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Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *NOW OPEN*

Posted: 31 Jan 2017, 15:42
by Give up
Duran over Leonard is laughable. Not subjective, not debatable, just a joke. :clap:

Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *NOW OPEN*

Posted: 31 Jan 2017, 22:21
by Crease
I'll count up all the remaining votes later today.

Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *VOTE CLOSED*

Posted: 03 Feb 2017, 10:59
by Seamus
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Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *NOW OPEN*

Posted: 04 Feb 2017, 08:07
by Crease
Give up wrote:Duran over Leonard is laughable. Not subjective, not debatable, just a joke.
I take it you have already counted it up, sir.
;-)

Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *VOTE CLOSED*

Posted: 04 Feb 2017, 08:15
by Crease
Crease wrote:FINAL Scoreboard: (18 Members have voted)

1st - 157 pts Roberto Duran
2nd - 156 pts Benny Leonard
3rd - 124 pts Joe Gans
4th - 84 pts Henry Armstrong
5th - 74 pts Carlos Ortiz
6th - 72 pts Pernell Whitaker
7th - 70 pts Ike Williams
8th - 69 pts Tony Canzoneri
9th - 29 pts Barney Ross
10th - 26 pts Lou Ambers

11th - 21 pts Joe Brown
12th - 20 pts Packey McFarland
13th - 16 pts Julio Cesar Chavez
14th - 12 pts Manny Pacquaio
15th - 11 pts Freddie Welsh
16th - 9 pts Shane Mosley
17th - 8 pts Edwin Valero
18th - 7 pts Esteban DeJesus
Tied 19th - 5 pts Juan Manuel Marquez
Tied 19th - 5 pts Alexis Arguello
Tied 21st - 4 pts Ken Buchanan
Tied 21st - 4 pts Battling Nelson
23rd - 3 pts Sammy Mandell
24th - 2 pts Edwin Rosario
Tied 25th - 1 pts Ismael Laguna
Tied 25th - 1 pts Rocky Kansas
Roberto Duran is voted our Greatest Ever Lightweight!!! (but only just)

GAME CLOSED!!!

Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *VOTE CLOSED*

Posted: 04 Feb 2017, 08:21
by Crease
And looking at our final total, it's clear that this is clear why EVERY single vote is important because it all adds to the final outcome.

And just as in the Light Heavyweight game, Archie Moore defeated Ezzard Charles by a single point -
Roberto Duran has achieved the ultimate comeback and piped Benny Leonard to the top spot.

Anyway our top three were miles ahead of everyone else (I'm a wee bit surprised that Homicide Hank wasn't higher, but 4th is a very healthy position to finish in)

Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *VOTE CLOSED*

Posted: 04 Feb 2017, 08:34
by Crease
Overview:

Roberto Duran was voted Number One 9 times.
Benny Leonard was voted Number One 6 times.
Henry Armstrong was voted Number One 2 times.
Joe Gans was voted Number One 1 time.

A bit of a scattered bunch there, but at least 15 out of our 18 selected Roberto or Benny has our top man.

Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *VOTE CLOSED*

Posted: 04 Feb 2017, 08:40
by Tomasino
Crease wrote:Overview:

Roberto Duran was voted Number One 9 times.
Benny Leonard was voted Number One 6 times.
Henry Armstrong was voted Number One 2 times.
Joe Gans was voted Number One 1 time.

A bit of a scattered bunch there, but at least 15 out of our 18 selected Roberto or Benny has our top man.

Joe Gans was robbed! :OhYes: :TU:

Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *VOTE CLOSED*

Posted: 04 Feb 2017, 08:43
by Crease
Tomasino wrote:Joe Gans was robbed!
:lol:

I'm sure with that comment, people may work out who give Joe his 10 pts.

Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *VOTE CLOSED*

Posted: 04 Feb 2017, 09:33
by Seamus
What happened to the half points ?

Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *VOTE CLOSED*

Posted: 04 Feb 2017, 09:38
by Crease
Seamus wrote:What happened to the half points ?
Keko reposted his list, separating Duran and Gans
Keko wrote:here let it be like this and since today is the last day

1.Benny Leonard
2.Joe Gans,
3.Roberto Duran
4.Pernell Whitaker
5.Carlos Ortiz
6.Tony Canzoneri
7.Ike Williams
8.Henry Armstrong
9.Joe Brown
10.Lou Ambers
He also PM'd me to say that he's sorted it. His second list is identical to his 1st, except he's put Gans at 2 and Duran at 3.

Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *VOTE CLOSED*

Posted: 04 Feb 2017, 10:13
by Keko
Crease wrote:
Seamus wrote:What happened to the half points ?
Keko reposted his list, separating Duran and Gans
Keko wrote:here let it be like this and since today is the last day

1.Benny Leonard
2.Joe Gans,
3.Roberto Duran
4.Pernell Whitaker
5.Carlos Ortiz
6.Tony Canzoneri
7.Ike Williams
8.Henry Armstrong
9.Joe Brown
10.Lou Ambers
He also PM'd me to say that he's sorted it. His second list is identical to his 1st, except he's put Gans at 2 and Duran at 3.

Yes ok.Thnx.

Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *VOTE CLOSED*

Posted: 04 Feb 2017, 16:01
by elmersalsa
Ike Williams and Joe Brown, two of the top 5 greatest lightweight boxers inay my book, didn't get enough respect. To me, at lightweight, they were better than the great Henry Armstrong by far.

Pound per pound, Armstrong was way better and possibly the greatest pound per pound boxer ever. But, in no way in my view he was a top 5 lightweight.

In my view, Williams and Old Bones, are top 50 and 100 pound per pound best respectively. Deservedly so in my view because of the body of work they did in their boxing careers. They didn't get enough respect in boxrec.com forum at all.

Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *VOTE CLOSED*

Posted: 04 Feb 2017, 16:04
by elmersalsa
Crease wrote:
Crease wrote:FINAL Scoreboard: (18 Members have voted)

1st - 157 pts Roberto Duran
2nd - 156 pts Benny Leonard
3rd - 124 pts Joe Gans
4th - 84 pts Henry Armstrong
5th - 74 pts Carlos Ortiz
6th - 72 pts Pernell Whitaker
7th - 70 pts Ike Williams
8th - 69 pts Tony Canzoneri
9th - 29 pts Barney Ross
10th - 26 pts Lou Ambers

11th - 21 pts Joe Brown
12th - 20 pts Packey McFarland
13th - 16 pts Julio Cesar Chavez
14th - 12 pts Manny Pacquaio
15th - 11 pts Freddie Welsh
16th - 9 pts Shane Mosley
17th - 8 pts Edwin Valero
18th - 7 pts Esteban DeJesus
Tied 19th - 5 pts Juan Manuel Marquez
Tied 19th - 5 pts Alexis Arguello
Tied 21st - 4 pts Ken Buchanan
Tied 21st - 4 pts Battling Nelson
23rd - 3 pts Sammy Mandell
24th - 2 pts Edwin Rosario
Tied 25th - 1 pts Ismael Laguna
Tied 25th - 1 pts Rocky Kansas
Roberto Duran is voted our Greatest Ever Lightweight!!! (but only just)

GAME CLOSED!!!
Justice is served at the #1 spot. At the #2 spot, should be the great Joe Gans. I hope justice prevails tomorrow in the Super Bowl and the Atlanta Falcons win their first NFL world championship.

Re: The LIGHTWEIGHT game: *VOTE CLOSED*

Posted: 04 Feb 2017, 17:23
by Keko
It is interesting to Beau Jack and Bob Montgomery did not get any points, I remember that the Ring had them in the top 10.

Leonard for me the first name but I expect that Duran has more points, he was also an excellent champion and is very popular.