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Carlos-Wigan wrote:

righthook wrote:

Carlos-Wigan wrote:I am going to put my tin hat on now and be the voice of dissent.

I have been a big fan of Tony Bellew since he was an amateur - saw his fights when he was fighting at heavyweight and he is the one amateur I thought (and still think) who will develop into a really good fighter (without making any daft predictions because as we have seen with Errol Christie, Audley Harrison, George Collins etc the best amateurs in this country don't always become the best pro's, poop happens) it has been a suprise to see him fight at light heavyweight as a pro but he has done all thats asked of him up till now.

But the thing is Tony, you haven't beaten any of your domestic competitors to have the right to fight for that title. It is OK shouting for a chance at the British and Commonwealth titles but you know - what have you done to deserve it? If you had at least beat Danny McIntosh, Courtney Fry, Spartacus, Matthew Barney or Oakey then fair enough - but at this moment in time you haven't fought any of your domestic rivals which would count as an eliminator and then you can go 'well, here I am - its my turn'

Ovil McKenzie is a tough guy who has paid his dues and is deserving of a break and he certainly deserves his shot at the titles - I also think Tony Oakey deserves his shot as well - The titles aren't going anywhere - all I am saying personally - before you call out Cleverly and McKenzie - fight at least one of your domestic rivals and become the no1 domestic challenger by earning it.

And remember people - its a point of view thats been made in a respectful manner - lets keep the debate that way eh?

no disrespect to you carlos-wigan but every single name u have mentioned above bar none have already knocked the fight back with bellew so how the hell is he ment to fight these guys if there all 5hit houses?

I don't personally know what the reason or why the above mentioned have knocked back a date with Tony Bellew - it could be a plethora or reasons - venues, dates, purse money - Tony is at the stage though of getting in on in a British title eliminator and I am certainly not saying he would lose to any of these fighters - he is a very talented fighter - however, I can certainly see why Frank Maloney doesn't think Bellew figures in Ovil McKenzies immediate future - Ovil is basically the next in line for any vacant domestic title as is Oakey - its all set more or less so why fight Tony which is a step back for Ovil at this moment in time. It just doesn't make any sense.

Make Bellew vs Fry/McIntosh/Spartacus/Barney as an eliminator for the titles - Tony has allegedly as his manager - it could be easily made even if it means digging into his pockets a bit more - and then - if and when he beats these fighters - its game on!

mickey1975 wrote:Would Fwank want options on McKenzie if he was to win?

twenty six wrote:Just takin time out here to wish Billy all the best for a speedy recovery.
He fractured the eye socket last night.
Also - Fewkes was robbed never a draw.

Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Tony - would you fight Bob Ajisafe or Carl Dilks if the fights were offered ? Ajisafe already has a win over Mckenzie of course and doesn't appear to have anything in the pipeline. Might be a bit soon for Dilks although neither are Maloney fighters, so these matches could be made.

Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Tony - would you fight Bob Ajisafe or Carl Dilks if the fights were offered ? Ajisafe already has a win over Mckenzie of course and doesn't appear to have anything in the pipeline. Might be a bit soon for Dilks although neither are Maloney fighters, so these matches could be made.

two wrote:

jBacca wrote:

two wrote:bellew talks a good game but continues to fight bums and celebrate as if he won the lottery after he beats them.

Go away you rat, your trolling is boring.

Wake me up when bellew fights someone decent.

We all know he's going to fight a bum next and then drop to his knees and start pumping his fists and screaming "YEAH!! IM THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!" after he wins.

As Clev said, "Bomber Bellew fights BUMS".

two wrote:

jBacca wrote:

two wrote:bellew talks a good game but continues to fight bums and celebrate as if he won the lottery after he beats them.

Go away you rat, your trolling is boring.

Wake me up when bellew fights someone decent.

We all know he's going to fight a bum next and then drop to his knees and start pumping his fists and screaming "YEAH!! IM THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!" after he wins.

As Clev said, "Bomber Bellew fights BUMS".

