Anthony Joshua vs. Jarrell Miller - 1 June 2019

[oogiebe]

lets look at some facts bruhs (im not eo btw lol). none of this 'lol youve been blinded by eddeh' crap. lets get down to it bois.

miller is rated top 10 by every major publication or ranking site ive seen so far, so stop with the 'well maybe just maybe he might arguably be barely top 10 at best' waffle:

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in all of these lists, aj has already beaten some of the guys ranked ahead of miller, and of course aj himself takes up one of the rankings

the following guys are just some of who have gotten shots from recent champs but miller hasnt:

duhaupas (beaten by miller), washington (beaten by miller), szpilka, molina (2 shots), andy ruiz, razvan cojanu, brezeale , shot arreola (3 shots), leapai, pianeta, hughie, glazkov, martin, wach, mormeck, browne, totally inactive and fat and undeserving stiverne for his second shot

some of the last few champs best wins when they got there shot:

wilder--malik scott, aud harrison, calvin price
aj-whyte and maybe kev johnson?
fury-hammer and chisora?
valuev--cliff etiene and old larry donald (a questionable decision)
ibragimov-lance whittaker, friday ahunyanya, and zuri lawrence?
liakhovic--friday ahunanya and dom guinn (plus a ko loss to mo harris in between these)

the best wins of other high rated hws:

lol please dont tell me miller simply cant match the overall quality in any of these lists. no list has more then 1 guy defo better then him and in fact id say wlad is the only one who matches that. hed be among the best wins for anyone except maybe aj

wilder: ortiz, stiverne, and maybe duhaupas or scott?
fury: wlad, hammer, and chis?
ortiz: jennings, 46 year old thompson, and kauffman?
parker: takam, ruiz, huggie?
pulev: chisora, hughie, dimitrenko/thompson?
breazeale: mansour, ugonoh, molina?

now fair play to dill whyte for a strong run as a contender. he deserves a shot more then miller but aj already knocked him out so im more interested in miller as someone new

miller is an unbeaten new york boy and the fights in new york
so makes sense there too

the people who think this is some awful sh!tty fight and '@#@#! aj and hearn for this!!' etc are delusional about what sh!tty fights and challengers really are.

It's pretty simple really

There's more than 5 guys with a better record than Miller and who have competed at a higher level than Miller has.

You're just defending Hearn and Joshua blindly as you often tend to do.

Not to be overly argumentative here, but name the five and the wins that put them above "Big Mouth" Miller. I'll spot you two. Fury/Wilder. After you do that, drop the names of those already KO'd by AJ. Then rate the rest and tell me that Miller isn't worthy of a title shot and top 4-5.

[ewenhay]

lets look at some facts bruhs (im not eo btw lol). none of this 'lol youve been blinded by eddeh' crap. lets get down to it bois.

miller is rated top 10 by every major publication or ranking site ive seen so far, so stop with the 'well maybe just maybe he might arguably be barely top 10 at best' waffle:

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in all of these lists, aj has already beaten some of the guys ranked ahead of miller, and of course aj himself takes up one of the rankings

the following guys are just some of who have gotten shots from recent champs but miller hasnt:

duhaupas (beaten by miller), washington (beaten by miller), szpilka, molina (2 shots), andy ruiz, razvan cojanu, brezeale , shot arreola (3 shots), leapai, pianeta, hughie, glazkov, martin, wach, mormeck, browne, totally inactive and fat and undeserving stiverne for his second shot

some of the last few champs best wins when they got there shot:

wilder--malik scott, aud harrison, calvin price
aj-whyte and maybe kev johnson?
fury-hammer and chisora?
valuev--cliff etiene and old larry donald (a questionable decision)
ibragimov-lance whittaker, friday ahunyanya, and zuri lawrence?
liakhovic--friday ahunanya and dom guinn (plus a ko loss to mo harris in between these)

the best wins of other high rated hws:

lol please dont tell me miller simply cant match the overall quality in any of these lists. no list has more then 1 guy defo better then him and in fact id say wlad is the only one who matches that. hed be among the best wins for anyone except maybe aj

wilder: ortiz, stiverne, and maybe duhaupas or scott?
fury: wlad, hammer, and chis?
ortiz: jennings, 46 year old thompson, and kauffman?
parker: takam, ruiz, huggie?
pulev: chisora, hughie, dimitrenko/thompson?
breazeale: mansour, ugonoh, molina?

now fair play to dill whyte for a strong run as a contender. he deserves a shot more then miller but aj already knocked him out so im more interested in miller as someone new

miller is an unbeaten new york boy and the fights in new york
so makes sense there too

the people who think this is some awful sh!tty fight and '@#@#! aj and hearn for this!!' etc are delusional about what sh!tty fights and challengers really are.

It's pretty simple really

There's more than 5 guys with a better record than Miller and who have competed at a higher level than Miller has.

You're just defending Hearn and Joshua blindly as you often tend to do.

