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Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 25 Aug 2018, 16:20
by jameswilson
Fights get announced at press conferences 99% of the time. Sometimes promoters announce that a press conference will take place and intimate what’s being announced, which is obviously what we take the piss out of when referring to announcing an announcement.
It was clear from the post fight that it wasn’t signed at that point as the back and forth was too woolly. Words to the effect of:
‘It’s done.’
‘Where?’
‘Urghhhh we’re discussing that this week.’
Ah not done at all then. But enough for a select few to cream themselves and over react.
Maybe there will be an official press conference in the next 10 days. Who knows. All I can say is I hope if this fight falls through that the people in question get as much stick as David Haye deservedly got because it’s definitley up there with his lack of reliability.
Intimidating there would be a presser last week and now the ESPN accusations are worrying but in saying that camps tend to go quiet just before official announcements so I live in hope,
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 05:06
by Andrew
jameswilson wrote: ↑25 Aug 2018, 16:20
Fights get announced at press conferences 99% of the time. Sometimes promoters announce that a press conference will take place and intimate what’s being announced, which is obviously what we take the piss out of when referring to announcing an announcement.
It was clear from the post fight that it wasn’t signed at that point as the back and forth was too woolly. Words to the effect of:
‘It’s done.’
‘Where?’
‘Urghhhh we’re discussing that this week.’
Ah not done at all then. But enough for a select few to cream themselves and over react.
Maybe there will be an official press conference in the next 10 days. Who knows. All I can say is I hope if this fight falls through that the people in question get as much stick as David Haye deservedly got because it’s definitley up there with his lack of reliability.
Intimidating there would be a presser last week and now the ESPN accusations are worrying but in saying that camps tend to go quiet just before official announcements so I live in hope,
Showtime and BT won't announce it unless something is signed. If it was just FW announcing it then I would believe every word you just said.
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 05:11
by BigDoofus
lillywhite14 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2018, 15:32
Only Fury out of the three has previous for swerving scheduled fights.
We live in hope it happens!
One of them said he'd fight for $50m, was offered it and tweeted "Let's Roll" before waddling away.
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 05:20
by Boxerbeetle
BigDoofus wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 05:11
lillywhite14 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2018, 15:32
Only Fury out of the three has previous for swerving scheduled fights.
We live in hope it happens!
One of them said he'd fight for $50m, was offered it and tweeted "Let's Roll" before waddling away.
Anyone who believes that $50m offer was legit needs their head examined.
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 06:41
by jvincent
There’s a video of Finkel on tha boxing voice from 3 days ago that someone shown me last night that’s worth a watch.
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 07:03
by tobyh5
jvincent wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 06:41
There’s a video of Finkel on tha boxing voice from 3 days ago that someone shown me last night that’s worth a watch.
Lazy as fck, just share the link, I cannot be arsed to go searching
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 07:07
by tobyh5
The right move for Fury would be to not take the fight, keep active and get another two fights in first - December and February/March, then push on for Wilder in May/June but jesus, he will look a right pussy if he does that in the short term (but that will be forgotten if he then goes on and beats Wilder next year)
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 07:18
by jvincent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hVc2tO05ig&t=306s
Here it is. Only reason i didnt share it is everything ive tried to share hasnt worked in past. It was notable really for the sticking points hed mentioned in the past.
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 07:29
by jamamb
quick summary of what #teamwilder is saying?i
mickey and lep need to get a look at this, those boyz love them some shelly
the irony of ppl saying 'lol look at all dishonest hearns lemmings' when they immediately devour everything shelly says, um hes a career business man just looking out for his sides interests and narratives too
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 10:37
by BigDoofus
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 05:20
BigDoofus wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 05:11
lillywhite14 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2018, 15:32
Only Fury out of the three has previous for swerving scheduled fights.
We live in hope it happens!
One of them said he'd fight for $50m, was offered it and tweeted "Let's Roll" before waddling away.
Anyone who believes that $50m offer was legit needs their head examined.
Joshua's promoter confirmed it was legit and the choice was down to Joshua. He chose to walk away.
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 11:00
by Boxerbeetle
BigDoofus wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 10:37
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 05:20
BigDoofus wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 05:11
One of them said he'd fight for $50m, was offered it and tweeted "Let's Roll" before waddling away.
Anyone who believes that $50m offer was legit needs their head examined.
