against Alvarez and Poirier and seemed to have maybe reached his limit, but then he dialled back the face first aggression and started to improve again. How good is he? Good enough to fight for the title. Can he beat Khabib? Well he has the right style to do so, but Khabib's grappling and pressure is other wordly and I think the champ will start as favourite.

p4p1 wrote: ↑13 May 2020, 05:24

dazzler wrote: ↑13 May 2020, 04:03

Gaethje has a strong wrestling background but uses it to avoid take-downs (very very well) and fights mainly with boxing and leg kicks. For most of his career he has been an exciting slugger, arguing that a fighters career is short, and better to perform in front of huge crowds making PPV money and win bonuses than having a safety first career. When he moved to the UFC he had back to back losses against Alvarez and Poirier and seemed to have maybe reached his limit, but then he dialled back the face first aggression and started to improve again. How good is he? Good enough to fight for the title. Can he beat Khabib? Well he has the right style to do so, but Khabib's grappling and pressure is other wordly and I think the champ will start as favourite.

This is how I see it as well.

I would add that his beating of Tony was impressive as fornicate but I’m not sure that Tony was at his best going into the fight. He had a really long camp because of the original fight cancellation, he stupidly cut weight on the date of the original fight because he is crazy as poo. After that beating though we may never see Tony at his best again anyway.

Shhhh wrote: ↑13 May 2020, 05:56

p4p1 wrote: ↑13 May 2020, 05:24
This is how I see it as well.

I would add that his beating of Tony was impressive as fornicate but I’m not sure that Tony was at his best going into the fight. He had a really long camp because of the original fight cancellation, he stupidly cut weight on the date of the original fight because he is crazy as poo. After that beating though we may never see Tony at his best again anyway.

Cheers for that - one question about Tony. I know peeps rated him as a fighter, but how is he as a person? Obviously a bit nuts but I mean is he regarded as a decent stand up guy? He seems to play the nutter card a bit hard and tbh I can’t warm to a psycho. What is his rep as a human being? Cheers

Shhhh wrote: ↑13 May 2020, 07:46

dazzler wrote: ↑13 May 2020, 07:28

He has a documented history of paranoid psychosis (see here https://www.attacktheback.com/a-detaile ... al-health/). However, other than that he seems a good person. Psychosis is a symptom of a (series of) illness(es) and people shouldn't be judged as bad because of it - they just need to be responsible with their medication, and really good medication exists these days.

Wow thanks for that.... I dont know weather I like him more or less now! Has he had any drug issues? You know like coke problems? Coke seems to cause a lot of psychosis.... I don’t really trust medication tho, they seem to cause as many problems as they solve. Every single person I knew personally who has commit suicide has been on strong medication. I was on it for years and messed my head up

dazzler wrote: ↑13 May 2020, 07:28

Shhhh wrote: ↑13 May 2020, 05:56

Cheers for that - one question about Tony. I know peeps rated him as a fighter, but how is he as a person? Obviously a bit nuts but I mean is he regarded as a decent stand up guy? He seems to play the nutter card a bit hard and tbh I can’t warm to a psycho. What is his rep as a human being? Cheers

He has a documented history of paranoid psychosis (see here https://www.attacktheback.com/a-detaile ... al-health/). However, other than that he seems a good person. Psychosis is a symptom of a (series of) illness(es) and people shouldn't be judged as bad because of it - they just need to be responsible with their medication, and really good medication exists these days.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑13 May 2020, 16:07

dazzler wrote: ↑13 May 2020, 07:28

He has a documented history of paranoid psychosis (see here https://www.attacktheback.com/a-detaile ... al-health/). However, other than that he seems a good person. Psychosis is a symptom of a (series of) illness(es) and people shouldn't be judged as bad because of it - they just need to be responsible with their medication, and really good medication exists these days.

That’s tragic, makes my post above look really harsh. I never knew he was so ill.