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ldlamb wrote:I had it a draw.

crusader wrote:Moderately bad robbery IMO

jerichos scarf wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

jerichos scarf wrote:
I like you Mr. Kalan!

He is p4p #1, which is precisely what pisses you both off.

I don't value your opinion. Don't be offended, but I think you are very stupid! No offense!

p4p1 wrote:What worries me, is what exactly is the training these judges are receiving? They seem to think it enables them to judge a fight better than trainers and fighters.

p4p1 wrote:What worries me, is what exactly is the training these judges are receiving? They seem to think it enables them to judge a fight better than trainers and fighters. Someone I know is now a world championship level judge and he scored the fight 6-6 and I've disagreed with his scoring the more experience he has had as a judge.

I remember CJ Ross arguing against the critisism by saying the people criticising her and hadn't received the level of training that she has. But judging is generally not hard, the good guys in the press seem to get it right more often than the judges as do fighters and trainers who don't let their own bias get in the way. So what exactly is this training teaching them? Because it's not teaching them to pick up on things that fighters and trainers would've missed during the fight. After all most judges are just super fans who get paid to watch their fights and input their (sadly wrong too often) opinion. Why is it that the 'experts' so often get it wrong? It has to come down training.

Canelo did fight well, but he didn't fight enough and his defence wasn't good enough to get away with the style he tried to employ. GGG outlanded him, took centre ring, controlled, dictated and forced the fight. Canelos power shots looked good but they had the same amount of effect as one of GGGs jabs which consistently snapped his head back. It's hard to be a boxing fan at times like this, the officials are either corrupt, incompetent or both. We are told by the media they went to war but Canelo save for some spurts spent the whole time on the back foot defending. It was a good fight but it wasn't a war and it wasn't a war because Canelo often refused to engage.

It seems as if now the only way to win a decision is to stay on the back foot, throw some flashy punches and it doesn't matter if your opponent is out throwing and landing you. Offensive boxing is treated as second class, GGG was very defensively sound on the front foot tonight but somewhere along the way people forgot that it's possible to be a great boxer, be defensively sound and still be aggressive. It seems anyone who is aggressive is now called a slugger despite how high level their skill may be.

When you have almost every trainer and fighter coming out and saying GGG was robbed and deserved the decision but judges are scoring it a draw or for Canelo, something is clearly wrong with their training. Judges do not and will never know more about boxing than the trainers and fighters and the fact they often seem to disagree with them says to me their training and how they score the fight needs to be looked at.

jezzamundo wrote:I think a draw is the closest you can have it without being very biased or incompetent.

I saw 6 clear rounds to GGG, 3 clear rounds to Canelo and 3 swing rounds that could go either way, though I had it 8-4 or 116-112 to GGG.

barry wrote:I haven't watched the fight yet, but I will on HBO next weekend. If I think the scoring was as bad as Kovalev-Ward 1, then I am done with boxing! I'll still research the history of the sport, but until these piss-poor judges are held accountable and banned from judging what's the point!

Badhusker wrote:The 118-110 score in this fight = the 114-114 score in the Floyd\Canelo fight. Both equally bad for boxing.