Joshua's promoter confirmed it was legit and the choice was down to Joshua. He chose to walk away.
Yeah, simple as that
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 12:06
by maverick23
BigDoofus wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 10:37
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 05:20
BigDoofus wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 05:11
One of them said he'd fight for $50m, was offered it and tweeted "Let's Roll" before waddling away.
Anyone who believes that $50m offer was legit needs their head examined.
Joshua's promoter confirmed it was legit and the choice was down to Joshua. He chose to walk away.
Did Joshua’s promoter confirm it was legit? When/where was the proposed fight scheduled to happen?
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 12:15
by handsofstone
I know Eddie Hearn is a clever guy and maybe not always as honest as he makes out but in all the interviews ive seen of him, he's always clear on dates about emails, meetings etc, from what I see from Wilder's side is all a bit vague, in the negotiations why was Finkle/Espinoza/Al taking too long to reply to emails etc, they knew Eddie was under pressure from the WBA, why fvck about??
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 12:41
by nitro5912
handsofstone wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 12:15
I know Eddie Hearn is a clever guy and maybe not always as honest as he makes out but in all the interviews ive seen of him, he's always clear on dates about emails, meetings etc, from what I see from Wilder's side is all a bit vague, in the negotiations why was Finkle/Espinoza/Al taking too long to reply to emails etc, they knew Eddie was under pressure from the WBA, why fvck about??
Because they can avoid the AJ fight whilst simultaneously making it look like AJ is ducking.
They made a huge media campaign with the $50m offer. Regardless of the fact it had 0 details, it was massive news. So now they cancelled the meetings etc, refused to expand on details and AJ was pressured into the povetkin fight by the WBA.
So to the normal fan who doesn't follow things closely, they see a $50m offer turned down to fight povetkin. And now wilder is the man willing to fight anyone & AJ is the man who wants old men in his backyard (regardless of the actual records of the 2)
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 12:50
by BigDoofus
maverick23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 12:06
Did Joshua’s promoter confirm it was legit? When/where was the proposed fight scheduled to happen?
Yes. On an IFL interview he said it was now Joshua's choice whether to fight or not.
He didn't expand on the details but given the money Vegas would be a reasonable assumption.
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 12:52
by BigDoofus
nitro5912 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 12:41
handsofstone wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 12:15
I know Eddie Hearn is a clever guy and maybe not always as honest as he makes out but in all the interviews ive seen of him, he's always clear on dates about emails, meetings etc, from what I see from Wilder's side is all a bit vague, in the negotiations why was Finkle/Espinoza/Al taking too long to reply to emails etc, they knew Eddie was under pressure from the WBA, why fvck about??
Because they can avoid the AJ fight whilst simultaneously making it look like AJ is ducking.
They made a huge media campaign with the $50m offer. Regardless of the fact it had 0 details, it was massive news. So now they cancelled the meetings etc, refused to expand on details and AJ was pressured into the povetkin fight by the WBA.
So to the normal fan who doesn't follow things closely, they see a $50m offer turned down to fight povetkin. And now wilder is the man willing to fight anyone & AJ is the man who wants old men in his backyard (regardless of the actual records of the 2)
When Povetkin was put on his undercard it was obvious what Hearn was working towards.
Joshua-Whyte 2 coming next on PPV.
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 13:07
by maverick23
BigDoofus wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 12:50
maverick23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 12:06
Did Joshua’s promoter confirm it was legit? When/where was the proposed fight scheduled to happen?
Yes. On an IFL interview he said it was now Joshua's choice whether to fight or not.
He didn't expand on the details but given the money Vegas would be a reasonable assumption.
He’s also said he’s never seen a contract.
Re: Shelley Finkle IFLTV interview.
Posted: 26 Aug 2018, 15:02
by BigDoofus
maverick23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 13:07
BigDoofus wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 12:50
maverick23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2018, 12:06
Did Joshua’s promoter confirm it was legit? When/where was the proposed fight scheduled to happen?
Yes. On an IFL interview he said it was now Joshua's choice whether to fight or not.
He didn't expand on the details but given the money Vegas would be a reasonable assumption.
He’s also said he’s never seen a contract.
Hearn spoke with the other promoters about the terms offered. If Joshua doesn't want to know why would they pay lawyers to draw up a contract?