Not to be overly argumentative here, but name the five and the wins that put them above "Big Mouth" Miller. I'll spot you two. Fury/Wilder. After you do that, drop the names of those already KO'd by AJ. Then rate the rest and tell me that Miller isn't worthy of a title shot and top 4-5.

Joshua
Wilder
Fury
Whyte
Ortiz
Povetkin
Pulev
Parker

All should be easily ranked above Miller based on their records.

Miller is in the argument with the next bunch imo based on current records

[jamamb]

lets look at some facts bruhs (im not eo btw lol). none of this 'lol youve been blinded by eddeh' crap. lets get down to it bois.

miller is rated top 10 by every major publication or ranking site ive seen so far, so stop with the 'well maybe just maybe he might arguably be barely top 10 at best' waffle:

#6 boxing monthly
#6 boxrec
#6 pbo
#7 espn
#7 transnational rankings board
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in all of these lists, aj has already beaten some of the guys ranked ahead of miller, and of course aj himself takes up one of the rankings

the following guys are just some of who have gotten shots from recent champs but miller hasnt:

duhaupas (beaten by miller), washington (beaten by miller), szpilka, molina (2 shots), andy ruiz, razvan cojanu, brezeale , shot arreola (3 shots), leapai, pianeta, hughie, glazkov, martin, wach, mormeck, browne, totally inactive and fat and undeserving stiverne for his second shot

some of the last few champs best wins when they got there shot:

wilder--malik scott, aud harrison, calvin price
aj-whyte and maybe kev johnson?
fury-hammer and chisora?
valuev--cliff etiene and old larry donald (a questionable decision)
ibragimov-lance whittaker, friday ahunyanya, and zuri lawrence?
liakhovic--friday ahunanya and dom guinn (plus a ko loss to mo harris in between these)

the best wins of other high rated hws:

lol please dont tell me miller simply cant match the overall quality in any of these lists. no list has more then 1 guy defo better then him and in fact id say wlad is the only one who matches that. hed be among the best wins for anyone except maybe aj

wilder: ortiz, stiverne, and maybe duhaupas or scott?
fury: wlad, hammer, and chis?
ortiz: jennings, 46 year old thompson, and kauffman?
parker: takam, ruiz, huggie?
pulev: chisora, hughie, dimitrenko/thompson?
breazeale: mansour, ugonoh, molina?

now fair play to dill whyte for a strong run as a contender. he deserves a shot more then miller but aj already knocked him out so im more interested in miller as someone new

miller is an unbeaten new york boy and the fights in new york
so makes sense there too

the people who think this is some awful sh!tty fight and '@#@#! aj and hearn for this!!' etc are delusional about what sh!tty fights and challengers really are.

It's pretty simple really

There's more than 5 guys with a better record than Miller and who have competed at a higher level than Miller has.

You're just defending Hearn and Joshua blindly as you often tend to do.

lol, what a limp, predictable reply

'waaah, your just blind for eddeh and aj, waaah!'

i posted facts bruh, you posted failure

[oogiebe]

Not to be overly argumentative here, but name the five and the wins that put them above "Big Mouth" Miller. I'll spot you two. Fury/Wilder. After you do that, drop the names of those already KO'd by AJ. Then rate the rest and tell me that Miller isn't worthy of a title shot and top 4-5.

Joshua The Champ
Wilder...Fighting Fury
Fury...Fighting Wilder
Whyte...Fighting Breazeale and Already Been Ko'd by AJ
Ortiz...Fighting Hammer
Povetkin..Already been Ko'd by AJ and in his last fight
Pulev...Horrible matchup and boring fight, and has done less to earn shot than Miller
Parker...Already Been Ko'd by AJ. Rebuilding his career

All should be easily ranked above Miller based on their records.

Miller is in the argument with the next bunch imo based on current records

Comments in red. I'm not agreeing with your rankings, but even still, you'd rank Pulev over Miller? What has Pulev done? And Parker? Lost two of his last three fights. This argument on this thread seemed to me to be about who AJ was fighting and how others have earned the shot more then Miller (who I loathe, BTW). I think the AJ/Miller fight actually makes sense, especially given the alternatives.

[ewenhay]

lets look at some facts bruhs (im not eo btw lol). none of this 'lol youve been blinded by eddeh' crap. lets get down to it bois.

miller is rated top 10 by every major publication or ranking site ive seen so far, so stop with the 'well maybe just maybe he might arguably be barely top 10 at best' waffle:

