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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 06:20
by Wa1nuts
ewenhay wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 20:22 A ruckus at the press conference or weigh in normally gets shown on mainstream news and will definitely shift a few tickets and ppv buys.

Fury's condition is getting better. He's definitely taking this one seriously.
Condition and weight loss aren't directly related

We'll see if he's conditioned on Sunday morning

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 06:43
by Ricky
Wa1nuts wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 06:20
ewenhay wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 20:22 A ruckus at the press conference or weigh in normally gets shown on mainstream news and will definitely shift a few tickets and ppv buys.

Fury's condition is getting better. He's definitely taking this one seriously.
Condition and weight loss aren't directly related

We'll see if he's conditioned on Sunday morning
Apparantly he struggled with the altitude in training.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 07:01
by Ruthless-RKO
KiwiRider wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 02:42 It was interesting to hear Freddie Roach talking about Tyson's power in the southpaw stance. I wonder if he let something slip there. If I was Fury, I would be training in the southpaw stance too, Wilder struggled to land on Ortiz when he was moving and landing his jab and left hand quite well.
He does switch during his fights. It could confuse Wilder.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 08:40
by IrishGuy
Grilling Machine wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 23:41 If Fury's really negative and looking to walk Wilder onto a shot, who's to say that Wilder won't be happy to win this on workrate?

It's not set in stone that Wilder needs a stoppage to avoid falling a mile behind on points, nor that he's willing to take risks if he feels he doesn't have to. If it reaches the halfway point and Wilder's been the busier in a fight with little of note, imagining that pattern following to the end isn't hard.

But I do find it hard not to imagine a descent into messiness at some point, and I foresee the fight ending soon after. I predict a boring fight that finishes with a moment of high drama. That's the bit I'm excited about.
Yeah I agree, I can see like a 115-110 with knockdowns sort of fight too. He'll also be the agressor and it's in america, those judges tend to lap that up.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 08:56
by IrishGuy
The money is pilling in on Fury now, his odds getting cut across the board.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 09:49
by Roars Like Me
Still looks like timber on there for me.

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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 10:00
by Oiky
Fury will never look like a physical specimen but none of that will matter while he's beating wilder

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 10:10
by DrDuke
Oiky wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 10:00 Fury will never look like a physical specimen but none of that will matter while he's beating wilder
That's right. His body has always been deceptive.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 10:11
by Ruthless-RKO
For his eighth title defence, 33-year-old Wilder will pocket £10.94million ($14million).

Fury’s second world title fight will earn him a cool £8million ($10.25million), a figure which dwarves his payday he received for his 2015 bout with Wladimir Klitschko.

The fighters’ respective purses contradict allegedly’s claim that the revenue would be split '50-50’.

Both men’s pursues will significantly increase when they receive their respective cuts of the pay-per-view revenue.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 10:12
by Wa1nuts
Roars Like Me wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 09:49 Still looks like timber on there for me.

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He's a human being. Only so much weight you can lose ffs. Especially if training for a fight where you need fuel

He's done exceptionally well to lose that much weight in 12 months. It will make him lighter on his feet which he needs for his style of fighting but let's hope he's also conditioned

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 10:20
by DrDuke
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 10:11 For his eighth title defence, 33-year-old Wilder will pocket £10.94million ($14million).

Fury’s second world title fight will earn him a cool £8million ($10.25million), a figure which dwarves his payday he received for his 2015 bout with Wladimir Klitschko.

The fighters’ respective purses contradict allegedly’s claim that the revenue would be split '50-50’.

Both men’s pursues will significantly increase when they receive their respective cuts of the pay-per-view revenue.
Fair enough. Both are presented as undefeated champions. A one is a minor belt-holder though, the other one is a true champion without the belts.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 10:25
by Oiky
DrDuke wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 10:10
Oiky wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 10:00 Fury will never look like a physical specimen but none of that will matter while he's beating wilder
That's right. His body has always been deceptive.
It has, not a bodybuilding contest is it pal

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 10:26
by Ruthless-RKO
DrDuke wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 10:20
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 10:11 For his eighth title defence, 33-year-old Wilder will pocket £10.94million ($14million).

