barry mguigan

[tedley]

I remember him as a respectful , decent person (and i do know him)
What is all this yobbish behavior all about?
Is it just to generate interest in the fight , or is he lowering himself to Framptons standards

[tedley]

Pardon the spelling of McGuigan

[Counter-puncher]

I have always thought he had so much 'invested'- and you can take that in several ways- in Frampton, that his emotional behaviour around Frampton took him to the point of absolute mania. Proper, no self-awareness, no balance, no judgement, mania.

[Mimmy]

Im not keen on Bazza. Many years ago I was interested in working for him when he developed the boxing union movement. He didnt keep his side to the bargain when I contacted him in hope to ge involved with him on this venture. I then saw him many years later in Scarborough with Paul Ingle, maybe in 1999(ish). Then I saw an interview or something cant really remember the facts now but he said something in an interview and contradicted himself in the article. I emailed him with the facts he had said in the interview and article, he blew my head off in his reply. That put a dampner on my estimation of this guy who comes across on tv as a friendly sort of person. One thing ill never forget though is the cheesy name of the company he had 'Barranda' I would think a mix of his name and his mrs, I bet they sat at the dining room table all night thinking that one up.

Good boxer not going to say anything different about that.

[rd350lc]

When I was a young lad he was one of my hero's , in his boxing days he seemed humble , respectful and a well thought of person , don't know why he has turned into an arrogant , attention grabbing ar$e ,but it doesn't sit well at all. I think fame has gone to his head .

[stu 27]

After the Freddie Flintoff thing I lost a lot of respect for him,one minute he is saying he can bang,next minute he is saying he shouldn't fight again
one big advert for his lad

[Goz]

I did work experience at Boxing News in I think 1989 (when did Chavez fight Meldrick Taylor? It was then) and spoke to him on the phone when I answered the call he was making to the editor at the time, Harry Mullan. He was really nice and talked to this starstruck 16 year old for a good while before I put him through.

Just thought I'd put that out there

[Goz]

I did work experience at Boxing News in I think 1989 (when did Chavez fight Meldrick Taylor? It was then) and spoke to him on the phone when I answered the call he was making to the editor at the time, Harry Mullan. He was really nice and talked to this starstruck 16 year old for a good while before I put him through.

Just thought I'd put that out there

This was my first post on this forum in almost 3 years. I just checked. Amazing really. I used to post here multiple times a day. Met some great people, amazeballs how long it's been around now...

[jamesmcdonnell]

I think that probably getting screwed over badly and losing all his money he made from his boxing career, probably caused the seeming change in persona. He got properly done over.

[mickey1975]

I think that probably getting screwed over badly and losing all his money he made from his boxing career, probably caused the seeming change in persona. He got properly done over.

No need to chore all Carl's though...

[Boxingcutsman]

Maybe He's got 2 different personas, the people champion persona, 80's McGuigan, that kicks into play when there's lots of people about or the media are about, all smiles, fist pumps, thumbs up, humble, nice guy with lots of time for people etc, then the real side when no one other than close people are about, a big ego, self important, control freak, nasty person, etc.
And with the pressure on here your seeing that genuine, private side showing just a little bit here, maybe he's let his mask slip a bit,
and not all he's been cracked out to be for all these years ?
I could be wrong, just a theory, looking at it.
Or he could be a great person and It's just he's all fired up, over enthusiastic, full of nervous energy, with so much riding on it for his lad.
Who knows ?

[JimJim2009]

I think that probably getting screwed over badly and losing all his money he made from his boxing career, probably caused the seeming change in persona. He got properly done over.

How did that happen ?

[Rexob]

I think that probably getting screwed over badly and losing all his money he made from his boxing career, probably caused the seeming change in persona. He got properly done over.

How did that happen ?

Expensive court cases with his manager Barney ?

[samwbr]

made a mug of himself at the weigh-in by trying to copy Framptons fingers over the head on Quigg. The lame joke had gone, don't embarrass yourself.

[tobyh5]

My old man is Irish so I grew with him being a bit of a hero and remember as a 11 year old being above a boozer my mum worked in watching him beat Pedroza. Then as time went on you could see some really arrogant traits coming out, beginning with how he must throw in words such as "discombobulate" into sentences when commentating as he did on some defunct channel Screensport which merged with Eurosport in about 1994. He would find ways to throw in ill-fitting long words to appear more intelligent than he actually is and still does this today. I was amazed at how awful his boxing knowledge was and the idiotic "insights" he used to give that made no sense or were not even close to reality. First time I realised that the ability to be a great fighter in the ring did not translate to having any bloody clue on how to dissect other fights.

