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DrDuke wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:16

gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:15

DrDuke wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:14

Fury was more effective through the fight. That's a one of definitions of dominance, I'd say.

He was in 6 rounds. I agree. Unfortunately it takes at least 8 to win a fight when you've been dropped twice.

He won 9 on my cards.

RKY wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 05:43

DrDuke wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:16

gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:15

He was in 6 rounds. I agree. Unfortunately it takes at least 8 to win a fight when you've been dropped twice.

He won 9 on my cards.

Then your card fvcking sucks. Anyone who gave Fury round 5 wasn't watching it or is just making shît up after-the-fact.

getnada wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 05:46 These judges proof what's wrong with boxing.
The WBC is as corrupt as it gets, I've seen the little brother getting outboxed by a big loser and receive a full 45-40 win, despite he lost most of the rounds and even the so called knock down was more like a push. When I saw that I already predicted Tyson Fury was in big trouble if he couldn't KO. Knock downs or not, one of the refs had Wilder winning no matter what, with multiple rounds even, even without the knock downs. That's just sad, just about any independent person would agree with that. On top of this I saw a Russian allmost getting robbed against an old men, untill he finally won with a KO. It's just silly, the WBC guy even walked into the ring in the 10th round or so, to protect Wilder, what the hell is that?!

Despite beïng a lot better then Wilder has ever been, I think Fury is a lot worse right now then he was against Klitschko, in fact, I wouldn't even be surprised if the current inactive Klitschko would have won against both of them last night. If you genuinly consider this fight to be a draw, then DW should receive the belt by now, he's the mandatory for a long long time now and simply get's ignored by Wilder because Wilder knows he would lose badly. DW got a better chin then Fury got.

Ortiz also showed why he doesn't belong in the top 10 any more, Povetkin or Whyte would have knocked him out clearly, no wonder Ortiz ducked them. I think even Chisora got at least a very very fair chance of knocking him out.

I hope Sulaiman comes to his senses together with his team and shifts the belt to the location it belongs and that's either AJ because he defeated Povetkin, or Dillian Whyte because Wilder ducks him for obvious reasons. Even most Americans feel ashamed of the corruption in boxing right now.

I genuinly consider several posters on this forum as trolls when they claim Wilder should have won this fight.

Also, I can't ever take any American serious any more when they claim Russians are cheating, I can show so many fights by now that proof it's only the WBC and the Americans out there who do. Kovalev, GGG, Fury, Gvozdyk, they all receive corrupt refs whenever fighting Americans. It's repetitive scandalous cheating time over time over time again and again and again and again and even some Americans even shamelessly defend that kind of behaviour.

HeavyHitters wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:39

DrDuke wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:14

gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:13

You and I have a different definition of Dominated.

I understand Domination as thoroughly shutting a guy down, and not giving him a moment of control.

Not throwing your hands in the air, throwing your hands behind your back, sticking your tongue out, and generally being a jackass.

He did well in the latter half of the fight, but he started too late to deserve the win IMO.

Fury was more effective through the fight. That's a one of definitions of dominance, I'd say.

You can't be considered "dominant", when you end up lying on your back two times during the fight. It's like saying a pitcher actually threw a no-hitter, if it wasn't for those hits that he gave up in the third seventh and ninth inning. Ha ha

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:09

gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:06 Draw was fair. A narrow margin victory either way would've been reasonable too. No robbery here. Nobody dominated.

Nobody did much of anything past both of them showing an epic will to win in the last round.

marvelous marv wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 08:39 If there was a fix it was to help Fury reach the final bell so there could be a rematch.

marvelous marv wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 08:51 Very slow count, made him walk back and forth for an additional 20 seconds before letting the fight continue.

candyslim wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 09:05 Massive respect to Fury all round. I said it would be a mismatch. I was wrong.

I haven't yet seen the fight so I can't comment about the decision, but credit to both fighters in fact for each coming through against a top level opponent.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:32

skanksta wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:30 It's the Mexican judge who's out of line.
Wilder winning the first 4
That's hard to understand.

Out of the first 4, the only one he won was a close round.

I can't believe there are guys on here saying Wilder won too. That's the toughest part. I'm on a better forum with better posters, and I've not seen anyone that thinks Wilder won that fight.

adislav123 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:46

HeavyHitters wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:39

DrDuke wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:14

Fury was more effective through the fight. That's a one of definitions of dominance, I'd say.

You can't be considered "dominant", when you end up lying on your back two times during the fight. It's like saying a pitcher actually threw a no-hitter, if it wasn't for those hits that he gave up in the third seventh and ninth inning. Ha ha

if you dominate the whole fight, win every round except the one were you got caught and got right back up, then you were dominating the whole fight and won every round just got caught 2 times THAT MEANS YOU DOMINATED THE FIGHT. the poo you babble about ballsports has poo to do with boxing

guysecretan wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 09:22 It wasn't a robbery because he got knocked down twice. All this showed is how poor Wilder is. On that performance I think Dillian Whyte could beat him or Joe Joyce or Daniel Dubois. Fury still put on the kind of same boring performance with no real powerful or troubling shots just lots of twitching and feints. It maybe the 'art of boxing' but if he wants to win convincingly he needs at least one knock down.

dagilechia wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 09:27

guysecretan wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 09:22 It wasn't a robbery because he got knocked down twice. All this showed is how poor Wilder is. On that performance I think Dillian Whyte could beat him or Joe Joyce or Daniel Dubois. Fury still put on the kind of same boring performance with no real powerful or troubling shots just lots of twitching and feints. It maybe the 'art of boxing' but if he wants to win convincingly he needs at least one knock down.

so what that Fury was down twice? you still needed to award Wilder 5 out of 12 rounds to make it a draw.

martinmrts wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 09:36

dagilechia wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 09:27

guysecretan wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 09:22 It wasn't a robbery because he got knocked down twice. All this showed is how poor Wilder is. On that performance I think Dillian Whyte could beat him or Joe Joyce or Daniel Dubois. Fury still put on the kind of same boring performance with no real powerful or troubling shots just lots of twitching and feints. It maybe the 'art of boxing' but if he wants to win convincingly he needs at least one knock down.

so what that Fury was down twice? you still needed to award Wilder 5 out of 12 rounds to make it a draw.

3 actually, assuming 10-8 for the knockdown rounds. Not inconceivable

pound per pound wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 09:39 Fury won the fight.

Notice how people who think Fury won are not shy about posting their round by round score cards, but those who say it was a draw or Wilder won do that that?

Need I say more?