Fury’s second world title fight will earn him a cool £8million ($10.25million), a figure which dwarves his payday he received for his 2015 bout with Wladimir Klitschko.

The fighters’ respective purses contradict allegedly’s claim that the revenue would be split '50-50’.

Both men’s pursues will significantly increase when they receive their respective cuts of the pay-per-view revenue.
Fair enough. Both are presented as undefeated champions. A one is a minor belt-holder though, the other one is a true champion without the belts.
I wouldn't call Wilder a minor belt holder.. It's not like he has the IBO belt.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 11:39
by DrDuke
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 10:26
DrDuke wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 10:20
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 10:11 For his eighth title defence, 33-year-old Wilder will pocket £10.94million ($14million).

Fury’s second world title fight will earn him a cool £8million ($10.25million), a figure which dwarves his payday he received for his 2015 bout with Wladimir Klitschko.

The fighters’ respective purses contradict allegedly’s claim that the revenue would be split '50-50’.

Both men’s pursues will significantly increase when they receive their respective cuts of the pay-per-view revenue.
Fair enough. Both are presented as undefeated champions. A one is a minor belt-holder though, the other one is a true champion without the belts.
I wouldn't call Wilder a minor belt holder.. It's not like he has the IBO belt.
Formally you're right. I just call Wilder like that, cause he earned the shot based on beating no top competitors and was defending against other not worthy fighters. WBC kinda lost its value from my perspective.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 12:25
by stufm
Off topic but one thing I didn't realise about Fury was that he was brought up in a nice part of Cheshire in a big house, went to a private school. I always assumed he was brought up on a caravan park or whatever. Read an interview with his dad. Also said Tyson has never had a fight outside the ring, again I'd wrongly assumed that would have been something he'd been brought up in.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 12:31
by Ricky
stufm wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 12:25 Off topic but one thing I didn't realise about Fury was that he was brought up in a nice part of Cheshire in a big house, went to a private school. I always assumed he was brought up on a caravan park or whatever. Read an interview with his dad. Also said Tyson has never had a fight outside the ring, again I'd wrongly assumed that would have been something he'd been brought up in.
I think his name is Luke aswell, i think Tyson is just a gimmick or a middle name.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 12:54
by Ruthless-RKO
RKY wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 12:31
stufm wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 12:25 Off topic but one thing I didn't realise about Fury was that he was brought up in a nice part of Cheshire in a big house, went to a private school. I always assumed he was brought up on a caravan park or whatever. Read an interview with his dad. Also said Tyson has never had a fight outside the ring, again I'd wrongly assumed that would have been something he'd been brought up in.
I think his name is Luke aswell, i think Tyson is just a gimmick or a middle name.
It's Tyson Luke Fury.

Tyson is his name.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 13:32
by samwbr
stufm wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 12:25 Off topic but one thing I didn't realise about Fury was that he was brought up in a nice part of Cheshire in a big house, went to a private school. I always assumed he was brought up on a caravan park or whatever. Read an interview with his dad. Also said Tyson has never had a fight outside the ring, again I'd wrongly assumed that would have been something he'd been brought up in.
Did he even go to school? Loads of travellers dont.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 14:37
by Ruthless-RKO
Wilder, Fury Weight Last 10 Fights

