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Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 23:18
by SteveDow
taffytoon wrote:Good contest; Clev should have boxed and moved more; his nose and ear looks painful !!
Clev seemed pretty happy with his display and he should be. I expected that to be less competitive.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 23:19
by skanksta
Fair Decision.
Fonfara hit a little harder and edged workrate, Clev was more accurate, but couldn't sustain his attacks.

Rematch in Wales and w/o broken nose - Clev would be favourite imo, but Fonfara deserved it tonight.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 23:19
by taffytoon
SteveDow wrote:
taffytoon wrote:Good contest; Clev should have boxed and moved more; his nose and ear looks painful !!
Clev seemed pretty happy with his display and he should be. I expected that to be less competitive.
Great scrap that Steve :TU:

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 23:21
by Tangerine
Over 2500 punches thrown between them and nearly a 1000 landed.new LHW record

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 23:25
by SteveDow
taffytoon wrote:
SteveDow wrote:
taffytoon wrote:Good contest; Clev should have boxed and moved more; his nose and ear looks painful !!
Clev seemed pretty happy with his display and he should be. I expected that to be less competitive.
Great scrap that Steve :TU:
Yes mate. Great weekend of sport ahead.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 23:40
by crusader
115-113 Fonfara

Kind of what I expected. Fonfara is good but not much better than Clev.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 00:58
by ShadrachSimmo
Surprised it was a close fight I thought Fonfara would have won handily.

Where now for Clev? Domestic/European level?

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 04:27
by Gazmac81
Just watched it but my sky + stopped in 11th round. Didnt think that happened anymore. Cracking fight though.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 04:30
by Counter-puncher
fvcking hell sounds like it was a really good card

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 04:57
by wesshaw1985
ShadrachSimmo wrote:Surprised it was a close fight I thought Fonfara would have won handily.

Where now for Clev? Domestic/European level?
back to Wales as a co-main to Selby.
Potential opponent -
Bika?
Ajisafe?
Krasniqi?
Campillo?
Dickinson?

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 05:11
by Andrew
wesshaw1985 wrote:
ShadrachSimmo wrote:Surprised it was a close fight I thought Fonfara would have won handily.

Where now for Clev? Domestic/European level?
back to Wales as a co-main to Selby.
Potential opponent -
Bika?
Ajisafe?
Krasniqi?
Campillo?
Dickinson?
Enzo Mac ?

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 05:26
by Boxerbeetle
Gazmac81 wrote:Just watched it but my sky + stopped in 11th round. Didnt think that happened anymore. Cracking fight though.
My recording stopped with 90 seconds of the 12th remaining. Fvck Sky, they should have extended the programme.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 05:29
by handsofstone
Terrific performance from Cleverly i knew he had the heart in him to compete at this level again he just got pipped to the post,115-114 Fonfara on my card,i thought the cards would be wider because of the mess of Nathan's face which could sometimes sway judges,his ear went the same way Mitchell's did against Murray

It was an absolute barnstormer of a fight and both guys gave and took a lot,Cleverly rocked Fonfara's head back countless times with uppercuts but faded understandably down the stretch but was still competitive throughout,Fonfara's better engine won it and he probably conserved his energy better than Nathan

Hopefully Cleverly has regained the respect he lost after the Kovalev and Bellew losses

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 05:46
by samwbr
Boxerbeetle wrote:
Gazmac81 wrote:Just watched it but my sky + stopped in 11th round. Didnt think that happened anymore. Cracking fight though.
My recording stopped with 90 seconds of the 12th remaining. Fvck Sky, they should have extended the programme.
I always set to record the 2 shows following, been burnt before like you were last night.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 06:16
by davie
I actually scored that a draw, i had Clev 5-1 up after 6 then gave him the tenth.

I could understand one or two of those closer early rounds going to fonfara, so no complaints about the scores. And I couldn't make much of an argument for Clev in most of those later rounds.
I think the broken nose probably was the decisive factor

But what a bloody good couple of fights. Cleverly could win that in Wales and I feel he can keep pushing on to fight at that kind of level. The confidence is back and theres no benefit of him dropping a level.
I'd try for a re-run of Fonfara or see if the Braemer option is still there for him.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 06:17
by davie
samwbr wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
Gazmac81 wrote:Just watched it but my sky + stopped in 11th round. Didnt think that happened anymore. Cracking fight though.
My recording stopped with 90 seconds of the 12th remaining. Fvck Sky, they should have extended the programme.
I always set to record the 2 shows following, been burnt before like you were last night.
Quite strange. My Sky+ recorded about 12 minutes after the decision. Got the interview, ads, bellew analysis and the credits.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 06:37
by sammy95
I hope that gives Cleverly a bit more mental confidence. Proven to himself, and others, that he can still compete at world level.