Few years later, about 15 years ago, he was the special guest at a boxing dinner at Royal Naval Air Station Culdrose and I got to meet him as I sponsored a bout. Complete prick. Arrogant twat.

Very good fighter (lucky to face a faded legend) who was exciting and united his people. But as a person, what a tosser as all the Frampton stuff shows.

[Twinkle Toes]

He is struggling to keep control of his emotions it seems and he has come over as a bit of a loose cannon - He has always been a fan of the green too, hence his falling out with Eastwood (which backfired spectacularly)

[Rexob]

He is struggling to keep control of his emotions it seems and he has come over as a bit of a loose cannon - He has always been a fan of the green too, hence his falling out with Eastwood (which backfired spectacularly)

Really never knew that?

[thepocketrocket]

I spoke to Barry just as a man in civvy street when McCullough was trying to get his licence back with the board. He said Wayne would get it now he was with Warren and was really well mannered and pleasant.

My one and only time meeting him, and it seems others have different opinions, but he was pleasant to an early 20's fan.

[Boxingcutsman]

I think that probably getting screwed over badly and losing all his money he made from his boxing career, probably caused the seeming change in persona. He got properly done over.

How did that happen ?

Expensive court cases with his manager Barney ?

He won that case and Barney had to pay him £1 million, plus all costs

[Rexob]

How did that happen ?

Expensive court cases with his manager Barney ?

He won that case and Barney had to pay him £1 million, plus all costs

What happened then?

[dalcumly]

McGuigan works hard to earn money and is very enthusiastic. I don't believe he has time for ordinary people anymore simply because he believes he's a celebrity, which I suppose he is in a way. I don't know who the 'real' Barry McGuigan is anymore, and worryingly, neither does he!
Eddie Hearn and Matchroom are in a 'win,win' situation tonight. They will make millions out of the promotion, and even if Quigg loses,they still have big names in their camp.If Frampton loses, where does that leave McGuigan? Apparently both boxers are sharing £5 million. That means McGuigan will pocket around £650,000 and his son about £250,000. Good money, but it might have to last a while!
Groves and Haye will not stick around with Shane McGuigan, I think at the moment he's a ' win trick pony'. He might develop into a top trainer in years to come when he's got more experience but he's not there yet.
If I was Barry I would be down on my knees praying to every God under the son that Frampton wins, and I do think he will, but I also think Eddie Hearn firmly believes Quigg is going to do him, and inside the distance.

[coneye]

McGuigan works hard to earn money and is very enthusiastic. I don't believe he has time for ordinary people anymore simply because he believes he's a celebrity, which I suppose he is in a way. I don't know who the 'real' Barry McGuigan is anymore, and worryingly, neither does he!
Eddie Hearn and Matchroom are in a 'win,win' situation tonight. They will make millions out of the promotion, and even if Quigg loses,they still have big names in their camp.If Frampton loses, where does that leave McGuigan? Apparently both boxers are sharing £5 million. That means McGuigan will pocket around £650,000 and his son about £250,000. Good money, but it might have to last a while!
Groves and Haye will not stick around with Shane McGuigan, I think at the moment he's a ' win trick pony'. He might develop into a top trainer in years to come when he's got more experience but he's not there yet.
If I was Barry I would be down on my knees praying to every God under the son that Frampton wins, and I do think he will, but I also think Eddie Hearn firmly believes Quigg is going to do him, and inside the distance.

Good post , and if they do have a rematch , i think you will see Eddie playing hard ball a lot more ,, I doubt very much if they will get there own way has much . . Now Eddie knows what he's dealing with its win win , Scott wins , he's in the box seat the A fighter to use Barrys words , if he loses , Eddie can say , we come to Belfast you get good money for a rematch , or go to America , take less money and probably lose .. Being a prick and a smart ass will bite bARRY ON THE BUM ,, and effectivly damage Carls carreer

[palooka]

He is struggling to keep control of his emotions it seems and he has come over as a bit of a loose cannon - He has always been a fan of the green too, hence his falling out with Eastwood (which backfired spectacularly)

Really never knew that?

money not weed!

[Pugilist-specialist]

How did that happen ?

Expensive court cases with his manager Barney ?

He won that case and Barney had to pay him £1 million, plus all costs

In 1992 Eastwood won in court and was awarded £450,000.

8 years later, Eastwood sued the BBC and McGuigan and won again.

[Rexob]

He is struggling to keep control of his emotions it seems and he has come over as a bit of a loose cannon - He has always been a fan of the green too, hence his falling out with Eastwood (which backfired spectacularly)

Really never knew that?

money not weed!

Gonna say, that could have been the cause of all this behaviour