#6 boxing monthly
#6 boxrec
#6 pbo
#7 espn
#7 transnational rankings board
#8 boxrec forum
#9 the ring
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in all of these lists, aj has already beaten some of the guys ranked ahead of miller, and of course aj himself takes up one of the rankings

the following guys are just some of who have gotten shots from recent champs but miller hasnt:

duhaupas (beaten by miller), washington (beaten by miller), szpilka, molina (2 shots), andy ruiz, razvan cojanu, brezeale , shot arreola (3 shots), leapai, pianeta, hughie, glazkov, martin, wach, mormeck, browne, totally inactive and fat and undeserving stiverne for his second shot

some of the last few champs best wins when they got there shot:

wilder--malik scott, aud harrison, calvin price
aj-whyte and maybe kev johnson?
fury-hammer and chisora?
valuev--cliff etiene and old larry donald (a questionable decision)
ibragimov-lance whittaker, friday ahunyanya, and zuri lawrence?
liakhovic--friday ahunanya and dom guinn (plus a ko loss to mo harris in between these)

the best wins of other high rated hws:

lol please dont tell me miller simply cant match the overall quality in any of these lists. no list has more then 1 guy defo better then him and in fact id say wlad is the only one who matches that. hed be among the best wins for anyone except maybe aj

wilder: ortiz, stiverne, and maybe duhaupas or scott?
fury: wlad, hammer, and chis?
ortiz: jennings, 46 year old thompson, and kauffman?
parker: takam, ruiz, huggie?
pulev: chisora, hughie, dimitrenko/thompson?
breazeale: mansour, ugonoh, molina?

now fair play to dill whyte for a strong run as a contender. he deserves a shot more then miller but aj already knocked him out so im more interested in miller as someone new

miller is an unbeaten new york boy and the fights in new york
so makes sense there too

the people who think this is some awful sh!tty fight and '@#@#! aj and hearn for this!!' etc are delusional about what sh!tty fights and challengers really are.

It's pretty simple really

There's more than 5 guys with a better record than Miller and who have competed at a higher level than Miller has.

You're just defending Hearn and Joshua blindly as you often tend to do.

lol, what a limp, predictable reply

'waaah, your just blind for eddeh and aj, waaah!'

i posted facts bruh, you posted failure

I just posted 8 heavyweights that deserve to be ranked higher than Miller without even debating his merits against any of those outside that list.

5 of the 7 fighters above him have not yet fought Joshua for a world title., So that's 5 fights they could have made before even considering Miller or the guys around him.

What are these facts that you are referring to?

[jamamb]

lets look at some facts bruhs (im not eo btw lol). none of this 'lol youve been blinded by eddeh' crap. lets get down to it bois.

miller is rated top 10 by every major publication or ranking site ive seen so far, so stop with the 'well maybe just maybe he might arguably be barely top 10 at best' waffle:

#6 boxing monthly
#6 boxrec
#6 pbo
#7 espn
#7 transnational rankings board
#8 boxrec forum
#9 the ring
#9 boxing news

in all of these lists, aj has already beaten some of the guys ranked ahead of miller, and of course aj himself takes up one of the rankings

the following guys are just some of who have gotten shots from recent champs but miller hasnt:

duhaupas (beaten by miller), washington (beaten by miller), szpilka, molina (2 shots), andy ruiz, razvan cojanu, brezeale , shot arreola (3 shots), leapai, pianeta, hughie, glazkov, martin, wach, mormeck, browne, totally inactive and fat and undeserving stiverne for his second shot

some of the last few champs best wins when they got there shot:

wilder--malik scott, aud harrison, calvin price
aj-whyte and maybe kev johnson?
fury-hammer and chisora?
valuev--cliff etiene and old larry donald (a questionable decision)
ibragimov-lance whittaker, friday ahunyanya, and zuri lawrence?
liakhovic--friday ahunanya and dom guinn (plus a ko loss to mo harris in between these)

the best wins of other high rated hws:

lol please dont tell me miller simply cant match the overall quality in any of these lists. no list has more then 1 guy defo better then him and in fact id say wlad is the only one who matches that. hed be among the best wins for anyone except maybe aj

wilder: ortiz, stiverne, and maybe duhaupas or scott?
fury: wlad, hammer, and chis?
ortiz: jennings, 46 year old thompson, and kauffman?
parker: takam, ruiz, huggie?
pulev: chisora, hughie, dimitrenko/thompson?
breazeale: mansour, ugonoh, molina?

now fair play to dill whyte for a strong run as a contender. he deserves a shot more then miller but aj already knocked him out so im more interested in miller as someone new

miller is an unbeaten new york boy and the fights in new york
so makes sense there too

the people who think this is some awful sh!tty fight and '@#@#! aj and hearn for this!!' etc are delusional about what sh!tty fights and challengers really are.

It's pretty simple really

There's more than 5 guys with a better record than Miller and who have competed at a higher level than Miller has.

You're just defending Hearn and Joshua blindly as you often tend to do.

lol, what a limp, predictable reply

'waaah, your just blind for eddeh and aj, waaah!'

i posted facts bruh, you posted failure

I just posted 8 heavyweights that deserve to be ranked higher than Miller without even debating his merits against any of those outside that list.

5 of the 7 fighters above him have not yet fought Joshua for a world title., So that's 5 fights they could have made before even considering Miller or the guys around him.

