BoxRec

Tom Dallas is a 13 stone man who's been stretched to 6'6". He'll do nowt at HW.

ThereByTheGrace wrote:

FtmPress wrote:What should be John next move and Matt's like to hear you the fan's thinking on these 2

Get John in with Audley Harrison and put Matt in with Lewison on the same card. Two closely matched fights again IMO.

great call mate and what about chisora topping the bill for a title say (commonwealth/european) and they could have it at barry hearns leyton orient ground in the summer with frank warrens allegedly screening it that way you get 3 promoters working TOGETHER just a thought

Darcy Delaney wrote:

ThereByTheGrace wrote:

FtmPress wrote:What should be John next move and Matt's like to hear you the fan's thinking on these 2

Get John in with Audley Harrison and put Matt in with Lewison on the same card. Two closely matched fights again IMO.

great call mate and what about chisora topping the bill for a title say (commonwealth/european) and they could have it at barry hearns leyton orient ground in the summer with frank warrens Allegedly channel screening it that way you get 3 promoters working TOGETHER just a thought

I has to be a mega fight to be open air show, cannot remember the last 1 I attended, maybe wembley with Bruno v McCall,

Darcy Delaney wrote:

ThereByTheGrace wrote:

FtmPress wrote:What should be John next move and Matt's like to hear you the fan's thinking on these 2

Get John in with Audley Harrison and put Matt in with Lewison on the same card. Two closely matched fights again IMO.

great call mate and what about chisora topping the bill for a title say (commonwealth/european) and they could have it at barry hearns leyton orient ground in the summer with frank warrens Allegedly channel screening it that way you get 3 promoters working TOGETHER just a thought

Yeah. That's exactly the way boxing works these days.

Wa1nuts wrote:Am confused how people, inlcuding one of the commentators, thought McDermott was in "good shape"?!

The 12 lbs hes put on is all fat, doesnt look to me like he has an ounze of muscle on his whole body, all fat. Just cos he was slimmer than when he fought Price (he was a disgrace in that, over 19st of pure fat), doesnt mean hes in good shape for a professional sportsman.

I dont understand how being overweight can help him, he isnt a bad boxer, but if he lost a good few stone of fat and put some muscle on, surely he could be a fitter and better fighter.

I'm gutted Skelton lost, just didn't look like he had quite enough in him any more. Wasnt as bad as I thought the fight was going to be to be fair I quite enjoyed it.

Not sure what losing fat and gaining a lot of muscle would of done for big John McDermott ? In fact gaining muscle would just use more oxygen than all his fat anyway. Since when did muscle mass or physic become a massive factor for boxing ? The only big muscle bound hevyweight really was Larry Olumbiawo and he was Sh#t so it done nothing for him. Granted Big John would benefit from being at around 16st 10lb - 17st for his mobility and speed but that's it really. Congratulations to him, he's a good honest pro and deserves a bit of a break.

John is clearly a fit man and I know from personal experience that it is possible to be fit and still carry excess timber.

What really puzzles me about his physique is the lack of muscle definition, which makes you wonder what sort of training he does - he's clearly strong in the clinch which suggests he must do some strength work, yet there's no evidence of that in the physique - even press-ups would build some muscle def in the arms.

The scales added over a stone for McDermott's fight with Price. They were fixed and we still don't know who fixed them or why. McDermott's true weight was publically shown a few weeks later in his next fight.

Karl Jade wrote:The scales added over a stone for McDermott's fight with Price. They were fixed and we still don't know who fixed them or why. McDermott's true weight was publically shown a few weeks later in his next fight.

I still don't believe that story.

He looked a lot fatter in the Price fight regardless what the scales said.

I know extra muscle wouldn't necessarily help, but surely helps more than fat for power and sturdiness.

He obviously is fit but I don't understand how with not having any muscle definition at all, doesn't he do any strength and conditioning? I think if he dropped a few stone he would be a better fighter.

You mention that great heavily muscled fighters are very rare, but look at the great heavyweights throughout the years, how many of them were carrying 40% + body fat? Look at the likes of Bruno especially (alright not a great fighter but still won a world title), Lewis, Holyfield etc. They all had muscle definition cos they had muscle from the training, John doesn't seem to have any at all.

I wonder how far he could progress if he was in good shape.

Horse wrote:

Karl Jade wrote:The scales added over a stone for McDermott's fight with Price. They were fixed and we still don't know who fixed them or why. McDermott's true weight was publically shown a few weeks later in his next fight.

I still don't believe that story.

Believe what you want. You're free to believe he lost 2 stones in under 5 weeks, but you should know better.

Karl Jade wrote:Believe what you want. You're free to believe he lost 2 stones in under 5 weeks, but you should know better.

So were the scales rigged for Price as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHi-QEMupJI

No, or I would've said that.

Karl Jade wrote:No, or I would've said that.

Price went on the scales straight after. Why would they be rigged to make McDermott look bad?

As I said, don't know who or why. But he was certainly angry about it.