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Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 10 Oct 2018, 14:30
by Ruthless-RKO
MrJasonM wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 13:53
It's odd that there has been no official comment.
No tweets from BJS, no comment from Hearn or official statement from DAZN or Matchroom. Nothing from allegedly.
Very odd. Almost a bit too quiet.
They probably want full 100% confirmation about the Walter dude.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 10 Oct 2018, 15:53
by tobyh5
Anyone know what brand this nasal spray was? Not seen that mentioned yet, just that he took an unspecified one. I could do with shedding some weight myself..
Just a coincidence that the an overweight man who needed to drop weight quick, happened to use a nasal spray which had a dodgy substance in which is potent and helps drop weight. Weird old world huh?
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 10 Oct 2018, 16:13
by Ruthless-RKO
tobyh5 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 15:53
Anyone know what brand this nasal spray was? Not seen that mentioned yet, just that he took an unspecified one. I could do with shedding some weight myself..
Just a coincidence that the an overweight man who needed to drop weight quick, happened to use a nasal spray which had a dodgy substance in which is potent and helps drop weight. Weird old world huh?
That’s what I was gonna ask!! I’m puttin bit of belly weight on. Just google search’ nasal spray with ‘insert drug name’..
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 10 Oct 2018, 16:57
by Nightmare Roy
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 16:13
tobyh5 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 15:53
Anyone know what brand this nasal spray was? Not seen that mentioned yet, just that he took an unspecified one. I could do with shedding some weight myself..
Just a coincidence that the an overweight man who needed to drop weight quick, happened to use a nasal spray which had a dodgy substance in which is potent and helps drop weight. Weird old world huh?
That’s what I was gonna ask!! I’m puttin bit of belly weight on. Just google search’ nasal spray with ‘insert drug name’..
You can let me know too if you find out fellas could do with it myself
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 10 Oct 2018, 18:14
by forcefraser
Get me the name of that spray NOW
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 08:15
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 08:16
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 08:45
by jamesmcdonnell
I am kind of surprised that Warren is continuing to manage someone like Saunders, who constantly pulls out fights, and can't really sell tickets. What's the upside - if he is stripped of the belt, what value does he offer?
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 08:48
by Stuarty
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 08:45
I am kind of surprised that Warren is continuing to manage someone like Saunders, who constantly pulls out fights, and can't really sell tickets. What's the upside - if he is stripped of the belt, what value does he offer?
Fair point. He must still harbour hopes of getting him in with Canelo or even GGG for a pay day. That's the only reason I can think of because the guy is a liability man.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 09:05
by mickey1975
Billy has been extremely loyal to frank.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 09:11
by jamesmcdonnell
mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 09:05
Billy has been extremely loyal to frank.
So what? Hes a liability and doesnt sell tickets. Its a business relationship not a sexual one.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 09:30
by Ruthless-RKO
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 09:11
mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 09:05
Billy has been extremely loyal to frank.
So what? Hes a liability and doesnt sell tickets. Its a business relationship not a sexual one.
True. But like he said, he’s been loyal. He might not sell out arena’s.. but he’s a name that people want to see KTFO!! So I’ll watch BJS’s next fight hoping for that.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 09:32
by smiling assassin
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 09:11
mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 09:05
Billy has been extremely loyal to frank.
So what? Hes a liability and doesnt sell tickets. Its a business relationship not a sexual one.
From a business point of view they must think they have a valid point or I don't think Frank would be going to court. From a personal view Saunders ain't a bit of me and its probably abit of Karma that he lost his belt out the ring. Take that aside there is no doubting he is a top class fighter and is like to see him boxing again soon
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 09:34
by maverick23
Stuarty wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 08:48
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 08:45
I am kind of surprised that Warren is continuing to manage someone like Saunders, who constantly pulls out fights, and can't really sell tickets. What's the upside - if he is stripped of the belt, what value does he offer?
Fair point. He must still harbour hopes of getting him in with Canelo or even GGG for a pay day. That's the only reason I can think of because the guy is a liability man.
It’s not as though Warren has many fighters who are world class and can headline shows. Whilst BJS doesn’t sell many tickets he is a world class boxer. Warren would have made a bundle from the Andrade fight - a good couple of hundred grand.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 09:50
by jamesmcdonnell
maverick23 wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 09:34
Stuarty wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 08:48
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 08:45
I am kind of surprised that Warren is continuing to manage someone like Saunders, who constantly pulls out fights, and can't really sell tickets. What's the upside - if he is stripped of the belt, what value does he offer?
Fair point. He must still harbour hopes of getting him in with Canelo or even GGG for a pay day. That's the only reason I can think of because the guy is a liability man.
It’s not as though Warren has many fighters who are world class and can headline shows. Whilst BJS doesn’t sell many tickets he is a world class boxer. Warren would have made a bundle from the Andrade fight - a good couple of hundred grand.
Thats kind of what i was steering at, 10 years ago, saunders would most likely have been got rid by now.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 13:53
by tobyh5
I read elsewhere that BJS has vacated
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 13:58
by nitro5912
tobyh5 wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 13:53
I read elsewhere that BJS has vacated
Wbo president has tweeted that he voluntarily vacated.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 14:00
by Ruthless-RKO
nitro5912 wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 13:58
tobyh5 wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 13:53
I read elsewhere that BJS has vacated
Wbo president has tweeted that he voluntarily vacated.
Yeh. He vacated himself. He shouldn’t have. I believe WBO were going to have Andrade fight for the Interim belt, he could have always fought him later.
BJS will likely chase big money fights. He isn’t a PPV fighter, and to be fair, he was supposed to be paid over $2m for this fight.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 14:10
by maverick23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 14:00
nitro5912 wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 13:58
tobyh5 wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 13:53
I read elsewhere that BJS has vacated
Wbo president has tweeted that he voluntarily vacated.
Yeh. He vacated himself. He shouldn’t have. I believe WBO were going to have Andrade fight for the Interim belt, he could have always fought him later.
BJS will likely chase big money fights. He isn’t a PPV fighter, and to be fair, he was supposed to be paid over $2m for this fight.
I think he vacated before he was stripped. I’ve had a quick scan of the WBO rules and they were essentially backed in to a corner - they pretty much had to strip him.
Pity - I was looking forward to the fight.
FW has released a statement about it. There’s lots of talk about WADA but actually quite little about VADA, which is the testing he signed up for.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Demetrius Andrade - 20 October 2018
Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 14:30
by Nightmare Roy
He's fcuked now, he's definitely in the "who needs him club" without a title on offer.