What are these facts that you are referring to?

facts are that miller is a top 10 hw no doubt. look at all the big rankings. your just reaching with this stuff., and thats just one point anyway. miller aside from that easily is deserving when you look at whose actually been getting the shots, who the champs had beaten when they got there shot, and who guys in the division have beaten overall. can you tell me all the guys who if they beat miller wouldnt have that at all as one of there best wins? nah, you havent

aside from that, very fitting opponent for a us debut in new york, millers home town

[Boxerbeetle]

Apparently the April date at Wembley isn’t cancelled after all, it’s just been amended to ‘An Evening With Anthony Joshua’. AJ will do some bag work in the ring, then do a Q&A over the tannoy system.

Tickets start from £500 on StubHub. Selling fast by all accounts, better get in quick.

[Nondescript]

I'm intrigued by the fight. Sure Miller has only really beaten cans or washed up opponents, but he's very heavy, it seems like he can take a shot from looking at his fights, and he's always coming forward.

I'm expecting Joshua to win, but I'm curious to see whether Miller can test AJ in some way at least ie by being durable and by always coming forward and making him uncomfortable.

It would have been better to see Whyte-Miller first though, just to see what Miller could do.

[ewenhay]

lets look at some facts bruhs (im not eo btw lol). none of this 'lol youve been blinded by eddeh' crap. lets get down to it bois.

miller is rated top 10 by every major publication or ranking site ive seen so far, so stop with the 'well maybe just maybe he might arguably be barely top 10 at best' waffle:

#6 boxing monthly
#6 boxrec
#6 pbo
#7 espn
#7 transnational rankings board
#8 boxrec forum
#9 the ring
#9 boxing news

in all of these lists, aj has already beaten some of the guys ranked ahead of miller, and of course aj himself takes up one of the rankings

the following guys are just some of who have gotten shots from recent champs but miller hasnt:

duhaupas (beaten by miller), washington (beaten by miller), szpilka, molina (2 shots), andy ruiz, razvan cojanu, brezeale , shot arreola (3 shots), leapai, pianeta, hughie, glazkov, martin, wach, mormeck, browne, totally inactive and fat and undeserving stiverne for his second shot

some of the last few champs best wins when they got there shot:

wilder--malik scott, aud harrison, calvin price
aj-whyte and maybe kev johnson?
fury-hammer and chisora?
valuev--cliff etiene and old larry donald (a questionable decision)
ibragimov-lance whittaker, friday ahunyanya, and zuri lawrence?
liakhovic--friday ahunanya and dom guinn (plus a ko loss to mo harris in between these)

the best wins of other high rated hws:

lol please dont tell me miller simply cant match the overall quality in any of these lists. no list has more then 1 guy defo better then him and in fact id say wlad is the only one who matches that. hed be among the best wins for anyone except maybe aj

wilder: ortiz, stiverne, and maybe duhaupas or scott?
fury: wlad, hammer, and chis?
ortiz: jennings, 46 year old thompson, and kauffman?
parker: takam, ruiz, huggie?
pulev: chisora, hughie, dimitrenko/thompson?
breazeale: mansour, ugonoh, molina?

now fair play to dill whyte for a strong run as a contender. he deserves a shot more then miller but aj already knocked him out so im more interested in miller as someone new

miller is an unbeaten new york boy and the fights in new york
so makes sense there too

the people who think this is some awful sh!tty fight and '@#@#! aj and hearn for this!!' etc are delusional about what sh!tty fights and challengers really are.

It's pretty simple really

There's more than 5 guys with a better record than Miller and who have competed at a higher level than Miller has.

You're just defending Hearn and Joshua blindly as you often tend to do.

lol, what a limp, predictable reply

'waaah, your just blind for eddeh and aj, waaah!'

i posted facts bruh, you posted failure

I just posted 8 heavyweights that deserve to be ranked higher than Miller without even debating his merits against any of those outside that list.

5 of the 7 fighters above him have not yet fought Joshua for a world title., So that's 5 fights they could have made before even considering Miller or the guys around him.

What are these facts that you are referring to?

facts are that miller is a top 10 hw no doubt. look at all the big rankings. your just reaching with this stuff., and thats just one point anyway. miller aside from that easily is deserving when you look at whose actually been getting the shots, who the champs had beaten when they got there shot, and who guys in the division have beaten overall. can you tell me all the guys who if they beat miller wouldnt have that at all as one of there best wins? nah, you havent

aside from that, very fitting opponent for a us debut in new york, millers home town

Miller is not a top 4, 6 or even probably a top 8 heavyweight based on his record so let's not pretend otherwise.

As I originally said he might scrape into the top ten.

[oogiebe]

I'm intrigued by the fight. Sure Miller has only really beaten cans or washed up opponents, but he's very heavy, it seems like he can take a shot from looking at his fights, and he's always coming forward.

I'm expecting Joshua to win, but I'm curious to see whether Miller can test AJ in some way at least ie by being durable and by always coming forward and making him uncomfortable.

