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Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 28 Sep 2018, 14:08
by moogie101
So first canelo gets no real punishment for his fail and now a failed test that somehow isn't a fail. fornicating sport is a joke.

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 28 Sep 2018, 14:13
by jamamb
i just dont get the whole argument that under bbbc and uk rules its fine, so therefore no biggie. the fights not in uk and he agreed to vada testing and conditions

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 28 Sep 2018, 14:35
by BigDoofus
Finn wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 11:10 fat Dan broke a false story
Hasn't he had history with BJS on twitter?

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 28 Sep 2018, 14:36
by jamamb
ya bjs called him a pedo

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 28 Sep 2018, 20:09
by Covfefe
So let me get this right.

VADA tested him and he tested positive for a drug that is on their banned list but isn’t banned in either the U.K. or Massachusetts? And it’s somehting he’s allowed to use except on the day of the fight?

So this is a complete non-story?

Dan Rafael needs to be careful breaking stories like that.

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 28 Sep 2018, 20:18
by jamamb
what are the massachussets rules? what do they follow

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 28 Sep 2018, 20:34
by Grilling Machine
To get a message to you? It's only words; Joe wins again.

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 04:42
by PredatorHayds
I went to a Boots pharmacy in Sheffield last week. In front of me in the queue was Brother Awad. He was buying a Vicks spray. He could of easily bought the rub, but he seemed desperate for the spray.
I’m not pointing fingers but he didn’t sound bunged up and he had mischief in his eyes.

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 04:53
by Boxerbeetle
Covfefe wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 20:09 So let me get this right.

VADA tested him and he tested positive for a drug that is on their banned list but isn’t banned in either the U.K. or Massachusetts? And it’s somehting he’s allowed to use except on the day of the fight?

So this is a complete non-story?

Dan Rafael needs to be careful breaking stories like that.
It can’t be that much of a non-story, Hearn said yesterday it’s 50-50 that Saunders will get stripped of his title. All comes down to what the Massachusetts commission decides apparently.

Interview is here, BJS stuff starts around 6:30:


Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 05:47
by Counter-puncher
PredatorHayds wrote: 29 Sep 2018, 04:42 I went to a Boots pharmacy in Sheffield last week. In front of me in the queue was Brother Awad. He was buying a Vicks spray. He could of easily bought the rub, but he seemed desperate for the spray.
I’m not pointing fingers but he didn’t sound bunged up and he had mischief in his eyes.
:OhYes: :clap:

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 07:30
by CMDY
Boxerbeetle wrote: 29 Sep 2018, 04:53
Covfefe wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 20:09 So let me get this right.

VADA tested him and he tested positive for a drug that is on their banned list but isn’t banned in either the U.K. or Massachusetts? And it’s somehting he’s allowed to use except on the day of the fight?

So this is a complete non-story?

Dan Rafael needs to be careful breaking stories like that.
It can’t be that much of a non-story, Hearn said yesterday it’s 50-50 that Saunders will get stripped of his title. All comes down to what the Massachusetts commission decides apparently.

Interview is here, BJS stuff starts around 6:30:

I love Kalle Sauerland's interview bomb at about 9:50!

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 07:41
by Boxerbeetle
cmdenny wrote: 29 Sep 2018, 07:30
Boxerbeetle wrote: 29 Sep 2018, 04:53
Covfefe wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 20:09 So let me get this right.

VADA tested him and he tested positive for a drug that is on their banned list but isn’t banned in either the U.K. or Massachusetts? And it’s somehting he’s allowed to use except on the day of the fight?

So this is a complete non-story?

Dan Rafael needs to be careful breaking stories like that.
It can’t be that much of a non-story, Hearn said yesterday it’s 50-50 that Saunders will get stripped of his title. All comes down to what the Massachusetts commission decides apparently.

Interview is here, BJS stuff starts around 6:30:

I love Kalle Sauerland's interview bomb at about 9:50!
I fvcking love Kalle :lol: He’s clearly got a great life and is enjoying every minute of it

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 20:23
by Glass Joe

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 20:44
by greg
..Kalle's a character :TU: ..wonder what kind of nasal spray he's been using :maybe:

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 16:32
by jamamb
so maybe not just some irresponsibly reported, non-story then, eh?

some fake 'fake news' perhaps?

