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Re: Can we stop exaggerating the importance of height & muscle now?
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 19:31
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 19:23
lol not at all, i know you were calling iron beard upset to when he seems elated, i dont know why you keep thinking ppl are angered or something

you called me butt stung the other day too just for asking how andy compares to past aj opponents, stop snowflaking
i just dont get the glee in bumping threads to say haha!! to totally fringe opinions, like who is proud enough of that to gives a sh!t
i guarantee you that pretty much no one at all here was saying height and muscle is everything
It's funny shvt. Kalen was forum gold! You just don't like that it's pointed at AJ. I've seen you chime in and poke fun and downright challenge mightily other posters, giving some a very hard time and then giving a laughing emoji on top of it. Now you say you're not upset but your posts say something else. Did I specify you on the butt sting comment? If you don't care, why are you mocking so many posters since Saturday's fight? Why all the sarcasm about AJ's BIG 1 on his resume? Hmmm...butt hurt?

You're a good poster Jam, just lighten up and don't take it so personally.
Re: Can we stop exaggerating the importance of height & muscle now?
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 19:36
by jamamb
lol i wud never care enough to bump threads or create them to 'haha!' at trolls like that, its not some big victory and hardly anyone believed it either
do you think 1 loss means finished? if not then you agree with me too, the value placed in an 0 is totally overdone yet then ppl over and over again show us why being unbeatens so important these days, 1 loss for the previous top guy and suddenly hes done, doesnt want boxing any moar, was exposed as always a fraud, etc
no idea why you keep reading anger or butt hurt in ppls posts (of course that was directed at me, lol you were like the 2nd post or something), dont be so sensitive about that mate, its all good fun and posting

Re: Can we stop exaggerating the importance of height & muscle now?
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 19:41
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 19:36
lol i wud never care enough to bump threads to 'haha!' at trolls like that, its not some big victory
do you think 1 loss means finished? if not then you agree with me too, the value placed in an 0 is totally overdone yet then ppl over and over again show us why being unbeatens so important these days
no idea why you keep reading anger or butt hurt in ppls posts, dont be so sensitive about that mate
I don't think he's done unless he wants to be. HE's the same fighter he was before. He has the same accomplishments he had before. Ruiz is better than we all thought and exposed some flaws that good training work (and maybe a new trainer) can correct. I had posted that maybe AJ losing could turn out to be a positive thing for him. He doesn't have to be concerned with a zero anymore, although I'm still concerned about his stamina issues he showed. I grew up in Ali/Norton/frazier/Foreman so plenty of losses there that don't diminish their greatness.
So I think I understand, it's not the loss, it's the reactions that are getting you frustrated. I stand corrected and thank you for explaining that to me. But really...Kalen was epic!!!
Re: Can we stop exaggerating the importance of height & muscle now?
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 19:44
by ironbeard
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 19:25
When Ruiz lost to Parker he was still being trained by non-Abel Sanchez. With Robles in his corner (two fights now) he's a different fighter. No one is talking about that. All but a handful of us underestimated Ruiz. None of us took the change in trainers into consideration. It's hindsight on my part, but it's made a big difference. I don't buy into all the BS triangulation of who can beat who now, because it's meaningless.
Ruiz claimed at the post fight press conference that he trained himself for the Parker fight.
Re: Can we stop exaggerating the importance of height & muscle now?
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 19:55
by oogiebe
ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 19:44
Ruiz claimed at the post fight press conference that he trained himself for the Parker fight.
Point is that he wasn't under Robles' direction.
Re: Can we stop exaggerating the importance of height & muscle now?
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 21:14
by ironbeard
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 19:55
Point is that he wasn't under Robles' direction.
It was just an fyi.
Re: Can we stop exaggerating the importance of height & muscle now?
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 21:29
by oogiebe
ironbeard wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 21:14
It was just an fyi.
Same. LOL!
Re: Can we stop exaggerating the importance of height & muscle now?
Posted: 04 Jun 2019, 11:38
by BroughtonRulesRefuge
overhand_right wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 23:45
A guy with Butterbean's physique and who is barely 6 feet tall just squashed the most awesome physique the heavyweight division has ever seen.
Talent and fundamentals trump 6'6'' big punching body beautifuls.
- Yeah, so you create yet another thread exaggerating height and muscle is it now?
Watching you monkey sees and doos ape each other's jibbering gibberchatter while slinging shhh takes me back to my collegiate glory days when I worked nights at the state hospital before classes.
My housemate had three monkeys he kept in the back yard in a small cage. He wanted to achieve a breeding ratio of 13 females for Desmond to successfully breed with, so we went in with him and I built a bigger outdoor cage for them that was a great success for breeding. I'd get off work for home and fry up some breakfast tacos and then take my beer outside where we had a lounge area to watch the monkey shines that were always great stuff. Nothing like seeing monkey laws played out with Desmond the King of all Monkeys. Take my buds and dates out for a looksee for guaranteed guffaws.
Yes, we can sympathize with the pain you must feel in your bubblegum baboon keister knowing since the 1990s to 2019 heavies 6-5 and taller have dominated the heavies. End of the day AJ already a record setting heavyweight in the books and guaranteed HOFer, so I'm sure you can find a veterinarian specializing in monkey proctology to assuage your arrears.

Re: Can we stop exaggerating the importance of height & muscle now?
Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 08:56
by stujones
Slightly off topic - if Ruiz fought Fury - I'm just thinking back when was the last time we had both fighters who don't look like fighters involved for a "proper" Heavyweight title fight.
Re: Can we stop exaggerating the importance of height & muscle now?
Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 08:59
by leejonesjnr
stujones wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 08:56
Slightly off topic - if Ruiz fought Fury - I'm just thinking back when was the last time we had both fighters who don't look like fighters involved for a "proper" Heavyweight title fight.
Fury v Wilder is you allow a clip of Wilder throwing any punch ever apart from the one that stopped Brezeale.
Re: Can we stop exaggerating the importance of height & muscle now?
Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 09:01
by stujones
leejonesjnr wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 08:59
Fury v Wilder is you allow a clip of Wilder throwing any punch ever apart from the one that stopped Brezeale.
Oh yes, Wilder is no boxer, I did mean though at the weigh in etc. Wilder looks like he trains at least.
Re: Can we stop exaggerating the importance of height & muscle now?
Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 11:17
by overhand_right
stujones wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 08:56
Slightly off topic - if Ruiz fought Fury - I'm just thinking back when was the last time we had both fighters who don't look like fighters involved for a "proper" Heavyweight title fight.
Greg Page vs Tony Tubbs? Though Tubbs was by his standards in shape for that one.
Re: Can we stop exaggerating the importance of height & muscle now?
Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 11:22
by stujones
overhand_right wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 11:17
Greg Page vs Tony Tubbs? Though Tubbs was by his standards in shape for that one.
Holmes wasn't a body beautiful also for most of his career, so we had him and Witherspoon. But I cannot think of any time in the 90s and beyond where there was 2 pies (as Shannon calls them) fighting each other. I'm not counting Bugner vs Bonecrusher.