They wasted their great potential - my top 5 list

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Buster Douglas... Should have trained for more than just one fight... He had to be the laziest and fattest man in Boxing History.

Tyson Fury... Another fat pig... Should have developed a work ethic and found a way to rule his appetite, weight, and emotions.

Tim Witherspoon... Should have had at least 5 more fights before challenging for the Heavyweight Title... He thought he was a finished product...

Luther McCarty... When he showed potential for Boxing he should have quit his work busting wild horses. Too damned dangerous leading to his death...

Ed "Too Tall" Jones... When he couldn't get any more fights he should have changed management, yelled, screamed, and raised Holy Hell.
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gilgamesh wrote:
littlepug wrote:Mike Pérez, Kelly pavlik
Pavlik definitely gave away what could've been many more lucrative paydays by becoming a raging alcoholic off of one loss.

I'm not sure we've seen the last of Mike Perez yet.
Indeed, I'm sure we haven't
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Kalan wrote:Buster Douglas... Should have trained for more than just one fight... He had to be the laziest and fattest man in Boxing History.

Tyson Fury... Another fat pig... Should have developed a work ethic and found a way to rule his appetite, weight, and emotions.

Tim Witherspoon... Should have had at least 5 more fights before challenging for the Heavyweight Title... He thought he was a finished product...

Luther McCarty... When he showed potential for Boxing he should have quit his work busting wild horses. Too damned dangerous leading to his death...

Ed "Too Tall" Jones... When he couldn't get any more fights he should have changed management, yelled, screamed, and raised Holy Hell.
You are right about Tim. To me, he lost that Snipes fight.
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Tim beat Snipes and he was a lot better for Holmes... But he peaked in his 16th fight for Holmes... That's a freakin' waste if there ever was one.
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I liked Witherspoon. One of the best heavies of his period. His story of getting screwed by the dirty men of boxing is a sad one
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ValMar wrote:1. Solis
2. Helenius
3. Gamboa
4. Chavez Jr.
5. M. Garcia

Remark : I hope M. Garcia will be back. I doubt this for the rest.
Cant believe you even had him on your list. If it's Mikey Garcia you're talking about he already won a world title with an overpowering KO of unbeaten Zlaticanin and he's only 29 and unbeaten. How is that not being back? :roll:

All the other guys you mention failed in the RING, which is definitely not the case with Garcia.

One potential great who DID waste his talent was Riddick Bowe, who always got way out of shape between fights and then drain himself getting back in fighting shape. Undisciplined lazy slacker!!
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Best Coast wrote:
ValMar wrote:1. Solis
2. Helenius
3. Gamboa
4. Chavez Jr.
5. M. Garcia

Remark : I hope M. Garcia will be back. I doubt this for the rest.
Cant believe you even had him on your list. If it's Mikey Garcia you're talking about he already won a world title with an overpowering KO of unbeaten Zlaticanin and he's only 29 and unbeaten. How is that not being back? :roll:

All the other guys you mention failed in the RING, which is definitely not the case with Garcia.

One potential great who DID waste his talent was Riddick Bowe, who always got way out of shape between fights and then drain himself getting back in fighting shape. Undisciplined lazy slacker!!
Best Coast, this thread has been opened on November 2016...It has been a little bit different situation concerning M. Garcia....He has not been very active last year.....
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Kalan wrote:Tim beat Snipes and he was a lot better for Holmes... But he peaked in his 16th fight for Holmes... That's a freakin' waste if there ever was one.
Don't know, it was close, but always felt Renaldo did enough to edge Tim. Even though I don't think he takes peak Dokes, if they had him fighting Dokes or Coetzee in 1983, he definitely was taking those guys. Definitely a waste of talent, though it's not all on him. But Don King was a mutha to deal with, as we all know.
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prince nassem hamed

fancesco boyado

edwin valero

salvador sanchez

gerald mcclellan
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Jip wrote:prince nassem hamed

fancesco boyado

edwin valero

salvador sanchez

gerald mcclellan
McClellan does not belong here, definitely.
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Post by HyacinthusTurnipseed »

Gamboa is one I'm not sure about - a talented fighter for sure but one that'd most always lose to the first truly elite opponent he faced IMO. If it hadn't been Crawford it would have been one of Rigo, Loma or Garcia.

