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Oiky wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 16:30

Stuarty wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 16:26

Oiky wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 16:10

Yeah she does, shes just an aggravating looking creature and she talks sh*t

I'd still throw one right up her Gary though

True to form

rd350lc wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 17:01 As an enforced licence payer I'd like to know how the " sports personality of the year " has actually no personality ?

What is it actually awarded for ?

It's time to sack this poo off , has a boxer ever won it ? Always seems the right " sort " of people win it .

Stopped watching it years ago .

rd350lc wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 17:01 As an enforced licence payer I'd like to know how the " sports personality of the year " has actually no personality ?

What is it actually awarded for ?

It's time to sack this poo off , has a boxer ever won it ? Always seems the right " sort " of people win it .

Stopped watching it years ago .

Loynesy wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 17:24 How are you an enforced license payer? You can opt of it if you don’t watch TV?

Coco wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 17:34 If you do a sport which is on the BBC you are at a huge advantage

dalcumly wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 17:53 The BBC sports personality of the year is now totally irrelevant. They don't cover boxing, horse racing, they've practically lost the golf majors, only cover Wimbledon not the other majors, and are reduced to match of the day and the FA cup.
Netball, snow sports, and other minority sports just about sums them up. Someone mentioned earlier about women's football , they were spot on. The biggest women's football matches attract live crowds similar to small clubs in the Northern Premier League but the BBC website try their hardest to give it 'equal' status to the men's game.
I didn't watch it, I was watching the paint drying.

banjo wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 06:27 The thing is every year people go "but he's boring, he's got no personality" and fail to realise it's not about their personality as in they'd be a cool person to have a beer with, it's about what they've achieved as a sports person. Now I've no issue with Geraint Thomas winning it as cycling is a brutally hard sport, he seemed shocked to win it but you can't knock his achiements and he is a deserving winner.

tonyevs wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 04:51

banjo wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 06:27 The thing is every year people go "but he's boring, he's got no personality" and fail to realise it's not about their personality as in they'd be a cool person to have a beer with, it's about what they've achieved as a sports person. Now I've no issue with Geraint Thomas winning it as cycling is a brutally hard sport, he seemed shocked to win it but you can't knock his achiements and he is a deserving winner.

But it’s still the usual middle class winner, and whilst cycling is a very popular hobby/interest for many ... those getting to the top are almost all from privileged middle class backgrounds like Geraint Thomas. British Cycling were recently asked to provide information on the kids in their development academies, and refused because it was estimated to show something like 80% were from middle class backgrounds ... cycling is not a sport you get to the top in from humble beginnings.

And of course. After receiving substantial sponsorship to ride s bike from his early teens - once Geraint Thomas started earning big money he moved to Monaco to avoid paying taxes.

tonyevs wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 04:51

banjo wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 06:27 The thing is every year people go "but he's boring, he's got no personality" and fail to realise it's not about their personality as in they'd be a cool person to have a beer with, it's about what they've achieved as a sports person. Now I've no issue with Geraint Thomas winning it as cycling is a brutally hard sport, he seemed shocked to win it but you can't knock his achiements and he is a deserving winner.

But it’s still the usual middle class winner, and whilst cycling is a very popular hobby/interest for many ... those getting to the top are almost all from privileged middle class backgrounds like Geraint Thomas. British Cycling were recently asked to provide information on the kids in their development academies, and refused because it was estimated to show something like 80% were from middle class backgrounds ... cycling is not a sport you get to the top in from humble beginnings.

And of course. After receiving substantial sponsorship to ride s bike from his early teens - once Geraint Thomas started earning big money he moved to Monaco to avoid paying taxes.

banjo wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 06:20

tonyevs wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 04:51

banjo wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 06:27 The thing is every year people go "but he's boring, he's got no personality" and fail to realise it's not about their personality as in they'd be a cool person to have a beer with, it's about what they've achieved as a sports person. Now I've no issue with Geraint Thomas winning it as cycling is a brutally hard sport, he seemed shocked to win it but you can't knock his achiements and he is a deserving winner.

But it’s still the usual middle class winner, and whilst cycling is a very popular hobby/interest for many ... those getting to the top are almost all from privileged middle class backgrounds like Geraint Thomas. British Cycling were recently asked to provide information on the kids in their development academies, and refused because it was estimated to show something like 80% were from middle class backgrounds ... cycling is not a sport you get to the top in from humble beginnings.