It would have been better to see Whyte-Miller first though, just to see what Miller could do.

Agreed. My biggest opposition is that Miller hasn't come close to fighting on this level yet. He may be ill-prepared in that regard. In for a unpleasant shock.

[ewenhay]

lets look at some facts bruhs (im not eo btw lol). none of this 'lol youve been blinded by eddeh' crap. lets get down to it bois.

miller is rated top 10 by every major publication or ranking site ive seen so far, so stop with the 'well maybe just maybe he might arguably be barely top 10 at best' waffle:

#6 boxing monthly
#6 boxrec
#6 pbo
#7 espn
#7 transnational rankings board
#8 boxrec forum
#9 the ring
#9 boxing news

in all of these lists, aj has already beaten some of the guys ranked ahead of miller, and of course aj himself takes up one of the rankings

the following guys are just some of who have gotten shots from recent champs but miller hasnt:

duhaupas (beaten by miller), washington (beaten by miller), szpilka, molina (2 shots), andy ruiz, razvan cojanu, brezeale , shot arreola (3 shots), leapai, pianeta, hughie, glazkov, martin, wach, mormeck, browne, totally inactive and fat and undeserving stiverne for his second shot

some of the last few champs best wins when they got there shot:

wilder--malik scott, aud harrison, calvin price
aj-whyte and maybe kev johnson?
fury-hammer and chisora?
valuev--cliff etiene and old larry donald (a questionable decision)
ibragimov-lance whittaker, friday ahunyanya, and zuri lawrence?
liakhovic--friday ahunanya and dom guinn (plus a ko loss to mo harris in between these)

the best wins of other high rated hws:

lol please dont tell me miller simply cant match the overall quality in any of these lists. no list has more then 1 guy defo better then him and in fact id say wlad is the only one who matches that. hed be among the best wins for anyone except maybe aj

wilder: ortiz, stiverne, and maybe duhaupas or scott?
fury: wlad, hammer, and chis?
ortiz: jennings, 46 year old thompson, and kauffman?
parker: takam, ruiz, huggie?
pulev: chisora, hughie, dimitrenko/thompson?
breazeale: mansour, ugonoh, molina?

now fair play to dill whyte for a strong run as a contender. he deserves a shot more then miller but aj already knocked him out so im more interested in miller as someone new

miller is an unbeaten new york boy and the fights in new york
so makes sense there too

the people who think this is some awful sh!tty fight and '@#@#! aj and hearn for this!!' etc are delusional about what sh!tty fights and challengers really are.

It's pretty simple really

There's more than 5 guys with a better record than Miller and who have competed at a higher level than Miller has.

You're just defending Hearn and Joshua blindly as you often tend to do.

lol, what a limp, predictable reply

'waaah, your just blind for eddeh and aj, waaah!'

i posted facts bruh, you posted failure

I just posted 8 heavyweights that deserve to be ranked higher than Miller without even debating his merits against any of those outside that list.

5 of the 7 fighters above him have not yet fought Joshua for a world title., So that's 5 fights they could have made before even considering Miller or the guys around him.

What are these facts that you are referring to?

facts are that miller is a top 10 hw no doubt. look at all the big rankings. your just reaching with this stuff., and thats just one point anyway. miller aside from that easily is deserving when you look at whose actually been getting the shots, who the champs had beaten when they got there shot, and who guys in the division have beaten overall. can you tell me all the guys who if they beat miller wouldnt have that at all as one of there best wins? nah, you havent

aside from that, very fitting opponent for a us debut in new york, millers home town

Where are the facts there.? That's almost entirely your own personal opinion.

[jamamb]

I'm intrigued by the fight. Sure Miller has only really beaten cans or washed up opponents, but he's very heavy, it seems like he can take a shot from looking at his fights, and he's always coming forward.

I'm expecting Joshua to win, but I'm curious to see whether Miller can test AJ in some way at least ie by being durable and by always coming forward and making him uncomfortable.

It would have been better to see Whyte-Miller first though, just to see what Miller could do.

"well looks like eddeh mustve brainwashed you mate, the only non blinded ppl are those who constantly slate aj and what aj does. Now here I go dancing around another question."-- ewenhay

[jamamb]

lets look at some facts bruhs (im not eo btw lol). none of this 'lol youve been blinded by eddeh' crap. lets get down to it bois.

miller is rated top 10 by every major publication or ranking site ive seen so far, so stop with the 'well maybe just maybe he might arguably be barely top 10 at best' waffle:

