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Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 05:25
by maverick23
mickey1975 wrote: 16 May 2022, 04:49 Bit strange Tyson going to France on his holidays instead of Vegas.
If they’re banning people with links to Kinahan then Tyson will be fairly high on the list given the $1m dollars Bob was paying him for acting on Tyson’s behalf and the fact Tyson had openly praised him.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 05:28
by maverick23
600 is a hell of a lot. I wonder how far that goes - would say Eddie and Frank be banned because they dealt with MTK? Would MTK boxers be banned (Josh Warrington as an example)?

It’d be a real bad hit for Eddie if he can’t get over there.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 06:19
by Nightmare Roy
maverick23 wrote: 16 May 2022, 05:28 600 is a hell of a lot. I wonder how far that goes - would say Eddie and Frank be banned because they dealt with MTK? Would MTK boxers be banned (Josh Warrington as an example)?

It’d be a real bad hit for Eddie if he can’t get over there.
pretty much all the promoters will be on that list I'd imagine surely?

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 06:28
by maverick23
Nightmare Roy wrote: 16 May 2022, 06:19
maverick23 wrote: 16 May 2022, 05:28 600 is a hell of a lot. I wonder how far that goes - would say Eddie and Frank be banned because they dealt with MTK? Would MTK boxers be banned (Josh Warrington as an example)?

It’d be a real bad hit for Eddie if he can’t get over there.
pretty much all the promoters will be on that list I'd imagine surely?
Who knows. Sky did a deal with MTK for the golden contract so are some of those guys banned too? MTK worked with everyone.

Most of the U.K. promoters are just focusing on the U.K. but Eddie could be really screwed with this.

Will be interesting to see what happens.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 07:46
by polecateddy
‘El Chapo’ got life plus 30 years after a trial in New York in 2019. Time to be served in super max prison. I’d expect that’s what Daniel is worried about mainly.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 08:06
by gregregegg
I wonder what the path back to "not being banned" is for those banned.

I also wonder if big promo companies planned for this at all... be smart, have one guy do all direct dealings with Daniel/MTK.... bit of a patsy job, that pays well...

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 08:09
by maverick23
gregregegg wrote: 16 May 2022, 08:06 I wonder what the path back to "not being banned" is for those banned.

I also wonder if big promo companies planned for this at all... be smart, have one guy do all direct dealings with Daniel/MTK.... bit of a patsy job, that pays well...
Did the TV companies/promoters who worked with Kinahan do anything wrong? I don’t think so as he wasn’t banned by anyone and he was seemingly representing the fighters.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 08:14
by polecateddy
maverick23 wrote: 16 May 2022, 08:09
gregregegg wrote: 16 May 2022, 08:06 I wonder what the path back to "not being banned" is for those banned.

I also wonder if big promo companies planned for this at all... be smart, have one guy do all direct dealings with Daniel/MTK.... bit of a patsy job, that pays well...
Did the TV companies/promoters who worked with Kinahan do anything wrong? I don’t think so as he wasn’t banned by anyone and he was seemingly representing the fighters.
"Sky Sports is aware of recent developments including the US Treasury sanctions announcement. We always scrutinise and act responsibly in our boxing relationships."

But internally I bet they have brought in codes of practice to make sure this doesn’t happen again in a hurry!

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 08:26
by TheLeprechaun
That's quite a lot of people. Definitely a lot of people in boxing. I thought people like Sunny Edwards were treating it like some kind of funny game and not realizing the seriousness of what could happen.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 09:07
by gregregegg
maverick23 wrote: 16 May 2022, 08:09
gregregegg wrote: 16 May 2022, 08:06 I wonder what the path back to "not being banned" is for those banned.

I also wonder if big promo companies planned for this at all... be smart, have one guy do all direct dealings with Daniel/MTK.... bit of a patsy job, that pays well...
Did the TV companies/promoters who worked with Kinahan do anything wrong? I don’t think so as he wasn’t banned by anyone and he was seemingly representing the fighters.
Depends on what dans true involvment in boxing is.

-If Dan was just using boxing to try and look like a legit respectable figure then people working with him probably broke no laws.

-If Dan was laundering money through boxing deals, then those promoters/TV companys doing the deals are probably breaking the law, Depending on there part in the deals, and there suspicion (and what countries laws your looking at).

Either way, If Im a top dog promoter or broardcaster im wanting a bit of space between me and Dan in the dealings world, because it cant be that shocking that something like this would happen, and even without the visa bans, its not the best publicity.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 12:07
by Blueprint

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 12:22
by TheLeprechaun
What a MILF!!! :bow:

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 14:21
by Blueprint
A good journalist would leak the 600 names. :twisted:

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 14:28
by Pugilist-specialist
maverick23 wrote: 16 May 2022, 05:28 600 is a hell of a lot. I wonder how far that goes - would say Eddie and Frank be banned because they dealt with MTK? Would MTK boxers be banned (Josh Warrington as an example)?

