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Tarkus wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 15:07 I would be surprised if Povetkin accepts the fight on such a short turnaround. An older man needs more tome to rest and recover. If I were Povetkin I would pushing it back to February next year.

And so he did.

Don't know why people want to see Whtye - Chisroa 3 on such short notice, Chisora was blowing out of his a** after 3 rounds. Rather they wait to be honest. Enough PPV on recently.

If stories of being hospitalised are true then even late January could be too soon to be fully fight ready for Sasha.

Wishing him and full and speedy recovery.

knockout wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 14:40 If stories of being hospitalised are true then even late January could be too soon to be fully fight ready for Sasha.

Wishing him and full and speedy recovery.

That’s what I was thinking- surely the hospitalisation bit can’t be right? Loads of sportsmen have had Covid and been back in training within a couple of weeks, don’t think any of them have even been close to being hospitalised. And if the hospitalisation is right, how could he realistically be ready to fight in Jan?

Should be Whyte Vs Mike Hunter IMO.

Winner can rematch Povetkin in Jan.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 13:15

ash_ wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 12:21 Presume they'll do Benn v Formella as main event and chuck Dave Allen on the card for a few extra viewers.

Benn was saying the card is still going ahead..

Will Whyte still fight? Who could he fight?

Christopher Lovejoy

Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 15:52 Should be Whyte Vs Mike Hunter IMO.

Winner can rematch Povetkin in Jan.

Yes a shame Hunter wasn’t offered Fury or Whyte

It would’ve been a flash on inspiration; too good to be true

Most feel Hunter beat Povetkin in their decent scrap & he can claim to giving Usyk one of his very toughest fights (as a cruiserweight)

Autobarn wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 15:59

Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 15:52 Should be Whyte Vs Mike Hunter IMO.

Winner can rematch Povetkin in Jan.

Yes a shame Hunter wasn’t offered Fury or Whyte

It would’ve been a flash on inspiration; too good to be true

Most feel Hunter beat Povetkin in their decent scrap & he can claim to giving Usyk one of his very toughest fights (as a cruiserweight)

Doesn’t help that Hunter left Matchroom. Not that he can’t still work with them.

Oh, I didn’t know. That’d explain the prominence of Povetkin, who officially got a draw with him, on the U.K. scene.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 14:45

knockout wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 14:40 If stories of being hospitalised are true then even late January could be too soon to be fully fight ready for Sasha.

Wishing him and full and speedy recovery.

That’s what I was thinking- surely the hospitalisation bit can’t be right? Loads of sportsmen have had Covid and been back in training within a couple of weeks, don’t think any of them have even been close to being hospitalised. And if the hospitalisation is right, how could he realistically be ready to fight in Jan?

It's a very unpredictable virus in its effects. I was back at work within a week and back to normal within a few weeks, whilst my wife was not that ill at first but has subsequently ended up with a host of problems from it which are still there eight months later. Some healthy people are asymptomatic and others die.

dookus wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 07:19

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 14:45

knockout wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 14:40 If stories of being hospitalised are true then even late January could be too soon to be fully fight ready for Sasha.

Wishing him and full and speedy recovery.

That’s what I was thinking- surely the hospitalisation bit can’t be right? Loads of sportsmen have had Covid and been back in training within a couple of weeks, don’t think any of them have even been close to being hospitalised. And if the hospitalisation is right, how could he realistically be ready to fight in Jan?

It's a very unpredictable virus in its effects. I was back at work within a week and back to normal within a few weeks, whilst my wife was not that ill at first but has subsequently ended up with a host of problems from it which are still there eight months later. Some healthy people are asymptomatic and others die.

Of course, I wasn’t saying it was impossible for him to be in hospital as I know it affects people very differently. I just meant that it would be very unusual for a sportsman to be hospitalised for it, and if that had happened then surely he wouldn’t be ready to fight in a couple of months?

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 08:41

dookus wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 07:19

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 14:45

That’s what I was thinking- surely the hospitalisation bit can’t be right? Loads of sportsmen have had Covid and been back in training within a couple of weeks, don’t think any of them have even been close to being hospitalised. And if the hospitalisation is right, how could he realistically be ready to fight in Jan?

It's a very unpredictable virus in its effects. I was back at work within a week and back to normal within a few weeks, whilst my wife was not that ill at first but has subsequently ended up with a host of problems from it which are still there eight months later. Some healthy people are asymptomatic and others die.

Of course, I wasn’t saying it was impossible for him to be in hospital as I know it affects people very differently. I just meant that it would be very unusual for a sportsman to be hospitalised for it, and if that had happened then surely he wouldn’t be ready to fight in a couple of months?

Apparently there have been a few - the New York Times interviewed some of them: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/spor ... letes.html

You're quite right, though, if he's been hospitalised with it then a January fight is hopelessly optimistic.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 13:15

ash_ wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 12:21 Presume they'll do Benn v Formella as main event and chuck Dave Allen on the card for a few extra viewers.

Benn was saying the card is still going ahead..

Will Whyte still fight? Who could he fight?

