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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 27 Apr 2021, 13:38
by coghaugen11
mickey1975 wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 11:41
tony1234 wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 11:38 Beginning to think this doesn't happen, Fury walks away from boxing and Joshua fights Whyte
Fury is going nowhere. In his absolute prime and enjoying his boxing.
Eh? He doesn’t fight.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 27 Apr 2021, 13:56
by BigDoofus
handsofstone wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 13:37
BigDoofus wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 12:32
handsofstone wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 12:29

It was Xu who wanted to wait it out until crowds were there , like most he probably assumed that the Lara win was a cert
So it would have been a unification without World champions?
Eh? Warrington was still champ when it was supposed to happen and it was assumed by most that he would still be after he fought Lara, the Xu fight was apparantly happening in summer
His fight with Lara was a non-title fight. Hearn was talking of a "unification" at the start of this year.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 27 Apr 2021, 17:45
by handsofstone
BigDoofus wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 13:56
handsofstone wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 13:37
BigDoofus wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 12:32

So it would have been a unification without World champions?
Eh? Warrington was still champ when it was supposed to happen and it was assumed by most that he would still be after he fought Lara, the Xu fight was apparantly happening in summer
His fight with Lara was a non-title fight. Hearn was talking of a "unification" at the start of this year.
Thats right mate, i forgot he ended up vacating because the IBF wouldnt sanction Lara, the title was initially meant to be on line, doubt the IBF would've even sanctioned it as a unification because none of the other ABCs recognize the Regular title,

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 04:26
by BigDoofus
handsofstone wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 17:45
BigDoofus wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 13:56
handsofstone wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 13:37

Eh? Warrington was still champ when it was supposed to happen and it was assumed by most that he would still be after he fought Lara, the Xu fight was apparantly happening in summer
His fight with Lara was a non-title fight. Hearn was talking of a "unification" at the start of this year.
Thats right mate, i forgot he ended up vacating because the IBF wouldnt sanction Lara, the title was initially meant to be on line, doubt the IBF would've even sanctioned it as a unification because none of the other ABCs recognize the Regular title,
The IBF wouldn't sanction it. They were insisting that he faced his mandatory challenger. Neither of these facts prevented Hearn spending months talking of the "unification".
"Saudi contract within 24 hours" is looking remarkably similar to me.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 05:50
by garethhop
margaret thatcher wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 12:07 tbh i think a lot of ppl dont want the fight to happen, for the reason that it is somehow a victory for the 'machine'

look at the moaning about the location, crowd, etc.......it's like people dont even give a f@ck about the fight in the ring!
I'll be honest. I'd have absolutely loved to see them in the ring at Wembley/Cardiff/Vegas at any point in the last few years. Utterly brilliant fight between two very good heavyweights and the best two at their weight. And the gap has narrowed in my view due to Tyson's inactivity and Joshua's confidence builder vs Pulev.

As this has dragged and dragged (initially understandably due to the pandemic) and eventually turned into a dodgy Saudi funded prizefight sold by Fast Car, it has sapped my enthusiasm.

When it inevitably happens (and it'll be a very very odd occasion no doubt), I'll be right bang up for it again and even pay for the thing to make sure I am not hampered by any buffering of streams. Sure a few people are in my boat.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 06:03
by Coco
I've got a feeling folk will feel let down because it wont be competitive, despite it being billed as 50-50

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 06:05
by coghaugen11
I’m not excited. Fury will win by landslide or stoppage.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 08:00
by stujones
Coco wrote: 28 Apr 2021, 06:03 I've got a feeling folk will feel let down because it wont be competitive, despite it being billed as 50-50
Good chance it will be a dull one I think, there is a lot of rose tinted spectacles when it comes to how "exciting" either are in fighting - they've had a couple of drama filled fights (Klitchscko / Wilder etc) - but there is a lot of quite boring, safety first fights also form both guys.