It’d be a real bad hit for Eddie if he can’t get over there.
Maybe MTK Leeds would have to explain who paid for the air-con in their gym?

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 14:42
by maverick23
Pugilist-specialist wrote: 16 May 2022, 14:28
maverick23 wrote: 16 May 2022, 05:28 600 is a hell of a lot. I wonder how far that goes - would say Eddie and Frank be banned because they dealt with MTK? Would MTK boxers be banned (Josh Warrington as an example)?

It’d be a real bad hit for Eddie if he can’t get over there.
Maybe MTK Leeds would have to explain who paid for the air-con in their gym?
Yep - I’m sure all the guys working for MTK, particularly running the gyms, will be on the list. That’s probably around 50 people though…

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 15:52
by Floydendizer
Believe or not Sarah is actually a GILF .

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 17:16
by high tower 1
mickey1975 wrote: 16 May 2022, 04:49 Bit strange Tyson going to France on his holidays instead of Vegas.
Tyson is a well noted lover of French culture. He’s likely doing the cezanne art trail on the south of France.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 17:27
by Ruthless-RKO
high tower 1 wrote: 16 May 2022, 17:16
mickey1975 wrote: 16 May 2022, 04:49 Bit strange Tyson going to France on his holidays instead of Vegas.
Tyson is a well noted lover of French culture. He’s likely doing the cezanne art trail on the south of France.
Yes. He is definitely in the south of France.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 17:29
by mickey1975
He's on a yacht with Paris, Big John and six kids. The staff will earn their money.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 16 May 2022, 19:42
by coneye
mickey1975 wrote: 16 May 2022, 17:29 He's on a yacht with Paris, Big John and six kids. The staff will earn their money.
Yeh seen that video on utube ,,, Tyson and Paris certainly look to be having a good time and good on them ,, Yet look at John there he looked like a fish out of water , sat on a half a million dollar boat , with waitresses and staff serving drinks and snacks ,, no one to shout at , :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 17 May 2022, 04:22
by Counter-puncher
coneye wrote: 16 May 2022, 19:42
mickey1975 wrote: 16 May 2022, 17:29 He's on a yacht with Paris, Big John and six kids. The staff will earn their money.
Yeh seen that video on utube ,,, Tyson and Paris certainly look to be having a good time and good on them ,, Yet look at John there he looked like a fish out of water , sat on a half a million dollar boat , with waitresses and staff serving drinks and snacks ,, no one to shout at , :lol: :lol: :lol:
ha.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 17 May 2022, 10:54
by JamesPhilips
coneye wrote: 16 May 2022, 19:42
mickey1975 wrote: 16 May 2022, 17:29 He's on a yacht with Paris, Big John and six kids. The staff will earn their money.
Yeh seen that video on utube ,,, Tyson and Paris certainly look to be having a good time and good on them ,, Yet look at John there he looked like a fish out of water , sat on a half a million dollar boat , with waitresses and staff serving drinks and snacks ,, no one to shout at , :lol: :lol: :lol:
Tommy is never with the family. He’s not really one of them is he? They don’t like him lol

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 17 May 2022, 10:58
by mickey1975
JamesPhilips wrote: 17 May 2022, 10:54
coneye wrote: 16 May 2022, 19:42
mickey1975 wrote: 16 May 2022, 17:29 He's on a yacht with Paris, Big John and six kids. The staff will earn their money.
Yeh seen that video on utube ,,, Tyson and Paris certainly look to be having a good time and good on them ,, Yet look at John there he looked like a fish out of water , sat on a half a million dollar boat , with waitresses and staff serving drinks and snacks ,, no one to shout at , :lol: :lol: :lol:
Tommy is never with the family. He’s not really one of them is he? They don’t like him lol
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He hasn't taken his five other brothers and their families either. I was quite impressed when I saw the kids onboard. It would have been a lot easier for them to be looked after for a week or so.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 17 May 2022, 10:59
by JamesPhilips
mickey1975 wrote: 17 May 2022, 10:58
JamesPhilips wrote: 17 May 2022, 10:54
coneye wrote: 16 May 2022, 19:42

Yeh seen that video on utube ,,, Tyson and Paris certainly look to be having a good time and good on them ,, Yet look at John there he looked like a fish out of water , sat on a half a million dollar boat , with waitresses and staff serving drinks and snacks ,, no one to shout at , :lol: :lol: :lol:
Tommy is never with the family. He’s not really one of them is he? They don’t like him lol
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He hasn't taken his five other brothers and their families either. I was quite impressed when I saw the kids onboard. It would have been a lot easier for them to be looked after for a week or so.
True. But I just mean in general. Like plumming him off after the Whyte fight.

Re: BBC Panorama - "Boxing and the Mob"

Posted: 17 May 2022, 11:20
by mickey1975
He never mentions Roman and I've never seen his older brother Little John. It was always him, Shane and Hughie. A bit like The Osbourne's. They have an older sibling whose always shunned the limelight.