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oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 17:17 An interesting perspective from Boxing Squared was that Hayman is behind the decline so he can hold onto the WBC belt in the PBC family for as long as possible. (I.E. Wilder vs Ortiz). I don't know, but if Ortiz was offered anything north of $3 million, it's just plain stupid.

eddehs fault if thats true

jamamb wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 17:56 eddehs fault if thats true

Right.

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 17:49 Interesting point of view. It takes more to slog fight after fight I agree and actually earn that shot. Yup.

It’s a pretty unique job when accepting an offer of a career high payday and a chance at your end goal is worthy of applause.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 17:59 It’s a pretty unique job when accepting an offer of a career high payday and a chance at your end goal is worthy of applause.

Almost like winning the Nobel Peace Prize for winning the lottery!

punchoutsb wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 17:48 I always thought it was strange to give applause for someone accepting an undeserved best deal of their life. It takes cojones to be a pro fighter; accepting a career high payday and a shot at every fighters ultimate goal takes a single brain cell.

And yet the call was/is answered by so few.

So six, seven fighters get the call, get the chance to step in and step up...

How do you not applaud the guy that goes in there and actually does it?

Because a half dozen guys didn’t. You applaud them?

Contendeh wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 19:00 And yet the call was/is answered by so few.

So six, seven fighters get the call, get the chance to step in and step up...

How do you not applaud the guy that goes in there and actually does it?

Because a half dozen guys didn’t. You applaud them?

I generally applaud undeserved gifts around Christmas for my little nephews, but not year round and certainly not for combat athletes. Just because this sport is rife with divas I don’t think it’s necessary to make a hero out of someone doing something that is literally the only reason to do that thing.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 19:56 I generally applaud undeserved gifts around Christmas for my little nephews, but not year round and certainly not for combat athletes. Just because this sport is rife with divas I don’t think it’s necessary to make a hero out of someone doing something that is literally the only reason to do that thing.

You must have one short list of fighters “worthy” of your praise then!

And nobody is making a hero out of Hunter yet.

Contendeh wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 20:06 You must have one short list of fighters “worthy” of your praise then!

And nobody is making a hero out of Hunter yet.

I just get riled sometimes by how entitled some fighters feel. It’s virtually unheard of in any profession to expect praise for accepting a gift of a chance to be the best in your field and a career high pay day.

“Would you like a chance to interview for the position of CEO for the number one company in your field and a onetime check for more money than you’ve made in your entire life just for going to the interview?”

“Sure”

“Wow! That’s totally unexpected and legendary!”

punchoutsb wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 20:18 I just get riled sometimes by how entitled some fighters feel. It’s virtually unheard of in any profession to expect praise for accepting a gift of a chance to be the best in your field and a career high pay day.

“Would you like a chance to interview for the position of CEO for the number one company in your field and a onetime check for more money than you’ve made in your entire life just for going to the interview?”

“Sure”

“Wow! That’s totally unexpected and legendary!”

Right. Then we’re more or less in agreement.

So when a bunch of ceo candidates are making excuses, saying they can’t prep for the interview or the job doesn’t *initially* pay enough, you got to say that the guy that actually shows up is a cut above.

Plus, he’s one little dude.

Contendeh wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 20:35 Right. Then we’re more or less in agreement.

So when a bunch of ceo candidates are making excuses, saying they can’t prep for the interview or the job doesn’t *initially* pay enough, you got to say that the guy that actually shows up is a cut above.

Plus, he’s one little dude.

If it happened frequently outside of boxing then you’d have a point, but it doesn’t. I don’t deny there are divas in boxing, but it still doesn’t necessitate applauding someone’s cajones for simply agreeing to perform the work they are paid to do.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 20:41 If it happened frequently outside of boxing then you’d have a point, but it doesn’t. I don’t deny there are divas in boxing, but it still doesn’t necessitate applauding someone’s cajones for simply agreeing to perform the work they are paid to do.

Unless you can get paid not to do it...which seems to be endemic on the heavyweight scene.

Got to reward the ones who do, cause a bunch aren’t.

It’d be different if everyone was clamoring.

Also, Hunter is really a 200lb guy.

100% This will ba a MISMATCH if it goes ahead

ClivePatrickLyons wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 21:33 100% This will ba a MISMATCH if it goes ahead

Outside of Wilder and Ortiz, who really isn't at this point?

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 21:38 Outside of Wilder and Ortiz, who really isn't at this point?

Sad, but true..............

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Apr 2019, 21:38 Outside of Wilder and Ortiz, who really isn't at this point?

Hunter is ranked #20 by Boxrec. How about like everybody above him? How about Pulev?

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 13:10 Hunter is ranked #20 by Boxrec. How about like everybody above him? How about Pulev?

LOL! Unfortunately (or fortunately) I don't think Pulev's cut would heal in time.

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 13:10 Hunter is ranked #20 by Boxrec. How about like everybody above him? How about Pulev?

On top of the cut. His suspension in California would not allow him to obtain a license in New York

Boksgek wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 13:59 Not on the UK and in America people only streamed it anyway

I was never talking about the UK. In America a bit over 300,000 paid about 60 pounds for it. Odd you came up with that number. I guess you're just aimlessly rambling. Carry on, thanks for quoting me.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 13:38 On top of the cut. His suspension in California would not allow him to obtain a license in New York

Really? NYSAC would honor that?

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 14:49 Really? NYSAC would honor that?

Yes I re as this on 2 different forums the provided a link to what essentially called it reciprocating agreement between athletic commissions
Whatever that freaking means

tiny_acres wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 14:51 Yes I re as this on 2 different forums the provided a link to what essentially called it reciprocating agreement between athletic commissions
Whatever that freaking means

I didn't know that NYSAC had that in place. Surprised they have it with California. I think I knew they had it with Nevada.

Boksgek wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 15:13 Wow, that's about a quarter of what Parker achieved in the UK.

Nobody has ever paid for an aj fight here. About 10,000 signed up for a free trial for povetkin.

Boksgek wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 15:13 Wow, that's about a quarter of what Parker achieved in the UK.

If you figure total revenue it's about even to one million UK views. We pay 79.99 PPV.

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 15:18 If you figure total revenue it's about even to one million UK views. We pay 79.99 PPV.

Exactly, totally different pricing. 1,000,000 buys is a huge number here.

Would be interesting to see how many people would buy a ppv in the UK for £70.00.

Or what difference a price of $25.00 would make to the number of buys in the USA

ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 18:13 Exactly, totally different pricing. 1,000,000 buys is a huge number here.

Would be interesting to see how many people would buy a ppv in the UK for £70.00.

Or what difference a price of $25.00 would make to the number of buys in the USA

At $25.00 I'm buying PPV's left and right here in the States. At 79.99 I'm waiting for Wilder/AJ; Spence/Crawford; Loma/Garcia (maybe); etc.