I think though the Pulev performance and the fact AJ has fought more recently has possibly giving him the best chance to beat Fury. If he can't beat Fury in fight 1, if its like a 116-112 Fury, then I'd rather see Fury fight some other guys as opposed to rematch Joshua - this is Joshua's best chance. Confidence is high, he seems have lost a futher load of muscle and Fury hasn't fought in over a year.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 08:05
by mickey1975
He boxed Ruiz 2 and Pulev. The worst tactics he could use against Tyson.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 10:45
by handsofstone
I agree with Maggie that loads of people dont want this fight to happen, all Fury fans i might add, Fury, Arum and Warren can do a presser stating they dont want the fight and the Fury faction will still find a way to blame it on Hearn/Joshua, oddballs i just dont get it, all we hear from Team Fury is negativity, crap about ticket sales and pandemics as if thats gonna matter to billionaire princes and oil sheikhs desperate to land the biggest fight out there, if Hearn and AJ didnt want the Fury fight then they have a perfect excuse in the pandemic not to take it, yet Hearn is flying to middle east etc, sending drafts, banging the drum, why the fcvk would he do all that ? For a laugh? I doubt he'd have time to play games

As for Arum and Warren maybe they should get off their arses and try make things happen, they've got 100+ years experience over Hearn, maybe they can do better if they really want fight,

If this fight doesnt happen only a simpleton would blame Joshua and credit Fury, you can lead a horse to water...

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 10:47
by handsofstone
BigDoofus wrote: 28 Apr 2021, 04:26
handsofstone wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 17:45
BigDoofus wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 13:56

His fight with Lara was a non-title fight. Hearn was talking of a "unification" at the start of this year.
Thats right mate, i forgot he ended up vacating because the IBF wouldnt sanction Lara, the title was initially meant to be on line, doubt the IBF would've even sanctioned it as a unification because none of the other ABCs recognize the Regular title,
The IBF wouldn't sanction it. They were insisting that he faced his mandatory challenger. Neither of these facts prevented Hearn spending months talking of the "unification".
"Saudi contract within 24 hours" is looking remarkably similar to me.
Hows Arum and Warren getting on in negotiations?? Have they made any headway yet??

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 11:10
by Jimmy2020
Is it not the case that the deal was there but Hearn had forgotten about the Olympics and McCracken's commitments and AJ has bollocked Hearn and told him to get the date changed?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 11:23
by handsofstone
Jimmy2020 wrote: 28 Apr 2021, 11:10 Is it not the case that the deal was there but Hearn had forgotten about the Olympics and McCracken's commitments and AJ has bollocked Hearn and told him to get the date changed?
Cant see Hearn forgetting about the McCracken situation or Joshua for that matter

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 11:24
by handsofstone
Allas wrote: 28 Apr 2021, 11:05
handsofstone wrote: 28 Apr 2021, 10:45 I agree with Maggie that loads of people dont want this fight to happen, all Fury fans i might add, Fury, Arum and Warren can do a presser stating they dont want the fight and the Fury faction will still find a way to blame it on Hearn/Joshua, oddballs i just dont get it, all we hear from Team Fury is negativity, crap about ticket sales and pandemics as if thats gonna matter to billionaire princes and oil sheikhs desperate to land the biggest fight out there, if Hearn and AJ didnt want the Fury fight then they have a perfect excuse in the pandemic not to take it, yet Hearn is flying to middle east etc, sending drafts, banging the drum, why the fcvk would he do all that ? For a laugh? I doubt he'd have time to play games

As for Arum and Warren maybe they should get off their arses and try make things happen, they've got 100+ years experience over Hearn, maybe they can do better if they really want fight,

