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Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:31
by Skalamanga
India has a population of 1.4 billion! And millions upon millions living around the world and descendants
Yet have never even had a single world champion ever or a single olympic gold or world championship gold medalist ever
Aint nobody can ever make an excuse for that one. They are simply fornicating hopelessly terrible at boxing no matter how hard they try. Exact same story as in football.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:32
by Skalamanga
Turkey also have never even had a single world champion ever. They have always been terrible at boxing.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:39
by Skalamanga
Portugal Honduras and Denmark all have very tiny populations in comparison to India yet you put them in the same sentence lol ! India has double the population of the whole of Europe combined!
Denmark have at least had Mikkel Kessler and the Bredahl brothers as world champions
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:42
by Skalamanga
Some snowflakes really talk rubbish. There is trends and clear differences when it comes to nations/regions/continents/races.
For example Jamaica are the best at sprinting.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:43
by Skalamanga
Some snowflakes really talk rubbish. There is trends and clear differences when it comes to nations/regions/continents/races.
For example Jamaica are the best at sprinting, yet are poor at almost everything else.
Russia and Ukraine are excellent at Boxing and fighting sports, but not good at football.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:49
by ValMar
Skalamanga wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 13:39
Portugal Honduras and Denmark all have very tiny populations in comparison to India yet you put them in the same sentence lol ! India has double the population of the whole of Europe combined!
Denmark have at least had Mikkel Kessler and the Bredahl brothers as world champions
I mean boxing tradition, obviously.....................
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:51
by dagilechia
Skalamanga wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 13:31
India has a population of 1.4 billion! And millions upon millions living around the world and descendants
Yet have never even had a single world champion ever or a single olympic gold or world championship gold medalist ever
Aint nobody can ever make an excuse for that one. They are simply effing hopelessly terrible at boxing no matter how hard they try. Exact same story as in football.
well said... there are boxing nations, football nations etc, it's not just that some people are good and others are bad. for example China has like 130x population of Portugal so i guess that at least 10x people trains (and trains professionally) football in China than in Portugal but still Portugal is much better.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:51
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 13:51
Skalamanga wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 13:31
India has a population of 1.4 billion! And millions upon millions living around the world and descendants
Yet have never even had a single world champion ever or a single olympic gold or world championship gold medalist ever
Aint nobody can ever make an excuse for that one. They are simply effing hopelessly terrible at boxing no matter how hard they try. Exact same story as in football.
well said... there are boxing nations, football nations etc, it's not just that some people are good and others are bad. for example China has like 130x population of Portugal so i guess that at least 10x people trains (and trains professionally) football in China than in Portugal but still Portugal is much better.
And for India, Cricket nations!
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:02
by chuck9788
Skalamanga wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 13:32
Turkey also have never even had a single world champion ever. They have always been terrible at boxing.
Turkish born boxer Avni Yildirim (21-1, 12 KO's) is fighting Anthony Dirrell (32-1-1, 24 KO's) in Minneapolis MN on Feb 23rd ...... It's for the vacant
WBC Super middleweight title.
Selcuk Aydin and Sinan Samil Sam were pretty decent. Atagun Yalcinkaya earned a silver medal in Athens 2004 and went (4-0, 4 KO's) as a pro.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:04
by oogiebe
chuck9788 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:02
Skalamanga wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 13:32
Turkey also have never even had a single world champion ever. They have always been terrible at boxing.
Turkish born boxer Avni Yildirim (21-1, 12 KO's) is fighting Anthony Dirrell (32-1-1, 24 KO's) in Minneapolis MN on Feb 23rd ...... It's for the vacant
WBC Super middleweight title.
Selcuk Aydin and Sinan Samil Sam were pretty decent. Atagun Yalcinkaya earned a silver medal in Athens 2004 and went (4-0, 4 KO's) as a pro.

Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:17
by Ruthless-RKO
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:27
oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:24
chuck9788 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:22
Yes, and Panama. Roberto Duran is a revered in that nation.
In Argentina it's huge. Always has been. I have a lot of relatives there and they are rabid fans.
Argentina i guess is the only boxing nation in South America
Venezuela must have some interest
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:19
by oogiebe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:17
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:27
oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:24
In Argentina it's huge. Always has been. I have a lot of relatives there and they are rabid fans.
Argentina i guess is the only boxing nation in South America
Venezuela must have some interest
Jorge Linares comes to mind.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:25
by chuck9788
Sadly, spousal abuser and cold blooded murderer Edwin Valero (27-0, 27 KO's) first came to my mind.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:25
by Ruthless-RKO
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:19
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:17
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:27
Argentina i guess is the only boxing nation in South America
Venezuela must have some interest
Jorge Linares comes to mind.
http://boxrec.com/en/ratings?wnG%5Bcoun ... %5D=&r_go=
He isn’t even top 10. They’ve had quite a few tbh. But all below Welterweight.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:27
by chuck9788
Intersting ... Edwin Valero is not even ranked on Boxrec. It's like he never existed.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:27
by oogiebe
I guess I should have ran that too. Not sure why I'm responding anyway.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:30
by Ruthless-RKO
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:27
I guess I should have ran that too. Not sure why I'm responding anyway.
I’m not saying anything bad mate. Linares is a good name to mention. He get’s mainstream attention. But by the looks of it, there have been some other good names in the past eh?
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:37
by oogiebe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:30
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:27
I guess I should have ran that too. Not sure why I'm responding anyway.
I’m not saying anything bad mate. Linares is a good name to mention. He get’s mainstream attention. But by the looks of it, there have been some other good names in the past eh?
I was just saying I should have thought of it. Valero is no where in the first 50 which by the names on the list, I find weird. There were more names on the list than I figured, but we can't remember everything, although some posters think they do! Nicaragua would be interesting to see.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:38
by Ruthless-RKO
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:37
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:30
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:27
I guess I should have ran that too. Not sure why I'm responding anyway.
I’m not saying anything bad mate. Linares is a good name to mention. He get’s mainstream attention. But by the looks of it, there have been some other good names in the past eh?
I was just saying I should have thought of it. Valero is no where in the first 50 which by the names on the list, I find weird. There were more names on the list than I figured, but we can't remember everything, although some posters think they do! Nicaragua would be interesting to see.
Valero unfortunately wasn’t able to accumulate enough BoxRec points as he had a short career.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:46
by oogiebe
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:47
by Oiky
I think boxing is biggest here in the UK, it's also big in Ukraine, Mexico, Russia, USA, but mma is seeing a lot more of a rise too
I know people who hated mma, had no respect for it and called it things like "two men f*cking each other in a cage"