I could see him bringing out his new signing Zhilei Zhang.

dookus wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 09:49

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 08:41

dookus wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 07:19 It's a very unpredictable virus in its effects. I was back at work within a week and back to normal within a few weeks, whilst my wife was not that ill at first but has subsequently ended up with a host of problems from it which are still there eight months later. Some healthy people are asymptomatic and others die.

Of course, I wasn’t saying it was impossible for him to be in hospital as I know it affects people very differently. I just meant that it would be very unusual for a sportsman to be hospitalised for it, and if that had happened then surely he wouldn’t be ready to fight in a couple of months?

Apparently there have been a few - the New York Times interviewed some of them: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/spor ... letes.html

You're quite right, though, if he's been hospitalised with it then a January fight is hopelessly optimistic.

Interesting article, really weird how it can affect people so differently. Hope your wife isn’t feeling too bad now

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 19:06

dookus wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 09:49

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 08:41

Of course, I wasn’t saying it was impossible for him to be in hospital as I know it affects people very differently. I just meant that it would be very unusual for a sportsman to be hospitalised for it, and if that had happened then surely he wouldn’t be ready to fight in a couple of months?

Apparently there have been a few - the New York Times interviewed some of them: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/spor ... letes.html

You're quite right, though, if he's been hospitalised with it then a January fight is hopelessly optimistic.

Interesting article, really weird how it can affect people so differently. Hope your wife isn’t feeling too bad now

Cheers mate. It is a struggle but we are getting there.

Whoaaa!! He ain’t wrong Simon.

(craig) wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 03:23

Maybe the way he said it was a bit harsh but he's bang on

He could have made the same argument about Whyte though, every time he has hit world level (Joshua, Povetkin) he has also lost. It's very subjective.

Gnome wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 07:40 He could have made the same argument about Whyte though, every time he has hit world level (Joshua, Povetkin) he has also lost. It's very subjective.

I agree partly, and although, as you mention it's a fairly subjective categorisation, the argument is there that he could be top of European level by beating all other decent European level opponents that he's faced. However, he has also beaten Parker who had fairly recently been dethroned as the WBO champ. So Whyte is either at the bottom of World level or the top of European level, but the difference in that is more based on semantics rather than skill.

Chisora on the other hand has lost to lower world/higher European level opponents in Pulev, Whytex2, Helenius(robbery I know) and Kabayel, in addition to a fight against Takam where he was well behind before a shock KO.

Gnome wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 07:40 He could have made the same argument about Whyte though, every time he has hit world level (Joshua, Povetkin) he has also lost. It's very subjective.

Parker is world levle and he beat him (but i 100% think parker would of won without that head clash so that completely kills my point)

joshj909 wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 07:58

Gnome wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 07:40 He could have made the same argument about Whyte though, every time he has hit world level (Joshua, Povetkin) he has also lost. It's very subjective.

I agree partly, and although, as you mention it's a fairly subjective categorisation, the argument is there that he could be top of European level by beating all other decent European level opponents that he's faced. However, he has also beaten Parker who had fairly recently been dethroned as the WBO champ. So Whyte is either at the bottom of World level or the top of European level, but the difference in that is more based on semantics rather than skill.

Chisora on the other hand has lost to lower world/higher European level opponents in Pulev, Whytex2, Helenius(robbery I know) and Kabayel, in addition to a fight against Takam where he was well behind before a shock KO.

Joshua wasnt world level at the time, but we knew he would go on be.

Povetkin is now out of hospital.. Recovering at home.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Nov 2020, 12:05 Povetkin is now out of hospital.. Recovering at home.

great news

Promoter Not Confident Povetkin Will Be Ready By 1/30 Date For Whyte

Andrei Ryabinsky, promoter for WBC interim-heavyweight champion Alexander Povetkin, is not confident that his boxer will ready in time for a tentative date of January 30 for a rematch with Dillian Whyte.

Back in August, Povetkin pulled off a major upset when he knocked Whyte out cold in the fifth round of their clash at the Matchroom Fight Camp in Brentwood.

Whyte would exercise an immediate rematch clause, with a second fight being set down for November 21.

But last week it was revealed that Povetkin had tested positive for COVID-19 and the rematch was immediately postponed.

Povetkin was hospitalized in Russian and received treatment.

Whyte's promoter, Eddie Hearn, mentioned a tentative date of January 30 - but Ryabinsky is not convinced that can happen.

"We will try, but I think that by January 30 Alexander is unlikely to recover," Ryabinsky said to Vasily Konov Jr.

The Russian promoter revealed that Povetkin was discharged from the hospital to continue his recovery at home.

Povetkin is expected to resume training in three weeks - but Ryabinsky cautions that the re-start of his training camp will not begin until his doctor gives him the green light.

Going into the August fight, the 41-year-old Povetkin was a huge underdog and Whyte was the mandatory challenger to the WBC title, which is currently held by Tyson Fury.

Povetkin appeared to be in serious trouble after being dropped two times in the fourth round. But he shocked everyone, when a big uppercut connected out of nowhere - and generated a big knockout where the British boxer went down and out.