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columbo wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:Why would Golovkin move up? He holds all the cards if people want to challenge him make them move up or down.

I dunno if he holds all the cards but I see what you're getting at.

Yeah. I mean in as much as he will now (surely) be seen as number one middle weight and surely (?) P4P top 5. If i were in that position my attitude (rightly or wrongly) would be - "you want to beat me, you come and do it on my terms".

Ian1973 wrote:

columbo wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:Why would Golovkin move up? He holds all the cards if people want to challenge him make them move up or down.

I dunno if he holds all the cards but I see what you're getting at.

Yeah. I mean in as much as he will now (surely) be seen as number one middle weight and surely (?) P4P top 5. If i were in that position my attitude (rightly or wrongly) would be - "you want to beat me, you come and do it on my terms".

If you're Ward or Froch even though, I dont know why they'd be like yeah he's the man im gonna go down to 160 lol

I can't imagine they would. Hell, Ward seems to be having trouble even getting his career restarted and Froch is what? 37?

I can't see them wanting to strip off an extra 8 lbs to give GGG an advantage.

Bobbyptsd wrote:I can't imagine they would. Hell, Ward seems to be having trouble even getting his career restarted and Froch is what? 37?

I can't see them wanting to strip off an extra 8 lbs to give GGG an advantage.

Especially when one is the kingpin of his division and the other just contributed in selling 80k tickets.

If you're Ward or Froch even though, I dont know why they'd be like yeah he's the man im gonna go down to 160 lol

I don't either to be honest, I don't think either would be comfortable at 160, so I can't see those fights ever happening. Someone else pointed out Hagler never moving up and it didn't harm is legacy and lets be honest do we really expect Klitscko to move down in weight to enhance his legacy?

In terms of natural body shape people are what they are, some can go through weights usually from a lesser weight as they grow naturally, others are set in what they are.

It doesn't make someone less of a fighter because their natural shape isn't variable.

Ian1973 wrote:

If you're Ward or Froch even though, I dont know why they'd be like yeah he's the man im gonna go down to 160 lol

I don't either to be honest, I don't think either would be comfortable at 160, so I can't see those fights ever happening. Someone else pointed out Hagler never moving up and it didn't harm is legacy and lets be honest do we really expect Klitscko to move down in weight to enhance his legacy?

In terms of natural body shape people are what they are, some can go through weights usually from a lesser weight as they grow naturally, others are set in what they are.

It doesn't make someone less of a fighter because their natural shape isn't variable.

Wlad going down to Cruiser on the anorexic diet lol

columbo wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:

If you're Ward or Froch even though, I dont know why they'd be like yeah he's the man im gonna go down to 160 lol

I don't either to be honest, I don't think either would be comfortable at 160, so I can't see those fights ever happening. Someone else pointed out Hagler never moving up and it didn't harm is legacy and lets be honest do we really expect Klitscko to move down in weight to enhance his legacy?

In terms of natural body shape people are what they are, some can go through weights usually from a lesser weight as they grow naturally, others are set in what they are.

It doesn't make someone less of a fighter because their natural shape isn't variable.

Wlad going down to Cruiser on the anorexic diet lol

Lol. You could chop him in half, he'd probably make the weight then.

I had my doubts but I'll firmly admit it; Golovkin is the real deal. Thought Geale would give him a lot more issues, but you can't just be a good well rounded guy like Geale to trouble Golovkin; you have to be A grade slick or have A grade power with at least B+ skills. No-one around at 160 currently to fit that bill.

dempseyfire wrote:I had my doubts but I'll firmly admit it; Golovkin is the real deal. Thought Geale would give him a lot more issues, but you can't just be a good well rounded guy like Geale to trouble Golovkin; you have to be A grade slick or have A grade power with at least B+ skills. No-one around at 160 currently to fit that bill.

Same here mate.

dempseyfire wrote:you have to be A grade slick or have A grade power with at least B+ skills.

And a very tough chin!