Add to the list of guys who had great careers but could have done so much more: James Toney?
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Jip wrote:
salvador sanchez
WTF? Maybe the most accomplished 23 year old in Boxing history.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Jip wrote:
salvador sanchez
WTF? Maybe the most accomplished 23 year old in Boxing history.
Saad consider the source.

But I think he was saying what if he didn't die and eod of continued his winning ways. I don't see how anyone could not consider Sanchez an all time great.
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1 Bernard 'Superbad' Mays

2 Tony Ayala Jr

3 Kirkland Laing

4 Benny Lynch

5 Rickey Womack
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Davey Hilton

The biggest fight of his career didnt come until he was 37 and about 20 pounds above the weight he campaigned at in his 20s. He still managed to win and capture a world title.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Jip wrote:
salvador sanchez
WTF? Maybe the most accomplished 23 year old in Boxing history.
I didn't think of him for that reason. But on reflection I agree.

If Salvador Sanchez wasn't speeding recklessly that morning to get back to camp before his coach awoke -- in fact if he drove as cautiously as he boxed -- he would have had another 12 to 15 years as a pro boxer. Since he was such a perfectionist he might have become the greatest master-boxer of all time.
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tiny_acres wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Jip wrote:
salvador sanchez
WTF? Maybe the most accomplished 23 year old in Boxing history.
Saad consider the source.

But I think he was saying what if he didn't die and eod of continued his winning ways. I don't see how anyone could not consider Sanchez an all time great.
Still really stupid, it wasn't suicide.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
WTF? Maybe the most accomplished 23 year old in Boxing history.
Saad consider the source.

But I think he was saying what if he didn't die and eod of continued his winning ways. I don't see how anyone could not consider Sanchez an all time great.
Still really stupid, it wasn't suicide.
I agree Sanchez has no business being on this list.
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tiny_acres wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:
Saad consider the source.

But I think he was saying what if he didn't die and eod of continued his winning ways. I don't see how anyone could not consider Sanchez an all time great.
Still really stupid, it wasn't suicide.
I agree Sanchez has no business being on this list.
Neither should hamed or McClellan. I wouldn't list Valero because he wasn't very good, but bojado fits the bill. 1 or 2 out of 5 is pretty solid work for jip.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Still really stupid, it wasn't suicide.
I agree Sanchez has no business being on this list.
Neither should hamed or McClellan. I wouldn't list Valero because he wasn't very good, but bojado fits the bill. 1 or 2 out of 5 is pretty solid work for jip.
Saad, excuse me, do you know Jip ? I mean - personally.....
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ValMar wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:
I agree Sanchez has no business being on this list.
Neither should hamed or McClellan. I wouldn't list Valero because he wasn't very good, but bojado fits the bill. 1 or 2 out of 5 is pretty solid work for jip.
Saad, excuse me, do you know Jip ? I mean - personally.....
No, why?
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
ValMar wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Neither should hamed or McClellan. I wouldn't list Valero because he wasn't very good, but bojado fits the bill. 1 or 2 out of 5 is pretty solid work for jip.
Saad, excuse me, do you know Jip ? I mean - personally.....
No, why?
You and Jip are always (or almost always) on the opposite sides, as I can conclude.......
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ValMar wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
ValMar wrote:
Saad, excuse me, do you know Jip ? I mean - personally.....
No, why?
You and Jip are always (or almost always) on the opposite sides, as I can conclude.......
He doesn't know what he's talking about, yet calls himself an expert. He deserves the corrections, seems a nice enough kid though.
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