If this fight doesnt happen only a simpleton would blame Joshua and credit Fury, you can lead a horse to water...
Don't forget 'Gypsy John' on tele every week playing down the chances of it happening. He's petrified of his son losing.
Wearing his own John Fury t shirts and gearing up for his tour :lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 11:24
by maverick23
Jimmy2020 wrote: 28 Apr 2021, 11:10 Is it not the case that the deal was there but Hearn had forgotten about the Olympics and McCracken's commitments and AJ has bollocked Hearn and told him to get the date changed?
Has AJ come out and bollocked Hearn?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 11:28
by mickey1975
I think every Fury fan can’t wait for it.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 12:16
by handsofstone
mickey1975 wrote: 28 Apr 2021, 11:28 I think every Fury fan can’t wait for it.
If it doesn't happen this year then UK boxing can go eff itself, doesn't matter if you prefer Joshua or Fury or are neutral, it needs to happen

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 12:54
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 15:12
by BigDoofus
handsofstone wrote: 28 Apr 2021, 10:47
BigDoofus wrote: 28 Apr 2021, 04:26
handsofstone wrote: 27 Apr 2021, 17:45

Thats right mate, i forgot he ended up vacating because the IBF wouldnt sanction Lara, the title was initially meant to be on line, doubt the IBF would've even sanctioned it as a unification because none of the other ABCs recognize the Regular title,
The IBF wouldn't sanction it. They were insisting that he faced his mandatory challenger. Neither of these facts prevented Hearn spending months talking of the "unification".
"Saudi contract within 24 hours" is looking remarkably similar to me.
Hows Arum and Warren getting on in negotiations?? Have they made any headway yet??
They made as much headway in the Warrington - Xu Can "Unification" as Hearn did, but with a few less IFL interviews.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 15:23
by KiwiRider
So... In a nut shell it's not happening?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 15:47
by handsofstone
BigDoofus wrote: 28 Apr 2021, 15:12
handsofstone wrote: 28 Apr 2021, 10:47
BigDoofus wrote: 28 Apr 2021, 04:26

The IBF wouldn't sanction it. They were insisting that he faced his mandatory challenger. Neither of these facts prevented Hearn spending months talking of the "unification".
"Saudi contract within 24 hours" is looking remarkably similar to me.
Hows Arum and Warren getting on in negotiations?? Have they made any headway yet??
They made as much headway in the Warrington - Xu Can "Unification" as Hearn did, but with a few less IFL interviews.
Whats with the obsession of Warrington/Can being a unification? It was never a unification anyhow because Can never held a legit world title, it was a great match up nonetheless, looked to be happening then Can decided he wanted to wait until Spring/Summer to see what crowd situation was, Warrington fought Lara in meantime because he hadn't fought in over year, Lara knocked him out so now Josh has rematch, simply put Xu decided not to fight

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 17:19
by Manchester Hitman
Forget it lads-this fight is not happening. Boxing is a mess.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 17:19
by BigDoofus

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 17:23
by margaret thatcher
handsofstone wrote: 28 Apr 2021, 10:45 I agree with Maggie that loads of people dont want this fight to happen, all Fury fans i might add, Fury, Arum and Warren can do a presser stating they dont want the fight and the Fury faction will still find a way to blame it on Hearn/Joshua, oddballs i just dont get it, all we hear from Team Fury is negativity, crap about ticket sales and pandemics as if thats gonna matter to billionaire princes and oil sheikhs desperate to land the biggest fight out there, if Hearn and AJ didnt want the Fury fight then they have a perfect excuse in the pandemic not to take it, yet Hearn is flying to middle east etc, sending drafts, banging the drum, why the fcvk would he do all that ? For a laugh? I doubt he'd have time to play games

As for Arum and Warren maybe they should get off their arses and try make things happen, they've got 100+ years experience over Hearn, maybe they can do better if they really want fight,

If this fight doesnt happen only a simpleton would blame Joshua and credit Fury, you can lead a horse to water...
:salut:

i also think it would be a lot more painful for fury fans if aj won, then it would be for aj fans if fury won

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 24 July 2021?

Posted: 28 Apr 2021, 17:25
by maverick23
BigDoofus wrote: 28 Apr 2021, 17:19
Is Eddie the only person that can make the fight? If he can’t make it with the Saudis then why isn’t Bob trying to do a deal with another location?