And of course. After receiving substantial sponsorship to ride s bike from his early teens - once Geraint Thomas started earning big money he moved to Monaco to avoid paying taxes.

If you can get to the top in Formula One from humble beginnings I'm pretty certain you could do it in cycling, it's all about sponsorship but you've got to show something special to gain that sponsorship.

banjo wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 16:09

Stuarty wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 16:05

Oiky wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 14:07 Can’t bare that sickly lookin gabby Logan

She looks more like a man the older she gets doesn't she!

Aye, I think the same about that Kirsty Gallacher too, she was amazing on her old show back in the day "Kirsty's Home Video's" (disappointing content given the name though) in those leather pants.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 08:26 Rugby is starting to pay bigger money in recent years.

It’s onviously a physically tougher sport than football but I’m talking about the ingrained toughness needed to succeed in high level sport. A working class background is far better for developing that side of any athletes game.
Football is by far the most popular sport in this country. I have no doubt that making it in the sport is the number one ambition of most kids, from all backgrounds. Middle class lads struggle to make any consistent impact because they are up against working class lads from the start and more importantly, it’s a level playing field. The general desire, toughness or whatever you’d call it, means priviliged private school types are left behind. The priviliged kids who do make it in football are usually from a football family who are traditionally working class yet made good money in the game and sent their kids private ( Frank Lampard and Oxlade Chamberlain for example )

My prediction of the middle classes being phased out in rugby union is based on working class kids having access to the game. It’s not everywhere of course but it’s certainly more open to everyone than it was 20 years ago.

The more the sport becomes about money the less it becomes about contacts and background too I would have thought. It’ll become all about the result and nobody will give a toss about your face fitting hopefully!
Might mean England start dominating the game too

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 08:26 Rugby is starting to pay bigger money in recent years.

It’s onviously a physically tougher sport than football but I’m talking about the ingrained toughness needed to succeed in high level sport. A working class background is far better for developing that side of any athletes game.
Football is by far the most popular sport in this country. I have no doubt that making it in the sport is the number one ambition of most kids, from all backgrounds. Middle class lads struggle to make any consistent impact because they are up against working class lads from the start and more importantly, it’s a level playing field. The general desire, toughness or whatever you’d call it, means priviliged private school types are left behind. The priviliged kids who do make it in football are usually from a football family who are traditionally working class yet made good money in the game and sent their kids private ( Frank Lampard and Oxlade Chamberlain for example )

My prediction of the middle classes being phased out in rugby union is based on working class kids having access to the game. It’s not everywhere of course but it’s certainly more open to everyone than it was 20 years ago.

The more the sport becomes about money the less it becomes about contacts and background too I would have thought. It’ll become all about the result and nobody will give a toss about your face fitting hopefully!
Might mean England start dominating the game too

skanksta wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 10:41

banjo wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 16:09

Stuarty wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 16:05

She looks more like a man the older she gets doesn't she!

Aye, I think the same about that Kirsty Gallacher too, she was amazing on her old show back in the day "Kirsty's Home Video's" (disappointing content given the name though) in those leather pants.

Coco wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 10:53

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2018, 08:26 Rugby is starting to pay bigger money in recent years.

It’s onviously a physically tougher sport than football but I’m talking about the ingrained toughness needed to succeed in high level sport. A working class background is far better for developing that side of any athletes game.
Football is by far the most popular sport in this country. I have no doubt that making it in the sport is the number one ambition of most kids, from all backgrounds. Middle class lads struggle to make any consistent impact because they are up against working class lads from the start and more importantly, it’s a level playing field. The general desire, toughness or whatever you’d call it, means priviliged private school types are left behind. The priviliged kids who do make it in football are usually from a football family who are traditionally working class yet made good money in the game and sent their kids private ( Frank Lampard and Oxlade Chamberlain for example )

My prediction of the middle classes being phased out in rugby union is based on working class kids having access to the game. It’s not everywhere of course but it’s certainly more open to everyone than it was 20 years ago.

The more the sport becomes about money the less it becomes about contacts and background too I would have thought. It’ll become all about the result and nobody will give a toss about your face fitting hopefully!
Might mean England start dominating the game too

Rugby is a posh mans sport in England and Scotland but working class in Wales, I think in Ireland and New Zealand too.
And maybe an upbringing in English public schools is pretty brutal too!