For me, he needs to treat it like any other sportsman, where a loss doesn't matter too much given the circumstance. A footballer coming back from poor form might get benched or subbed off after 60 mins, an athlete might come third or fourth in a few races (look at Ennis before the world champs). Its all about feeling your way back in and getting over the mental block.

Big scrap (in Wales) on a Selby undercard or on a keep busy fight at 5pm on a matchroom / fight pass card next for me.

Well done Clev!

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 07:15
by wesshaw1985
Naandrew wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:
ShadrachSimmo wrote:Surprised it was a close fight I thought Fonfara would have won handily.

Where now for Clev? Domestic/European level?
back to Wales as a co-main to Selby.
Potential opponent -
Bika?
Ajisafe?
Krasniqi?
Campillo?
Dickinson?
Enzo Mac ?
y'all must've forgot, big enzo is chasing Roy Jones jnr...

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 10:30
by taffytoon
He did very well; if it were me I would drop back to British title level; win the Lonsdale outright and then go for Brahmer.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 12:50
by palooka
Counter-puncher wrote:fvcking hell sounds like it was a really good card
2 excellent bouts, they really got stuck in and did their very upmost to win.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 12:59
by JC
Well done to Cleverly, nothing wrong with his heart.

Haymon might be keen Cleverly/Beterbiev now, not sure I'd want to see that.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 14:39
by Boxerbeetle
J-C wrote:Well done to Cleverly, nothing wrong with his heart.

Haymon might be keen Cleverly/Beterbiev now, not sure I'd want to see that.
That would be a nightmare match for Cleverly, Beterbiev would destroy him in a rerun of the Kovalev fight. Clev should be targeting Braehmer imo.

Was delighted to see Cleverly looking more like his former self, although he still doesn't look anywhere near where he was before. I actually think he would have beaten Fonfara relatively comfortably if they'd fought 3 or 4 years ago.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 15:48
by Andrew
Boxerbeetle wrote:
J-C wrote:Well done to Cleverly, nothing wrong with his heart.

Haymon might be keen Cleverly/Beterbiev now, not sure I'd want to see that.
That would be a nightmare match for Cleverly, Beterbiev would destroy him in a rerun of the Kovalev fight. Clev should be targeting Braehmer imo.

Was delighted to see Cleverly looking more like his former self, although he still doesn't look anywhere near where he was before. I actually think he would have beaten Fonfara relatively comfortably if they'd fought 3 or 4 years ago.
I'm not sold on Beterbiev yet however the guy clearly has serious power particularly on the inside. I like Cleverly a lot more after last night but he is made for Beterbiev.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 16:55
by palooka
Naandrew wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
J-C wrote:Well done to Cleverly, nothing wrong with his heart.

Haymon might be keen Cleverly/Beterbiev now, not sure I'd want to see that.
That would be a nightmare match for Cleverly, Beterbiev would destroy him in a rerun of the Kovalev fight. Clev should be targeting Braehmer imo.

Was delighted to see Cleverly looking more like his former self, although he still doesn't look anywhere near where he was before. I actually think he would have beaten Fonfara relatively comfortably if they'd fought 3 or 4 years ago.
I'm not sold on Beterbiev yet however the guy clearly has serious power particularly on the inside. I like Cleverly a lot more after last night but he is made for Beterbiev.
:TU: I agree, Nathan did really well against a strong, rugged fighter in Fonfara but Beterbiev is powerful and ruthless; I'd like Cleverly to box someone without that concussive power - he really does have guts though, to box like that in Chicago takes some doing.

Re: Andrzej Fonfara (c) vs. Nathan Cleverly - October 16th 2015

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 20:17
by Wales
tha will have taken a lot out of him, as game as he was he did take a fair shallacking.

Selbey Warrington in Cardiff with Cleverley against Bika is a great shout