#6 boxing monthly
#6 boxrec
#6 pbo
#7 espn
#7 transnational rankings board
#8 boxrec forum
#9 the ring
#9 boxing news

in all of these lists, aj has already beaten some of the guys ranked ahead of miller, and of course aj himself takes up one of the rankings

the following guys are just some of who have gotten shots from recent champs but miller hasnt:

duhaupas (beaten by miller), washington (beaten by miller), szpilka, molina (2 shots), andy ruiz, razvan cojanu, brezeale , shot arreola (3 shots), leapai, pianeta, hughie, glazkov, martin, wach, mormeck, browne, totally inactive and fat and undeserving stiverne for his second shot

some of the last few champs best wins when they got there shot:

wilder--malik scott, aud harrison, calvin price
aj-whyte and maybe kev johnson?
fury-hammer and chisora?
valuev--cliff etiene and old larry donald (a questionable decision)
ibragimov-lance whittaker, friday ahunyanya, and zuri lawrence?
liakhovic--friday ahunanya and dom guinn (plus a ko loss to mo harris in between these)

the best wins of other high rated hws:

lol please dont tell me miller simply cant match the overall quality in any of these lists. no list has more then 1 guy defo better then him and in fact id say wlad is the only one who matches that. hed be among the best wins for anyone except maybe aj

wilder: ortiz, stiverne, and maybe duhaupas or scott?
fury: wlad, hammer, and chis?
ortiz: jennings, 46 year old thompson, and kauffman?
parker: takam, ruiz, huggie?
pulev: chisora, hughie, dimitrenko/thompson?
breazeale: mansour, ugonoh, molina?

now fair play to dill whyte for a strong run as a contender. he deserves a shot more then miller but aj already knocked him out so im more interested in miller as someone new

miller is an unbeaten new york boy and the fights in new york
so makes sense there too

the people who think this is some awful sh!tty fight and '@#@#! aj and hearn for this!!' etc are delusional about what sh!tty fights and challengers really are.

It's pretty simple really

There's more than 5 guys with a better record than Miller and who have competed at a higher level than Miller has.

You're just defending Hearn and Joshua blindly as you often tend to do.

lol, what a limp, predictable reply

'waaah, your just blind for eddeh and aj, waaah!'

i posted facts bruh, you posted failure

I just posted 8 heavyweights that deserve to be ranked higher than Miller without even debating his merits against any of those outside that list.

5 of the 7 fighters above him have not yet fought Joshua for a world title., So that's 5 fights they could have made before even considering Miller or the guys around him.

What are these facts that you are referring to?

facts are that miller is a top 10 hw no doubt. look at all the big rankings. your just reaching with this stuff., and thats just one point anyway. miller aside from that easily is deserving when you look at whose actually been getting the shots, who the champs had beaten when they got there shot, and who guys in the division have beaten overall. can you tell me all the guys who if they beat miller wouldnt have that at all as one of there best wins? nah, you havent

aside from that, very fitting opponent for a us debut in new york, millers home town

Where are the facts there.? That's almost entirely your own personal opinion.

tell me where there wrong then, ewey boy.

and stop ducking the question, for which active hws would miller not at all be in there list of there top wins?

[ewenhay]

I'm intrigued by the fight. Sure Miller has only really beaten cans or washed up opponents, but he's very heavy, it seems like he can take a shot from looking at his fights, and he's always coming forward.

I'm expecting Joshua to win, but I'm curious to see whether Miller can test AJ in some way at least ie by being durable and by always coming forward and making him uncomfortable.

It would have been better to see Whyte-Miller first though, just to see what Miller could do.

"well looks like eddeh mustve brainwashed you mate, the only non blinded ppl are those who constantly slate aj and what aj does. Now here I go dancing around another question."-- ewenhay

Calm down. You're embarrassing yourself now.

I'm not against the fight we are where we are. And as a sensible poster said it will be interesting to see what level Miller is at. Might even be a chance for him to improve his ranking even if he loses.

You're the only one desperate to convince us that this is a great fight. It's not anywhere near the best fight out there. There are at least 5 better ranked opponents that he hasn't faced for the World title yet.

[jamamb]

not saying its a great fight at all, just dont get some of the backlash or commentary of it being a poor fight, think thats totally off the mark

i have no shame my boy so if im embarassing myself so be it

[ewenhay]

I'm intrigued by the fight. Sure Miller has only really beaten cans or washed up opponents, but he's very heavy, it seems like he can take a shot from looking at his fights, and he's always coming forward.

I'm expecting Joshua to win, but I'm curious to see whether Miller can test AJ in some way at least ie by being durable and by always coming forward and making him uncomfortable.

It would have been better to see Whyte-Miller first though, just to see what Miller could do.

"well looks like eddeh mustve brainwashed you mate, the only non blinded ppl are those who constantly slate aj and what aj does. Now here I go dancing around another question."-- ewenhay

You're just behaving like a wee spoilt child now.

Keep it civil.

[jamamb]

props on the double quote bruh

[oogiebe]

I just posted 8 heavyweights that deserve to be ranked higher than Miller without even debating his merits against any of those outside that list.

5 of the 7 fighters above him have not yet fought Joshua for a world title., So that's 5 fights they could have made before even considering Miller or the guys around him.

