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Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 09:45
by bigjack
astradamus wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 09:09
bigjack wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 06:14
astradamus wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 06:07
Yea, and that everybody already named him and let you realise beforehand that he nearly achieved it which made your comment completely pointless.
Mine was pointless ? :zzz: :lol: :doh: i didn't name him because it was pointless,you named Chagaev which was also pointless,You may as well say Wlad didn't get knocked down,apart from the times he got knocked down :witzend:
All your posts are pointless :zzz: :lol: :doh: you didn't name anyone at all, all your posts are just waste of forumspace yet.


Sven Ottke
I admit i struggled to name someone who hadn't already been named ,i could come up with a list of boxers that had been knocked down but then that wasn't the question was it ? weren't you banned once ?

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 09:52
by bennie
orbtastic wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 09:29
paddy chavez wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 07:44 Did buddy mcgirt get floored he lost to meldrick Taylor by tko but I can't remember if he went down
No, Taylor couldn't put him down. Towel came in.

Council knocked him down with a great left hook before stopping him a round or two later.

Reggie Johnson had a solid beard and went in with some big punchers (Parks, Castro, Guthrie, Klemetsen etc) but he admits that a handful of guys knocked him down with quick shots (Eric Williams, Victor Walker, Ismael Negron, Eddie Hall and Roy Jones). I remember Jones knocking him down.

Ramirez went in with some big guns, he has a really early stoppage loss to Olivares down at feather so I have to assume he was on his arse at some point.

Nelson had a great chin but Sanchez knocked him down twice. Was he knocked down after that? Leija?
Mario Martinez dropped Nelson and looked a bit unlucky to lose a split decision.

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 09:57
by bennie
Philadelphia legend George Benton was never floored.

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 10:23
by bennie
Manchester Massive wrote: 04 Nov 2018, 16:42 Juan Laporte must have had some chin looking at the company he kept
Great call. LaPorte was never floored in monstrous company.

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 10:47
by orbtastic
Bradley's been down loads. Provo basically gave him short term brain damage.

Ottke has been down too, Reid knocked him down although the ref ruled it a slip. Mundine had him down too.

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 10:57
by bigjack
ASJKLDL or whatever your name is,you really do need to get your facts right before mouthing off on here,crawl back under your bridge :lol:

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 11:11
by bigjack
astradamus wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 11:07
bigjack wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 09:45
astradamus wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 09:09
All your posts are pointless :zzz: :lol: :doh: you didn't name anyone at all, all your posts are just waste of forumspace yet.

Sven Ottke
I admit i struggled to name someone who hadn't already been named ,i could come up with a list of boxers that had been knocked down but then that wasn't the question was it ? weren't you banned once ?
In my opinion some boxers simply earned their spot anyway, despite going down at very high age or something.

Ernie Schaaf for example never went down in 65 fights. Then he finally went down for the first time in his life, he never stood up and 4 days later he was death.

Anyway, if you got no name and nothing interesting to post anyway, please don't come back at all, that's the best for everyone.
Best for you you mean because your argument is heavily floored and you have no answers.

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 11:18
by bigjack
bigjack wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 11:11
astradamus wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 11:07
bigjack wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 09:45
I admit i struggled to name someone who hadn't already been named ,i could come up with a list of boxers that had been knocked down but then that wasn't the question was it ? weren't you banned once ?
In my opinion some boxers simply earned their spot anyway, despite going down at very high age or something.

Ernie Schaaf for example never went down in 65 fights. Then he finally went down for the first time in his life, he never stood up and 4 days later he was death.

Anyway, if you got no name and nothing interesting to post anyway, please don't come back at all, that's the best for everyone.
Best for you you mean because your argument is heavily floored and you have no answers.
Oh and by the way,learn to speak English :TU:

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 12:06
by orbtastic
haha. Flawed, although floored fits better with the thread title.

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 12:26
by bigjack
orbtastic wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 12:06 haha. Flawed, although floored fits better with the thread title.
That was on purpose :lol:

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 18:15
by Onetimeonly
Shhhh wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 10:07
MightyWarrior wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 03:41 Oh Probably right about McCallum getting dropped then, I recall him getting shook up a few times, excellent chin but not in the Hagler category. I don’t think Marv was ever visibly badly shaken, Hearns and Minter hurt him ( maybe ) but it was fookin hard to tell.
Juan Roldan droped hagler I fink
It was a ridiculous call.

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 08 Nov 2018, 11:38
by bigjack
astradamus wrote: 08 Nov 2018, 10:52
bigjack wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 11:11
astradamus wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 11:07
In my opinion some boxers simply earned their spot anyway, despite going down at very high age or something.

Ernie Schaaf for example never went down in 65 fights. Then he finally went down for the first time in his life, he never stood up and 4 days later he was death.

Anyway, if you got no name and nothing interesting to post anyway, please don't come back at all, that's the best for everyone.
Best for you you mean because your argument is heavily floored and you have no answers.
I floored my own argument from start of and it's you with no answers.
:zzz:

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 08 Nov 2018, 13:09
by bigjack
Shhhh wrote: 08 Nov 2018, 13:02
Onetimeonly wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 18:15
Shhhh wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 10:07

Juan Roldan droped hagler I fink
It was a ridiculous call.
I never seen it to be honest
It was clearly a slip and bad call by the referee.