Deontay Wilder

Opponent..................................Date..............................Result..................Weight
Luis Ortiz...............................March 3, 2018..............TKO10......................214 ¾
Bermane Stiverne.......Nov. 4, 2017.....................KO1........................220 ¾
Gerald Washington....Feb. 25, 2017.................TKO5......................222
Chris Arreola......................July 16, 2016..................TKO8.....................226 ¼
Artur Szpilka......................Jan. 16, 2016......................KO9.......................228 ¾
Johann Duhaupas........Sept. 26, 2015..............TKO11...................228 ¾
Eric Molina...........................June 13, 2015..................KO9......................229
Bermane Stiverne.........Jan. 17, 2015..................UD12......................219
Jason Gavern...................Aug 16, 2014..................TKO4...................224
Malik Scott...........................March 15, 2014..............KO1......................227
-------------------------------------

Tyson Fury:

Opponent........................................Date................................Result.................Weight
Francesco Pianeta...........Aug. 18, 2018...........Dec. 10..................258
Sefer Seferi.............................June 9, 2018.................TKO4....................276
Wladimir Klitschko............Nov. 28, 2015............UD12....................247
Christian Hammer............Feb. 28, 2015.............TKO8..................260
Dereck Chisora..................Nov. 29, 2014...............TKO10...............264
Joey Abell..................................Feb. 15, 2014...................TKO4...............274
Steve Cunningham....April 20, 2013................KO7..................254
Kevin Johnson..................Dec. 1, 2012....................UD12..................248
Vinny Maddalone............July 7 2012...................TKO5................245 ½
Martin Rogan.....................April 14, 2012.................TKO5..............245 ½

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 14:55
by Boxerbeetle
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 14:37 Wilder, Fury Weight Last 10 Fights

Deontay Wilder

Opponent..................................Date..............................Result..................Weight
Luis Ortiz...............................March 3, 2018..............TKO10......................214 ¾
Bermane Stiverne.......Nov. 4, 2017.....................KO1........................220 ¾
Gerald Washington....Feb. 25, 2017.................TKO5......................222
Chris Arreola......................July 16, 2016..................TKO8.....................226 ¼
Artur Szpilka......................Jan. 16, 2016......................KO9.......................228 ¾
Johann Duhaupas........Sept. 26, 2015..............TKO11...................228 ¾
Eric Molina...........................June 13, 2015..................KO9......................229
Bermane Stiverne.........Jan. 17, 2015..................UD12......................219
Jason Gavern...................Aug 16, 2014..................TKO4...................224
Malik Scott...........................March 15, 2014..............KO1......................227
-------------------------------------

Tyson Fury:

Opponent........................................Date................................Result.................Weight
Francesco Pianeta...........Aug. 18, 2018...........Dec. 10..................258
Sefer Seferi.............................June 9, 2018.................TKO4....................276
Wladimir Klitschko............Nov. 28, 2015............UD12....................247
Christian Hammer............Feb. 28, 2015.............TKO8..................260
Dereck Chisora..................Nov. 29, 2014...............TKO10...............264
Joey Abell..................................Feb. 15, 2014...................TKO4...............274
Steve Cunningham....April 20, 2013................KO7..................254
Kevin Johnson..................Dec. 1, 2012....................UD12..................248
Vinny Maddalone............July 7 2012...................TKO5................245 ½
Martin Rogan.....................April 14, 2012.................TKO5..............245 ½
Two amazing resumes, there...

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 15:00
by Oiky
Regardless of resumes, wilders getting beat

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 15:39
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 17:06
by Grilling Machine
KiwiRider wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 02:42If I was Fury, I would be training in the southpaw stance too, Wilder struggled to land on Ortiz when he was moving and landing his jab and left hand quite well.
Harrison?
IrishGuy wrote: 29 Nov 2018, 08:56The money is pilling in on Fury now, his odds getting cut across the board.
Didn't the same happen to McGregor? If not Conor, it was definitely a fairly recent fight where the underdog closed right up over the last couple of days.

As for weights, I'll guess 225 for Wilder and 250 for Fury.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 17:21
by Ruthless-RKO


I’d rather he just fought TBA...

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018

Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 17:25
by dr_devious
The odds are closing in, almost evens now. Strange fight, almost anything could happen but the most likely result is one will win by a long way.