What are these facts that you are referring to?

facts are that miller is a top 10 hw no doubt. look at all the big rankings. your just reaching with this stuff., and thats just one point anyway. miller aside from that easily is deserving when you look at whose actually been getting the shots, who the champs had beaten when they got there shot, and who guys in the division have beaten overall. can you tell me all the guys who if they beat miller wouldnt have that at all as one of there best wins? nah, you havent

aside from that, very fitting opponent for a us debut in new york, millers home town

Miller is not a top 4, 6 or even probably a top 8 heavyweight based on his record so let's not pretend otherwise.

As I originally said he might scrape into the top ten.

You listed eight fighters including AJ. So seven possible opponents.
Three have already been kayoed vs AJ (Whyte/Pov/Parker).
Two are fighting each other (Wilder Fury).
That leaves Ortiz and Pulev.
Pulev has done shvt to earn a shot
and Ortiz is fighting Hammer.
Fighting Miller in America is a fine matchup. Regarding the ranking, the best I can do to 'compromise" is to put Whyte and Pov above Miller but that's about it, outside of Fury/Wilder.

[ewenhay]

I just posted 8 heavyweights that deserve to be ranked higher than Miller without even debating his merits against any of those outside that list.

5 of the 7 fighters above him have not yet fought Joshua for a world title., So that's 5 fights they could have made before even considering Miller or the guys around him.

What are these facts that you are referring to?

facts are that miller is a top 10 hw no doubt. look at all the big rankings. your just reaching with this stuff., and thats just one point anyway. miller aside from that easily is deserving when you look at whose actually been getting the shots, who the champs had beaten when they got there shot, and who guys in the division have beaten overall. can you tell me all the guys who if they beat miller wouldnt have that at all as one of there best wins? nah, you havent

aside from that, very fitting opponent for a us debut in new york, millers home town

Miller is not a top 4, 6 or even probably a top 8 heavyweight based on his record so let's not pretend otherwise.

As I originally said he might scrape into the top ten.

You listed eight fighters including AJ. So seven possible opponents.
Three have already been kayoed vs AJ (Whyte/Pov/Parker).
Two are fighting each other (Wilder Fury).
That leaves Ortiz and Pulev.
Pulev has done shvt to earn a shot
and Ortiz is fighting Hammer.
Fighting Miller in America is a fine matchup. Regarding the ranking, the best I can do to 'compromise" is to put Whyte and Pov above Miller but that's about it, outside of Fury/Wilder.

We're not going to agree on this one and that's fine.

I think the previous Whyte fight doesn't count as it wasn't for a world title and its unfair to bar Whyte from a title shot based on a defeat in a non title fight earlier in both of their careers.

They had plenty of chance to make a fight with Wilder and Fury too. That fight hasn't been announced yet.

Ortiz fight could easily have been made and they almost fought Pulev before Takam stepped in so that could have been made.

Other than that facing Miller in NYC makes sense. We don't know what level Miller is at though. You admit yourself he hasn't mixed at a decent level. He may prove himself to be a top heavyweight but he hasn't so far.

[oogiebe]

I just posted 8 heavyweights that deserve to be ranked higher than Miller without even debating his merits against any of those outside that list.

5 of the 7 fighters above him have not yet fought Joshua for a world title., So that's 5 fights they could have made before even considering Miller or the guys around him.

What are these facts that you are referring to?

facts are that miller is a top 10 hw no doubt. look at all the big rankings. your just reaching with this stuff., and thats just one point anyway. miller aside from that easily is deserving when you look at whose actually been getting the shots, who the champs had beaten when they got there shot, and who guys in the division have beaten overall. can you tell me all the guys who if they beat miller wouldnt have that at all as one of there best wins? nah, you havent

aside from that, very fitting opponent for a us debut in new york, millers home town

Miller is not a top 4, 6 or even probably a top 8 heavyweight based on his record so let's not pretend otherwise.

As I originally said he might scrape into the top ten.

You listed eight fighters including AJ. So seven possible opponents.
Three have already been kayoed vs AJ (Whyte/Pov/Parker).
Two are fighting each other (Wilder Fury).
That leaves Ortiz and Pulev.
Pulev has done shvt to earn a shot
and Ortiz is fighting Hammer.
Fighting Miller in America is a fine matchup. Regarding the ranking, the best I can do to 'compromise" is to put Whyte and Pov above Miller but that's about it, outside of Fury/Wilder.

We're not going to agree on this one and that's fine.

I think the previous Whyte fight doesn't count as it wasn't for a world title and its unfair to bar Whyte from a title shot based on a defeat in a non title fight earlier in both of their careers.

They had plenty of chance to make a fight with Wilder and Fury too. That fight hasn't been announced yet.

Ortiz fight could easily have been made and they almost fought Pulev before Takam stepped in so that could have been made.
Other than that facing Miller in NYC makes sense. We don't know what level Miller is at though. You admit yourself he hasn't mixed at a decent level. He may prove himself to be a top heavyweight but he hasn't so far.