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 16:37
by Glass Joe


:witzend: :witzend: :witzend: Bet the 5 people who booked flights will be gutted still a good trade card. Wonder where BJS goes from here. (probably balloon back in weight)

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 16:42
by bigjack
Glass Joe wrote: 09 Oct 2018, 16:37

:witzend: :witzend: :witzend: Bet the 5 people who booked flights will be gutted still a good trade card. Wonder where BJS goes from here. (probably balloon back in weight)
Couldn't have happened to a nicer person :lol: :clap: :TU: :wave:

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 16:45
by Boxerbeetle
Oh dear. Shame as it would have been an interesting fight. A bigger draw / more popular guy would probably have gotten away with it.

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 18:15
by jamamb
Finn wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 11:10
tony1234 wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 10:05 So if the VADA test doesn't count why was Saunders tested ? Money talks and Eddie won't want that show called off and they won't want to lose any sanctioning fees
Vada have the best screening system so this has flagged up, but the results are passed to the sanctioning bodies who have their list of prohibited drugs. No sanctioning board in boxing prohibits this stimulant during training as it only lasts 12 hours. It’s banned within 24 hours of a fight, basically VADA yellow flagged it and fat Dan broke a false story. It’s a storm in a teacup he’s allowed to take the stimulant and that’s about that.
ya, great stuff, finn

it was all just a false story by irresponsible dan rafael

and absolutely no one in the world prohibits this substance or will have a problem with it being used.

and 'thats about that', because a fr@ank warren press release said so

no biggie, fight going ahead, it was all just fake news mate!!! lol!

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 19:05
by Finn
jamamb wrote: 09 Oct 2018, 18:15
Finn wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 11:10
tony1234 wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 10:05 So if the VADA test doesn't count why was Saunders tested ? Money talks and Eddie won't want that show called off and they won't want to lose any sanctioning fees
Vada have the best screening system so this has flagged up, but the results are passed to the sanctioning bodies who have their list of prohibited drugs. No sanctioning board in boxing prohibits this stimulant during training as it only lasts 12 hours. It’s banned within 24 hours of a fight, basically VADA yellow flagged it and fat Dan broke a false story. It’s a storm in a teacup he’s allowed to take the stimulant and that’s about that.
ya, great stuff, finn

it was all just a false story by irresponsible dan rafael

and absolutely no one in the world prohibits this substance or will have a problem with it being used.

and 'thats about that', because a fr@ank warren press release said so

no biggie, fight going ahead, it was all just fake news mate!!! lol!
This new story about the fight being off and Saunders being stripped by the WBO is more leaked bs from fat dan. Completely made up and that’s about that.

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 19:09
by Glass Joe

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 19:09
by jamamb
lol, so its all fake about msac denying him a liscense and that?

its all fake that bjs-andrade is off?

lmao, okay finn, its all just a big conspiracy by dan rafael!

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 19:13
by Boxerbeetle
Finn wrote: 09 Oct 2018, 19:05
jamamb wrote: 09 Oct 2018, 18:15
Finn wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 11:10

Vada have the best screening system so this has flagged up, but the results are passed to the sanctioning bodies who have their list of prohibited drugs. No sanctioning board in boxing prohibits this stimulant during training as it only lasts 12 hours. It’s banned within 24 hours of a fight, basically VADA yellow flagged it and fat Dan broke a false story. It’s a storm in a teacup he’s allowed to take the stimulant and that’s about that.
ya, great stuff, finn

it was all just a false story by irresponsible dan rafael

and absolutely no one in the world prohibits this substance or will have a problem with it being used.

and 'thats about that', because a fr@ank warren press release said so

no biggie, fight going ahead, it was all just fake news mate!!! lol!
This new story about the fight being off and Saunders being stripped by the WBO is more leaked bs from fat dan. Completely made up and that’s about that.
It is odd that there doesn’t seem to be an official statement yet, but even Andrade has retweeted about it so presumably it must be true.

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 19:16
by jamamb
if it were all just fake i highly doubt warren/bjs etc would be keeping silent about it for now while all sorts of mainstream press and major fight writers say msac denied him and andrade is now fighting this namibian

the wbo pres has talked about it too

Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 19:21
by Finn
jamamb wrote: 09 Oct 2018, 19:09 lol, so its all fake about msac denying him a liscense and that?

its all fake that bjs-andrade is off?

lmao, okay finn, its all just a big conspiracy by dan rafael!
Everyone knows Dan Raf controls the sanctioning bodies. He personally signed the paperwork allowing Canelo to fight after his failed drugs test and then put £1mil of his own money given to him by Terrance Crawford on Canelo to win on points against GGG. He fell out with BJS and now false story after false story about BJS and if it isn’t a false story he personally signed off the paperwork stopping BJS from fighting. And that’s about that.