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 08 Nov 2018, 13:41
by Controversial
Billy Graham, never dropped in 126 fights (or stopped)

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 08 Nov 2018, 14:15
by Oiky
Controversial wrote: 08 Nov 2018, 13:41 Billy Graham, never dropped in 126 fights (or stopped)
Old school fighter, teak tough :TU:

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 08 Nov 2018, 14:46
by orbtastic
I thought of Maxie Rosenbloom last night but apparently he was dropped at least once. Still, nearly 300 fights that is pretty incredible.

re: Hagler/Roldan, he was crouching forward and gets hit behind the head with a left hook. It's weird, he clearly does go down/forwards but having watched it on a loop about 50 times he's pushing himself up almost immediately as he makes contact with the canvas. Obviously a slip. In slow-mo you can see his right boot go.

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 08 Nov 2018, 14:58
by Cyclops
DrDuke wrote: 04 Nov 2018, 10:21 Vitali Klitschko had a helluva chin and had never been knocked down in his boxing pro-career, although he was knocked out cold in an amateur kickboxing match once.
I think Corrie Sanders had a case for a legitimate knockdown against Vitali but it wasn't ruled. I don't even need to time stamp it in this video it happens in the first minute



This was debated a few times on here over the years I've been posting, I think it's disputable but to me it's legit enough. Not official though. Sanders certainly had a dig on him.

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 08 Nov 2018, 16:24
by Webbo911
Nothing to add, but glad I still come on here regular, even if I don't post much.

Some days I forget what I've had for breakfast! Some of the knowledge/memories of some posters on here is absolutely top drawer stuff.

:TU: :bow:

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 08 Nov 2018, 18:08
by jamamb
clopixolacuphase wrote: 08 Nov 2018, 14:58
DrDuke wrote: 04 Nov 2018, 10:21 Vitali Klitschko had a helluva chin and had never been knocked down in his boxing pro-career, although he was knocked out cold in an amateur kickboxing match once.
I think Corrie Sanders had a case for a legitimate knockdown against Vitali but it wasn't ruled. I don't even need to time stamp it in this video it happens in the first minute



This was debated a few times on here over the years I've been posting, I think it's disputable but to me it's legit enough. Not official though. Sanders certainly had a dig on him.
hmmm, see, i would say vitali was clearly hurt, but i think he ultimately goes down from a push. you can see vitali is still standing after all the landed punches, but then sanders places his right glove around vitalis left side and pushes down....and then thats when vitali drops. dont think that uppercut as vitali goes down even lands

tbh i think the ref was correct in saying no knockdown although its one that takes a few replays

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 11:28
by Counter-puncher
orbtastic wrote: 04 Nov 2018, 14:37

The Czech dude who was wbo light middle, quite a decent little boxer I’m fairly sure wasn’t dropped, Lucas konechny (sp)

Ricardo Lopez
:yay: 20 points for Konecny reference. every now and then I plaintively search youtube for the Matty Hall fight. I watched the Dzindzuruk(?) fight again the other night funnily enough.

Finito Lopez was down once vs Rosendo Alvarez :TU:

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 11:29
by Counter-puncher
jamamb wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 01:49 ya cant find any case of kotelnik being dropped, was a really sound technical fighter with tight guard, some dispute his win over maidana but i thought he won legitimately

just too basic athletically for faster top level guys
:TU: for me the Maidana performance was a great win. if i was teaching a kid to box that would be one of my lessons, like Watson-Benn, keep calm, keep your guard, keep your jab going.

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 11:37
by Counter-puncher
orbtastic wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 09:29

Ramirez went in with some big guns, he has a really early stoppage loss to Olivares down at feather so I have to assume he was on his arse at some point.

Nelson had a great chin but Sanchez knocked him down twice. Was he knocked down after that? Leija?
I think Ramirez was knocked down in the second Rosario fight.

I thought Nelson got knocked down in one of his later, more disinterested performances (probably avenged in a punch-perfect rematch, you know just the usual shit from him), Grove or Leija

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 11:38
by Counter-puncher
bennie wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 10:23
Manchester Massive wrote: 04 Nov 2018, 16:42 Juan Laporte must have had some chin looking at the company he kept
Great call. LaPorte was never floored in monstrous company.
:bow:

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 14:02
by Onetimeonly
Counter-puncher wrote: 09 Nov 2018, 11:37
orbtastic wrote: 07 Nov 2018, 09:29

Ramirez went in with some big guns, he has a really early stoppage loss to Olivares down at feather so I have to assume he was on his arse at some point.

Nelson had a great chin but Sanchez knocked him down twice. Was he knocked down after that? Leija?
I think Ramirez was knocked down in the second Rosario fight.

I thought Nelson got knocked down in one of his later, more disinterested performances (probably avenged in a punch-perfect rematch, you know just the usual poo from him), Grove or Leija
Ramirez was dropped at least twice in that fight. Huge comeback.

Re: high level fighters never dropped

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 14:15
by bigjack
Shhhh wrote: 09 Nov 2018, 14:08 Did anyone mention Usyk yet?
I think it's aimed at retired fighters.