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tobyh5 wrote:

MarkMcBurney wrote:

Teddy's Toupee wrote: Aahaaa!

"Not my words, Magwitch, the words of Boxing Monthly magazine..."

BM was Barry McGuigan, not Boxing Monthly but I was using my phone at the time and could not be arsed writing his name so said "BM".

But I am confused to what you mean anyway. "not my words"?! WTF are you on about fella?

I just said that Barry tries to talk in a way to make himself appear more intelligent than he probably is, often using words that are ill-fitting and often not ones you hear spoken but which are often typed. And in what you quoted, I was explaining that "discombobulate" was just one example.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

tobyh5 wrote:

MarkMcBurney wrote: "Not my words, Magwitch, the words of Boxing Monthly magazine..."

BM was Barry McGuigan, not Boxing Monthly but I was using my phone at the time and could not be arsed writing his name so said "BM".

But I am confused to what you mean anyway. "not my words"?! WTF are you on about fella?

I just said that Barry tries to talk in a way to make himself appear more intelligent than he probably is, often using words that are ill-fitting and often not ones you hear spoken but which are often typed. And in what you quoted, I was explaining that "discombobulate" was just one example.

Definite loss of man-points for not recognising an Alan Partridge quote (sort of)

Goz wrote:

Kilburn wrote:

Goz wrote:
This was my first post on this forum in almost 3 years. I just checked. Amazing really. I used to post here multiple times a day. Met some great people, amazeballs how long it's been around now...

Was reading through this thread without taking notice of profile names as I tend to do, saw this and instinctlvly thought "I bet that's Goz"... Hope you are well buddy.

Never quite took McGuigan seriously after the way he spoke to Nicky Piper during the post fight analysis of Collins v Benn 2. I'd be neutral in tonight's fight were it not for Bazza. The bloke is a cock.

I'm good mate thanks. Hope you are too!

J wrote:

Goz wrote:

Kilburn wrote:
Was reading through this thread without taking notice of profile names as I tend to do, saw this and instinctlvly thought "I bet that's Goz"... Hope you are well buddy.

Never quite took McGuigan seriously after the way he spoke to Nicky Piper during the post fight analysis of Collins v Benn 2. I'd be neutral in tonight's fight were it not for Bazza. The bloke is a cock.

I'm good mate thanks. Hope you are too!

eff me goz kilburn its an online err reunion...hope you are well gents...ever in NL..look me up

Loynesy wrote:J/Goz

Yes, like old times.

Hope you fellas are both well.

Loynesy

stujones wrote:Got an autograph and a hand shake as a Kid at the Hamed vs Robinson fight. He was actually very busy heading back to the Sky studio when I yelled - "Barry" - he came back shook my hand and signed the programme. He then introduced me to Carl Thompson (arm in a sling), who chatted to me for about 5-10 minutes. Where we spoke about his win over Nicky Piper.

Thought it was a great touch of Barry who was clearly busy.

tobyh5 wrote:My old man is Irish so I grew with him being a bit of a hero and remember as a 11 year old being above a boozer my mum worked in watching him beat Pedroza. Then as time went on you could see some really arrogant traits coming out, beginning with how he must throw in words such as "discombobulate" into sentences when commentating as he did on some defunct channel Screensport which merged with Eurosport in about 1994. He would find ways to throw in ill-fitting long words to appear more intelligent than he actually is and still does this today. I was amazed at how awful his boxing knowledge was and the idiotic "insights" he used to give that made no sense or were not even close to reality. First time I realised that the ability to be a great fighter in the ring did not translate to having any bloody clue on how to dissect other fights.

Few years later, about 15 years ago, he was the special guest at a boxing dinner at Royal Naval Air Station Culdrose and I got to meet him as I sponsored a bout. Complete prick. Arrogant twat.

Very good fighter (lucky to face a faded legend) who was exciting and united his people. But as a person, what a tosser as all the Frampton stuff shows.

mickey1975 wrote:The guys who refuse autographs have contracts with memorabilia firms. They're not allowed to sign.

Cholo_cws wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:The guys who refuse autographs have contracts with memorabilia firms. They're not allowed to sign.

Wow. Talk about exploiting every avenue. Pretty cynical.

I agree, Cholo but the other side of it is people asking for autographed items and then selling them on. I imagine the celebrities and sports stars feel they're getting robbed.

stujones wrote:Tobyh5,

Perhaps you know Barry on a personal level and that is fine - but so far all of the "negative" comments about BM have been based on him in a "public" arena - including your anecdote. All of this "how he behaves with Frampton" is all relating to the public arena.

Yes, the charity dinner anecdotes mentioned here is not good form. He isn't the only sports star who has done this and I have heard stories of sports stars still flat out refuse to sign programmes etc when "pressured" at Charity events (Scott Gibbs being one)

What you say is spot on, but so far there is no example of how he privately acts, so how can we tell if he is arrogant etc. Personally, I don't think he uses discombobulate or temerity (my personal fave) for effect, but even if it is - is that arrogance or is that trying to be articulate (and learning new words) for the camera.

Tyson used "big words" regularly at post fight conferences - was he doing this for effect (because he has no education) is it is the way he talks?

Dixonian wrote:
Yeah it's really contemptible that an ex-boxer should attempt to expand his vocabulary in order to better his chances of a broadcasting career.

Real sign of arrogance that...

tobyh5 wrote:

Dixonian wrote:
Yeah it's really contemptible that an ex-boxer should attempt to expand his vocabulary in order to better his chances of a broadcasting career.

Real sign of arrogance that...

No problem with anyone trying to improve themselves, hell I could do with that myself. I am amending to say that how he acts and how he does this lends weight to my own personal negative feels on him.

Judah Ben Fur wrote:

rd350lc wrote:When I was a young lad he was one of my hero's , in his boxing days he seemed humble , respectful and a well thought of person , don't know why he has turned into an arrogant , attention grabbing ar$e ,but it doesn't sit well at all. I think fame has gone to his head .

During his boxing days he seemed v humble ,boyish, charming even.

By the mid 90s to mid 2000s he had quite a rude ruthless persona as a,sky pundit....he would talk over people and act like he was number 1 he was notably disrespectful to gary mason and nicky piper.but it didnt disguise he was fairlyy knowledgable as a,pundit whilst lacking most of the charisma he had as a fighter and his opinion couldnt be influenced i give him credit there.

Like others said i think the tougher exterior developed in reaction to being screwed out of his career wealth so remorselessly

Than the punditry dried up a bit with the rise of steve nunce.
He seemed to become a little more humble on tv.

Now of course he"s been a great advisor to frampton and his son.

I thought his hof induction was very charasmatic he was mcguigan the fighter again.seeing him up there with stallone and the others was very entertaining.

By the way this is a great great thread.so many knowledgable posters with great writing and personal insights

SNG wrote:I always liked Barry, never had an issue with his commentary either, but I didn't like the way he was during the Quigg build up and the way he's been since he became involved with Frampton really. I don't give him poo for him trying to get the best for his man, why wouldn't he, but he's come across very poorly recently.