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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:What if they're all close? Ward/kovalev 9 on ppv? Lol

world ranked wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:What if they're all close? Ward/kovalev 9 on ppv? Lol

Your speaking hypothetical. We have rematches and they always lead to one guy being the better of the two. Speak in reality. Imagine how many good fights if good fights where rematched.

world ranked wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

world ranked wrote:
Yeah and most probably needed a rematch.

I don't understand why that's funny. You can make a case any recent close fights need or should have rematch.

Enlightened-One wrote:

crow wrote:Gennady can make 3 times his Jacobs purse vs Eubank Jr.

No, just no! That is a preposterous claim!

And didn't all of the extreme hardcore GGG fans persistently claim that Golovkin chases legacy over money, which is the reason why he insists on remaining in his 160lbs comfort zone, despite his team claiming that no man from 154lbs to 175lbs is capable of beating him?

Tanzio wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

I don't understand why that's funny. You can make a case any recent close fights need or should have rematch.

It is hilarious. FMJ v Maidana was a pointless waste of time with the exception of Marcos getting a second excellent payday and FMJ acquiring another very low risk W.

"Some people" think that Danny defeated Once Upon A Time. Some think Ruiz defeated Parker.

Nearly every decision would lead to a rematch if your plan was implemented. Pretty much everyone would be fighting the same opponent for years until someone Planquiaoed their opponent.

It is just not realistic and it would ruin boxing. You might as well eliminate decisions for every fight not ending in a stoppage is rematched.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Gatti/Ward was pretty pointless after the first one. No drama that remotely matched the first. That's what you're ignoring, rematches are rarely half as good as the first encounter. You say we're exaggerating when you said there should be a rematch in every fight without a consensus winner. I'd certainly watch GGG/Jacobs 2, but I won't lose sleep if it doesn't happen. They box so infrequently I'd prefer rematches build. I'd love to see Ward/Beterbiev & Kovalev/Gvodoz(no idea how to spell his name) than their immediate rematch.

world ranked wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Gatti/Ward was pretty pointless after the first one. No drama that remotely matched the first. That's what you're ignoring, rematches are rarely half as good as the first encounter. You say we're exaggerating when you said there should be a rematch in every fight without a consensus winner. I'd certainly watch GGG/Jacobs 2, but I won't lose sleep if it doesn't happen. They box so infrequently I'd prefer rematches build. I'd love to see Ward/Beterbiev & Kovalev/Gvodoz(no idea how to spell his name) than their immediate rematch.

The point is you'd love to see those fights right. But the business side tells you they not happening. Stop dreaming and hoping. You wanted Stevenson-Kovalev or Stevenson-Ward or GGG-Canelo see how those working out. Be realistic Ward-Gatti 2 was meaningless I know you, me and everyone wanted to see the rematch because entertaining and competive. What a concept right?

world ranked wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Fight was closer than Floyd/Maidana 1 ...
The bias the general fan has in boxing is similar to hometown fans rooting for their team.
In a judging sport, that's a bad thing.

No fan on earth is completely unbiased

This post reads like floyd bias, ggg anti bias

I've heard hardly any momentum for a rematch between ggg vs Jacobs

The thing with mayweather is everything's hyped for money. The situation vs Madiana was hyped for the rematch. As the last poster says, both were close fights with the right results

Biases don't mean you can't be partial.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Gvodoz(no idea how to spell his name)

crow wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

crow wrote:Gennady can make 3 times his Jacobs purse vs Eubank Jr.

No, just no! That is a preposterous claim!

And didn't all of the extreme hardcore GGG fans persistently claim that Golovkin chases legacy over money, which is the reason why he insists on remaining in his 160lbs comfort zone, despite his team claiming that no man from 154lbs to 175lbs is capable of beating him?

An Eubank jr vs GGG title fight at 160 in UK would do the same or more than vs Brook.
They go crazy with their fighters over there.

Tanzio wrote:

lazboy wrote:I will never understand why people say Maidana beat Mayweather. He hardly landed clean on him at all, aside from a few body shots early on. It was nice showcase of defensive skill inside the pocket, less running, true grit in there. Then he completely took over after 6. Completly dominated Maidana from then on after Maidana started fatiguing. There was a monumental shift in momementum towards Mayweather, he landed the cleaner harder shots down the stretch and really the whole fight. He beat maidana way better than he did in the second fight where he boxed him. Crap fight the second one, worse still was May Pac and then Berto was the worst. Still, he's one of my favourites. Just was passionless after the Canelo fight/maidana 1 it seems.

The simple answer is so FMJ could get away with rematching a popular fighter who was no real threat to him.

Ossyrules wrote:I've heard hardly any momentum for a rematch between ggg vs Jacobs

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:I've heard hardly any momentum for a rematch between ggg vs Jacobs

The regular fight fan is scared GGG would get beat and ruin their dream match.
It's crazy how belts become meaningful when they allow a fighter to duck a bigger challenge.

BJS is just another KO.

Ossyrules wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:I've heard hardly any momentum for a rematch between ggg vs Jacobs

The regular fight fan is scared GGG would get beat and ruin their dream match.
It's crazy how belts become meaningful when they allow a fighter to duck a bigger challenge.

BJS is just another KO.

You're saying that there's no noise for a rematch as the boxing world are scared GGG would get beat?

Nonsense

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Smart move they lost the last time he might as well go to the biggest bidder

boxing_rocks wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Smart move they lost the last time he might as well go to the biggest bidder

Only in your inflamed imagination.

Ossyrules wrote:You're saying that there's no noise for a rematch as the boxing world are scared GGG would get beat?

Nonsense

crusader wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Smart move they lost the last time he might as well go to the biggest bidder

Only in your inflamed imagination.

Clive is right, Danny did get dropped, hurt, outlanded, and unanimously beaten last time, with his 7 year KO streak being snapped.

No shame in losing to the better man, especially when it's GGG. I'd like to see Danny in with Lemieux or Charlo soon, although DL is a Golden Boy guy.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:You're saying that there's no noise for a rematch as the boxing world are scared GGG would get beat?

Nonsense

The "boxing world" has decided that GGG/Canelo is a necessary fight.
The boxing world is willing to ignore GGG's first questionable win. Why?
Many people had the fight even going into the 12th.

That's not worthy of a rematch instead of a BJS knockout?

Ossyrules wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:You're saying that there's no noise for a rematch as the boxing world are scared GGG would get beat?

Nonsense

The "boxing world" has decided that GGG/Canelo is a necessary fight.
The boxing world is willing to ignore GGG's first questionable win. Why?
Many people had the fight even going into the 12th.

That's not worthy of a rematch instead of a BJS knockout?

Ggg vs Canelo is the biggest fight. Money and boxing

Nobodies ignoring Ggg vs Jacobs as Jacobs has got heap of credit. It was close win, but the win weren't questionable for most

Saunders has the last piece of the puzzle, so yes making history is bigger than Jacobs

Accept it

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: Many people had the fight even going into the 12th.

boxing_rocks wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: Many people had the fight even going into the 12th.

How many times did you count yourself?