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boxing_rocks wrote:You don't know that the informal ringside interview was their obligation.

Several journalists are making this claim, but I guess this will be confirmed in due course, since the story was only published about six hours ago

verlichte wrote:

ElJefe wrote:

verlichte wrote: Your opinion is wide of the mark.

I have already posted two articles in this thread about this matter - you really need to read them. There's no point in surmising, since you can educate yourself on what actually transpired.

I didn't express an opinion so it's not wide of the mark at all. What we seem to have is the word of "a source" against the words of Main Events and several boxing journalists. I'm not saying one is definitely right and one is definitely wrong, but don't act like you've proven anything.

I have proven that there are two sides to every story. I have also proven multiple times that Kathy Duva makes hypocritical and incorrect claims.

Kovalev and Ward have both failed to fulfil their obligations to HBO, but only one of them is publicly criticised for this.

Your decision to believe one set of journalists, whilst dismissing the claims of others, simply illustrates a point I previously laboured over in this thread.

I didn't deny that there are two sides to every story. Look at my post before I quoted you. And I didn't say I believed one set of journalists over another. I clearly just said that I'm not saying that one side is definitely right/wrong, so I haven't dismissed anything. Good day to you.

verlichte wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:You don't know that the informal ringside interview was their obligation.

Several journalists are making this claim, but I guess this will be confirmed in due course, since the story was only published about six hours ago

Yes, they picked their side and repeating what it says.

ward is closing fast on ginger chick regards the #1 joke in this sport ! embaressing those guys are.

What happens if Ward defeats Kovalev soundly and there's no controversy at the end. Then we are going to be stuck with this guy as #1 P4P fighter for a long time. Ward seems very confident with this fight and the fact that he scheduled it so soon really surprised me. I'm a Kovalev fan but if i'm dropping money on this fight then it's going in Ward's direction. I think that he really figured something out in the latter rounds of that fight.

verlichte wrote:"What No One Is Asking" (Source: Boxing.com)

On Sunday, Main Events (Sergey Kovalev’s promoter) published a tweet wherein they blatantly labeled Andre Ward a “coward,” while also accusing that he left Las Vegas early purely to “avoid Kovalev.”

This sort of hateful and obnoxious behavior is nothing new from the promoter or their star fighter, and as usual, their social media activity spurred some to immediately jump on the bandwagon and add their voices to Main Events, believing that Ward indeed must have bailed on the taping of HBO’s “Face Off with Max Kellerman.”

However, no one has questioned one very important thing. During the HBO pay-per-view broadcast of the Canelo vs. Chavez Jr. fight on Saturday evening at T-Mobile Arena, Andre Ward spoke with Jim Lampley about the upcoming fight with Kovalev in an interview that was supposed to feature both boxers.

Where was Sergey Kovalev during that broadcast interview? Kovalev had the chance to talk to Ward face-to-face and call him a “coward” there, live, on television for the world to see. Yet he demurred and didn’t show at all. It’s reminiscent of Kovalev’s behavior previously—he has made some outright racist and hateful remarks on social media, yet when face-to-face with Ward in person at the press tour last month, he said nothing.

The bottom line is that one has to wonder if perhaps the reason the filming of “Face Off with Max Kellerman” didn’t occur on Sunday was because Kovalev didn’t show up for the live broadcast interview the evening before.

After all, most people who have been stood up once aren’t liable to wait around to see if it happens again.

This was an interesting article… and if it’s factually-correct, it seems that Kovalev received a “free pass” from fight fans for failing to fulfil an obligation to HBO, which was before the “Face Off with Max Kellerman” interview.

Therefore, it seems that fight fans have applied double-standards. Since Ward and Kovalev have both committed the very same proverbial “crime”, yet one man is praised, whilst the other is abused and heavily-criticised.

"ANDRE WARD SETS RECORD STRAIGHT ON SKIPPING "FACE OFF" TAPING; SAYS KOVALEV MISSED INTERVIEW FIRST"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqeAS_orc_A

So it's been confirmed that Andre Ward got stood-up by Team Kovalev when they failed to attend a promotional interview for HBO, but somehow the majority of fight fans place the blame solely on the SOG’s shoulders for Sergey deciding to behave unprofessionally by not fulfilling his contractual obligations… how does that happen?

If you get stood-up once, do you really wait around the very next day to give them a second chance to do the same thing again to you?

Thoughts?

Enlightened-One wrote:

verlichte wrote:"What No One Is Asking" (Source: Boxing.com)

On Sunday, Main Events (Sergey Kovalev’s promoter) published a tweet wherein they blatantly labeled Andre Ward a “coward,” while also accusing that he left Las Vegas early purely to “avoid Kovalev.”

This sort of hateful and obnoxious behavior is nothing new from the promoter or their star fighter, and as usual, their social media activity spurred some to immediately jump on the bandwagon and add their voices to Main Events, believing that Ward indeed must have bailed on the taping of HBO’s “Face Off with Max Kellerman.”

However, no one has questioned one very important thing. During the HBO pay-per-view broadcast of the Canelo vs. Chavez Jr. fight on Saturday evening at T-Mobile Arena, Andre Ward spoke with Jim Lampley about the upcoming fight with Kovalev in an interview that was supposed to feature both boxers.