King Haye wrote:

two wrote:

jBacca wrote: Go away you rat, your trolling is boring.

Wake me up when bellew fights someone decent.

We all know he's going to fight a bum next and then drop to his knees and start pumping his fists and screaming "YEAH!! IM THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!" after he wins.

As Clev said, "Bomber Bellew fights BUMS".

jbacca u havent got a clue look at clevs record he fought his fair share of 'bums' and then they both fought nick okoth and oakly fry danny mc wont fight him n e way quigly is a supper mid now, and dilks wont fight him so were can he go now u tell me, and he celebrates because after all he the effort he puts in he deserves to b happy. and he will be the BEST lightheavy weight. And look at clevs next opponent is there n e point id just give him the belt now bomber will fuk clev given the chance u wait and see

two wrote:

MrBoxingUK2 wrote:@two you talk absolute horse poop. do you not actually listen to what everybody is saying? nobody will fight bellew. that is why he is fighting "bums" as you say. you obviously have some personal vendetta over bomber. maybe your a clev fan? ease up on the hate and give your point of view without being an arsehole.

Sorry mate. I just dont like how bellew celebrates as if he just got jessica albas number every time he wins against these bums mate. he has talent, im not denying that. and hes right about one thing... maloney is a proper little knome

jBacca wrote:

two wrote:

jBacca wrote: Go away you rat, your trolling is boring.

Wake me up when bellew fights someone decent.

We all know he's going to fight a bum next and then drop to his knees and start pumping his fists and screaming "YEAH!! IM THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!" after he wins.

As Clev said, "Bomber Bellew fights BUMS".

Bomber sparked out Velecky in 1 round. Velecky had just taken Stieglitz the WBO champ, the full distance.

You talk out your arse and are probably a shithouse in real life. You need to turn up to one of these cards one day and say hello, i'd give you 2 minutes before you were out the fire exit.

MrBoxingUK2 wrote:

two wrote:

MrBoxingUK2 wrote:@two you talk absolute horse poop. do you not actually listen to what everybody is saying? nobody will fight bellew. that is why he is fighting "bums" as you say. you obviously have some personal vendetta over bomber. maybe your a clev fan? ease up on the hate and give your point of view without being an arsehole.

Sorry mate. I just dont like how bellew celebrates as if he just got jessica albas number every time he wins against these bums mate. he has talent, im not denying that. and hes right about one thing... maloney is a proper little knome

his celebration when he beat velecky was over the top but does that really bother you that much? he seems an alright lad and a good fighter

TerribleTerry wrote:
It is Lirva trolling again mate - how he hasn't been banned again yet is beyond me...

TerribleTerry wrote:It is Lirva trolling again mate - how he hasn't been banned again yet is beyond me...

MrBoxingUK2 wrote:@ King Haye i disagree that bellew will "fuk" clev. we have to see bomber in british and commonwealth title fights before we know what he is really made of. and cleverly's next opponent brancalian is a decent fighter. he is past it but still one of clev's toughest tests maybe. I see from your other comments that your a bellew fan and you may knw him personally.dont let that sway your judgment on cleverly. he looks the real deal to me so far. i'm not doubting for one minute that bellew won't become british champion or maybe even go further but until a fighter has been tested and been in 12 round fights then its hard to compare them we will see in the next few months.

King Haye wrote:

two wrote:

jBacca wrote: Go away you rat, your trolling is boring.

Wake me up when bellew fights someone decent.

We all know he's going to fight a bum next and then drop to his knees and start pumping his fists and screaming "YEAH!! IM THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!" after he wins.

As Clev said, "Bomber Bellew fights BUMS".

Two - u havent got a clue look at clevs record he fought his fair share of 'bums' and then they both fought nick okoth and oakly fry danny mc wont fight him n e way quigly is a supper mid now, and dilks wont fight him so were can he go now u tell me, and he celebrates because after all he the effort he puts in he deserves to b happy. and he will be the BEST lightheavy weight. And look at clevs next opponent is there n e point id just give him the belt now bomber will fuk clev given the chance u wait and see