Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - 1 December 2018
Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 06:20
Condition and weight loss aren't directly related
We'll see if he's conditioned on Sunday morning
Condition and weight loss aren't directly related
He does switch during his fights. It could confuse Wilder.KiwiRider wrote: ↑29 Nov 2018, 02:42 It was interesting to hear Freddie Roach talking about Tyson's power in the southpaw stance. I wonder if he let something slip there. If I was Fury, I would be training in the southpaw stance too, Wilder struggled to land on Ortiz when he was moving and landing his jab and left hand quite well.
Yeah I agree, I can see like a 115-110 with knockdowns sort of fight too. He'll also be the agressor and it's in america, those judges tend to lap that up.Grilling Machine wrote: ↑28 Nov 2018, 23:41 If Fury's really negative and looking to walk Wilder onto a shot, who's to say that Wilder won't be happy to win this on workrate?
It's not set in stone that Wilder needs a stoppage to avoid falling a mile behind on points, nor that he's willing to take risks if he feels he doesn't have to. If it reaches the halfway point and Wilder's been the busier in a fight with little of note, imagining that pattern following to the end isn't hard.
But I do find it hard not to imagine a descent into messiness at some point, and I foresee the fight ending soon after. I predict a boring fight that finishes with a moment of high drama. That's the bit I'm excited about.

He's a human being. Only so much weight you can lose ffs. Especially if training for a fight where you need fuel
Fair enough. Both are presented as undefeated champions. A one is a minor belt-holder though, the other one is a true champion without the belts.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Nov 2018, 10:11 For his eighth title defence, 33-year-old Wilder will pocket £10.94million ($14million).
Fury’s second world title fight will earn him a cool £8million ($10.25million), a figure which dwarves his payday he received for his 2015 bout with Wladimir Klitschko.
The fighters’ respective purses contradict allegedly’s claim that the revenue would be split '50-50’.
Both men’s pursues will significantly increase when they receive their respective cuts of the pay-per-view revenue.
I wouldn't call Wilder a minor belt holder.. It's not like he has the IBO belt.DrDuke wrote: ↑29 Nov 2018, 10:20Fair enough. Both are presented as undefeated champions. A one is a minor belt-holder though, the other one is a true champion without the belts.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Nov 2018, 10:11 For his eighth title defence, 33-year-old Wilder will pocket £10.94million ($14million).
Fury’s second world title fight will earn him a cool £8million ($10.25million), a figure which dwarves his payday he received for his 2015 bout with Wladimir Klitschko.
The fighters’ respective purses contradict allegedly’s claim that the revenue would be split '50-50’.
Both men’s pursues will significantly increase when they receive their respective cuts of the pay-per-view revenue.
Formally you're right. I just call Wilder like that, cause he earned the shot based on beating no top competitors and was defending against other not worthy fighters. WBC kinda lost its value from my perspective.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Nov 2018, 10:26I wouldn't call Wilder a minor belt holder.. It's not like he has the IBO belt.DrDuke wrote: ↑29 Nov 2018, 10:20Fair enough. Both are presented as undefeated champions. A one is a minor belt-holder though, the other one is a true champion without the belts.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Nov 2018, 10:11 For his eighth title defence, 33-year-old Wilder will pocket £10.94million ($14million).
Fury’s second world title fight will earn him a cool £8million ($10.25million), a figure which dwarves his payday he received for his 2015 bout with Wladimir Klitschko.
The fighters’ respective purses contradict allegedly’s claim that the revenue would be split '50-50’.
Both men’s pursues will significantly increase when they receive their respective cuts of the pay-per-view revenue.
I think his name is Luke aswell, i think Tyson is just a gimmick or a middle name.stufm wrote: ↑29 Nov 2018, 12:25 Off topic but one thing I didn't realise about Fury was that he was brought up in a nice part of Cheshire in a big house, went to a private school. I always assumed he was brought up on a caravan park or whatever. Read an interview with his dad. Also said Tyson has never had a fight outside the ring, again I'd wrongly assumed that would have been something he'd been brought up in.
It's Tyson Luke Fury.RKY wrote: ↑29 Nov 2018, 12:31I think his name is Luke aswell, i think Tyson is just a gimmick or a middle name.stufm wrote: ↑29 Nov 2018, 12:25 Off topic but one thing I didn't realise about Fury was that he was brought up in a nice part of Cheshire in a big house, went to a private school. I always assumed he was brought up on a caravan park or whatever. Read an interview with his dad. Also said Tyson has never had a fight outside the ring, again I'd wrongly assumed that would have been something he'd been brought up in.
Did he even go to school? Loads of travellers dont.stufm wrote: ↑29 Nov 2018, 12:25 Off topic but one thing I didn't realise about Fury was that he was brought up in a nice part of Cheshire in a big house, went to a private school. I always assumed he was brought up on a caravan park or whatever. Read an interview with his dad. Also said Tyson has never had a fight outside the ring, again I'd wrongly assumed that would have been something he'd been brought up in.
Two amazing resumes, there...Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Nov 2018, 14:37 Wilder, Fury Weight Last 10 Fights
Deontay Wilder
Opponent..................................Date..............................Result..................Weight
Luis Ortiz...............................March 3, 2018..............TKO10......................214 ¾
Bermane Stiverne.......Nov. 4, 2017.....................KO1........................220 ¾
Gerald Washington....Feb. 25, 2017.................TKO5......................222
Chris Arreola......................July 16, 2016..................TKO8.....................226 ¼
Artur Szpilka......................Jan. 16, 2016......................KO9.......................228 ¾
Johann Duhaupas........Sept. 26, 2015..............TKO11...................228 ¾
Eric Molina...........................June 13, 2015..................KO9......................229
Bermane Stiverne.........Jan. 17, 2015..................UD12......................219
Jason Gavern...................Aug 16, 2014..................TKO4...................224
Malik Scott...........................March 15, 2014..............KO1......................227
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Tyson Fury:
Opponent........................................Date................................Result.................Weight
Francesco Pianeta...........Aug. 18, 2018...........Dec. 10..................258
Sefer Seferi.............................June 9, 2018.................TKO4....................276
Wladimir Klitschko............Nov. 28, 2015............UD12....................247
Christian Hammer............Feb. 28, 2015.............TKO8..................260
Dereck Chisora..................Nov. 29, 2014...............TKO10...............264
Joey Abell..................................Feb. 15, 2014...................TKO4...............274
Steve Cunningham....April 20, 2013................KO7..................254
Kevin Johnson..................Dec. 1, 2012....................UD12..................248
Vinny Maddalone............July 7 2012...................TKO5................245 ½
Martin Rogan.....................April 14, 2012.................TKO5..............245 ½
Harrison?
Didn't the same happen to McGregor? If not Conor, it was definitely a fairly recent fight where the underdog closed right up over the last couple of days.