Where was Sergey Kovalev during that broadcast interview? Kovalev had the chance to talk to Ward face-to-face and call him a “coward” there, live, on television for the world to see. Yet he demurred and didn’t show at all. It’s reminiscent of Kovalev’s behavior previously—he has made some outright racist and hateful remarks on social media, yet when face-to-face with Ward in person at the press tour last month, he said nothing.

The bottom line is that one has to wonder if perhaps the reason the filming of “Face Off with Max Kellerman” didn’t occur on Sunday was because Kovalev didn’t show up for the live broadcast interview the evening before.

After all, most people who have been stood up once aren’t liable to wait around to see if it happens again.

This was an interesting article… and if it’s factually-correct, it seems that Kovalev received a “free pass” from fight fans for failing to fulfil an obligation to HBO, which was before the “Face Off with Max Kellerman” interview.

Therefore, it seems that fight fans have applied double-standards. Since Ward and Kovalev have both committed the very same proverbial “crime”, yet one man is praised, whilst the other is abused and heavily-criticised.

"ANDRE WARD SETS RECORD STRAIGHT ON SKIPPING "FACE OFF" TAPING; SAYS KOVALEV MISSED INTERVIEW FIRST"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqeAS_orc_A

So it's been confirmed that Andre Ward got stood-up by Team Kovalev when they failed to attend a promotional interview for HBO, but somehow the majority of fight fans place the blame solely on the SOG’s shoulders for Sergey deciding to behave unprofessionally by not fulfilling his contractual obligations… how does that happen?

If you get stood-up once, do you really wait around the very next day to give them a second chance to do the same thing again to you?

Thoughts?

Thoughts? Here are my thoughts......I'm not sure if this is funny or pathetic. EO responding to himself (Verlichte). I will go with the latter. You should start your own forum, make up screen names and just argue with or agree with yourself.

Badhusker wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

verlichte wrote:"What No One Is Asking" (Source: Boxing.com)

On Sunday, Main Events (Sergey Kovalev’s promoter) published a tweet wherein they blatantly labeled Andre Ward a “coward,” while also accusing that he left Las Vegas early purely to “avoid Kovalev.”

This sort of hateful and obnoxious behavior is nothing new from the promoter or their star fighter, and as usual, their social media activity spurred some to immediately jump on the bandwagon and add their voices to Main Events, believing that Ward indeed must have bailed on the taping of HBO’s “Face Off with Max Kellerman.”

However, no one has questioned one very important thing. During the HBO pay-per-view broadcast of the Canelo vs. Chavez Jr. fight on Saturday evening at T-Mobile Arena, Andre Ward spoke with Jim Lampley about the upcoming fight with Kovalev in an interview that was supposed to feature both boxers.

Where was Sergey Kovalev during that broadcast interview? Kovalev had the chance to talk to Ward face-to-face and call him a “coward” there, live, on television for the world to see. Yet he demurred and didn’t show at all. It’s reminiscent of Kovalev’s behavior previously—he has made some outright racist and hateful remarks on social media, yet when face-to-face with Ward in person at the press tour last month, he said nothing.

The bottom line is that one has to wonder if perhaps the reason the filming of “Face Off with Max Kellerman” didn’t occur on Sunday was because Kovalev didn’t show up for the live broadcast interview the evening before.

After all, most people who have been stood up once aren’t liable to wait around to see if it happens again.

This was an interesting article… and if it’s factually-correct, it seems that Kovalev received a “free pass” from fight fans for failing to fulfil an obligation to HBO, which was before the “Face Off with Max Kellerman” interview.

Therefore, it seems that fight fans have applied double-standards. Since Ward and Kovalev have both committed the very same proverbial “crime”, yet one man is praised, whilst the other is abused and heavily-criticised.

"ANDRE WARD SETS RECORD STRAIGHT ON SKIPPING "FACE OFF" TAPING; SAYS KOVALEV MISSED INTERVIEW FIRST"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqeAS_orc_A

So it's been confirmed that Andre Ward got stood-up by Team Kovalev when they failed to attend a promotional interview for HBO, but somehow the majority of fight fans place the blame solely on the SOG’s shoulders for Sergey deciding to behave unprofessionally by not fulfilling his contractual obligations… how does that happen?

If you get stood-up once, do you really wait around the very next day to give them a second chance to do the same thing again to you?

Thoughts?

Thoughts? Here are my thoughts......I'm not sure if this is funny or pathetic. EO responding to himself (Verlichte). I will go with the latter. You should start your own forum, make up screen names and just argue with or agree with yourself.

At least you've conceded that Kovalev behaved unprofessionally.

"ROC NATION PRESIDENT REVEALS KOVALEV, NOT WARD, WAS NO-SHOW; SURPRISED BY MAIN EVENTS COMMENTS"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_jHiuxMlN0

The claims articulated by several reputable media sources, Team Ward and Roc Nation have been circulating the web for almost four weeks now, but no one from Main Events or from Team Kovalev have refuted these claims, despite Sergey's representatives being the original party to lambast the SOG for his alleged perceived lack of professionalism (as per this thread title).

Has this information "muzzled" Kovalev's die-hard extreme fans that gleefully criticised Andre Ward in this thread, since it seems that they have acted unreasonably?

Hypocrisy? Thoughts?

Thoughts?

My thought is, this is like watching a special-needs robot sucking its own cock.