but they now follow mma a lot more than boxing. I think mma is shedding its undisciplined image regarding fights an the fighters and fights are getting more technically savvy an people are warning too it more and they also prefer the matchmaking and general attitude of the fighters
Both are still niche sports, but boxing is definitely a minority sport, even here in the uk where it's a big deal, it's still nowhere near as popular as it used to be, or should be
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:50
by oogiebe
Oiky wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:47
I think boxing is biggest here in the UK, it's also big in Ukraine, Mexico, Russia, USA, but mma is seeing a lot more of a rise too
I know people who hated mma, had no respect for it and called it things like "two men f*cking each other in a cage"

but they now follow mma a lot more than boxing. I think mma is shedding its undisciplined image regarding fights an the fighters and fights are getting more technically savvy an people are warning too it more and they also prefer the matchmaking and general attitude of the fighters
Both are still niche sports, but boxing is definitely a minority sport, even here in the uk where it's a big deal, it's still nowhere near as popular as it used to be, or should be
Agreed. When I first saw MMA (many, many years ago) it was sort of what you would expect had WWE been full contact. Now it's much more skill based and structured, in comparison. I can't say where its popularity is at this point, but I know it's a fast growing business.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 15:05
by Ruthless-RKO
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:50
Oiky wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:47
I think boxing is biggest here in the UK, it's also big in Ukraine, Mexico, Russia, USA, but mma is seeing a lot more of a rise too
I know people who hated mma, had no respect for it and called it things like "two men f*cking each other in a cage"

but they now follow mma a lot more than boxing. I think mma is shedding its undisciplined image regarding fights an the fighters and fights are getting more technically savvy an people are warning too it more and they also prefer the matchmaking and general attitude of the fighters
Both are still niche sports, but boxing is definitely a minority sport, even here in the uk where it's a big deal, it's still nowhere near as popular as it used to be, or should be
Agreed. When I first saw MMA (many, many years ago) it was sort of what you would expect had WWE been full contact. Now it's much more skill based and structured, in comparison. I can't say where its popularity is at this point, but I know it's a fast growing business.
Yeh. There was lots of talk it was gonna take out WWE or something. Because it was real wrestling and not scripted. It was never really compared to boxing around that time. I’m talking like 2008-9. Wrestlers were always switching to MMA. Lesnar, Punk, Batista.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 15:10
by Oiky
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:50
Oiky wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:47
I think boxing is biggest here in the UK, it's also big in Ukraine, Mexico, Russia, USA, but mma is seeing a lot more of a rise too
I know people who hated mma, had no respect for it and called it things like "two men f*cking each other in a cage"

but they now follow mma a lot more than boxing. I think mma is shedding its undisciplined image regarding fights an the fighters and fights are getting more technically savvy an people are warning too it more and they also prefer the matchmaking and general attitude of the fighters
Both are still niche sports, but boxing is definitely a minority sport, even here in the uk where it's a big deal, it's still nowhere near as popular as it used to be, or should be
Agreed. When I first saw MMA (many, many years ago) it was sort of what you would expect had WWE been full contact. Now it's much more skill based and structured, in comparison. I can't say where its popularity is at this point, but I know it's a fast growing business.
Yea MMA of today is much more skill based, now there is so many technical fighters about who make "fighting" in the cage look as good, and smooth as a seasoned pugilist does in his boxing ring
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 19:46
by Skalamanga
chuck9788 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 14:02
Skalamanga wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 13:32
Turkey also have never even had a single world champion ever. They have always been terrible at boxing.
Turkish born boxer Avni Yildirim (21-1, 12 KO's) is fighting Anthony Dirrell (32-1-1, 24 KO's) in Minneapolis MN on Feb 23rd ...... It's for the vacant
WBC Super middleweight title.
Selcuk Aydin and Sinan Samil Sam were pretty decent. Atagun Yalcinkaya earned a silver medal in Athens 2004 and went (4-0, 4 KO's) as a pro.
You have VERY low standards if you think they are respectable answers/worth mentioning. None of those were world champions or world class. When those mediocre/poor fighters are your best ever fighters from a country of 80 million that tells you everything.