I agree. I've never vehemently disagreed with you, just that Miller seems to be the only logical foe for AJ right now, given that Fury/Wilder happens, and that he's a top 10. For the record, I'm no AJ fan and I hate Miller, so seeing Miller get his arse whupped is ok by me!

[Wa1nuts]

I just posted 8 heavyweights that deserve to be ranked higher than Miller without even debating his merits against any of those outside that list.

5 of the 7 fighters above him have not yet fought Joshua for a world title., So that's 5 fights they could have made before even considering Miller or the guys around him.

What are these facts that you are referring to?

facts are that miller is a top 10 hw no doubt. look at all the big rankings. your just reaching with this stuff., and thats just one point anyway. miller aside from that easily is deserving when you look at whose actually been getting the shots, who the champs had beaten when they got there shot, and who guys in the division have beaten overall. can you tell me all the guys who if they beat miller wouldnt have that at all as one of there best wins? nah, you havent

aside from that, very fitting opponent for a us debut in new york, millers home town

Miller is not a top 4, 6 or even probably a top 8 heavyweight based on his record so let's not pretend otherwise.

As I originally said he might scrape into the top ten.

You listed eight fighters including AJ. So seven possible opponents.
Three have already been kayoed vs AJ (Whyte/Pov/Parker).
Two are fighting each other (Wilder Fury).
That leaves Ortiz and Pulev.
Pulev has done shvt to earn a shot
and Ortiz is fighting Hammer.
Fighting Miller in America is a fine matchup. Regarding the ranking, the best I can do to 'compromise" is to put Whyte and Pov above Miller but that's about it, outside of Fury/Wilder.

But couldn't have the fight got made against the people above him before they were in other fights? Fact is Ajs greed has got in the way

Parker wasn't kod either

Its a weak division at the end of the day if fighters are being greedy there's only so many good fights that can be made

[ewenhay]

I just posted 8 heavyweights that deserve to be ranked higher than Miller without even debating his merits against any of those outside that list.

5 of the 7 fighters above him have not yet fought Joshua for a world title., So that's 5 fights they could have made before even considering Miller or the guys around him.

What are these facts that you are referring to?

facts are that miller is a top 10 hw no doubt. look at all the big rankings. your just reaching with this stuff., and thats just one point anyway. miller aside from that easily is deserving when you look at whose actually been getting the shots, who the champs had beaten when they got there shot, and who guys in the division have beaten overall. can you tell me all the guys who if they beat miller wouldnt have that at all as one of there best wins? nah, you havent

aside from that, very fitting opponent for a us debut in new york, millers home town

Miller is not a top 4, 6 or even probably a top 8 heavyweight based on his record so let's not pretend otherwise.

As I originally said he might scrape into the top ten.

You listed eight fighters including AJ. So seven possible opponents.
Three have already been kayoed vs AJ (Whyte/Pov/Parker).
Two are fighting each other (Wilder Fury).
That leaves Ortiz and Pulev.
Pulev has done shvt to earn a shot
and Ortiz is fighting Hammer.
Fighting Miller in America is a fine matchup. Regarding the ranking, the best I can do to 'compromise" is to put Whyte and Pov above Miller but that's about it, outside of Fury/Wilder.

We're not going to agree on this one and that's fine.

I think the previous Whyte fight doesn't count as it wasn't for a world title and its unfair to bar Whyte from a title shot based on a defeat in a non title fight earlier in both of their careers.

They had plenty of chance to make a fight with Wilder and Fury too. That fight hasn't been announced yet.

Ortiz fight could easily have been made and they almost fought Pulev before Takam stepped in so that could have been made.
Other than that facing Miller in NYC makes sense. We don't know what level Miller is at though. You admit yourself he hasn't mixed at a decent level. He may prove himself to be a top heavyweight but he hasn't so far.

I agree. I've never vehemently disagreed with you, just that Miller seems to be the only logical foe for AJ right now, given that Fury/Wilder happens, and that he's a top 10. For the record, I'm no AJ fan and I hate Miller, so seeing Miller get his arse whupped is ok by me!

Well, you've probably gathered that I'm no Hearn fan and I'm not bought into the Joshua hype either. He's a big lump who'll take a bit of shifting though.

I think I want Miller to win. Though I'd be shocked if he did.

[oogiebe]

Hearn = Promoter = Lying bag of shvt

[tony1234]

Apparently the April date at Wembley isn’t cancelled after all, it’s just been amended to ‘An Evening With Anthony Joshua’. AJ will do some bag work in the ring, then do a Q&A over the tannoy system.

Tickets start from £500 on StubHub. Selling fast by all accounts, better get in quick.

Will it be on SKY PPV too ?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Apparently the April date at Wembley isn’t cancelled after all, it’s just been amended to ‘An Evening With Anthony Joshua’. AJ will do some bag work in the ring, then do a Q&A over the tannoy system.

Tickets start from £500 on StubHub. Selling fast by all accounts, better get in quick.

Will it be on SKY PPV too ?

Lmfaoo!