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Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 24 Oct 2020, 07:01
by Muttley
Boxing Prospect wrote: 23 Oct 2020, 20:19
spudder56 wrote: 23 Oct 2020, 13:55
Muttley wrote: 23 Oct 2020, 09:50

There is nothing to stop boxers fighting under another organisation. The Boxing Board do not have the monopoly to govern pro boxing in the UK.
:clap: 100% correct it’s a freedom of choice as to whether boxers are licensed by the board or others simple as that
I know in Korea there's like 6 bodies, is that possible in the UK? What's REALLY different between BBBofC, BIBA and white collar? At the end of the day...
Exactly,nothing at all.

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 24 Oct 2020, 07:47
by Coco
The difference is who they are affiliated to.
You can only fight for proper titles with the BBBoC

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 24 Oct 2020, 10:37
by Muttley
Coco wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 07:47 The difference is who they are affiliated to.
You can only fight for proper titles with the BBBoC
no,no lets say joe blow is a pro in London and is not licenced by the BBBOC. if Joe gets a pro licence in Germany and that licencing body is affiliated to the EBU,WBO,WBC,whoever, then job done. also,if ex inspectors and licence holders decide to form a new board, then they could apply to all these sanctioning bodies for membership and succeed.

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 24 Oct 2020, 10:42
by spudder56
Coco wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 07:47 The difference is who they are affiliated to.
You can only fight for proper titles with the BBBoC
:clap:

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 24 Oct 2020, 10:45
by spudder56
Muttley wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 10:37
Coco wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 07:47 The difference is who they are affiliated to.
You can only fight for proper titles with the BBBoC
no,no lets say joe blow is a pro in London and is not licenced by the BBBOC. if Joe gets a pro licence in Germany and that licencing body is affiliated to the EBU,WBO,WBC,whoever, then job done. also,if ex inspectors and licence holders decide to form a new board, then they could apply to all these sanctioning bodies for membership and succeed.
Not as simple as that mate all the well established commissions and sanctioning bodies close ranks to keep anybody else out of the lucrative cash cow which is boxing administration

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 24 Oct 2020, 10:56
by Muttley
spudder56 wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 10:45
Muttley wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 10:37
Coco wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 07:47 The difference is who they are affiliated to.
You can only fight for proper titles with the BBBoC
no,no lets say joe blow is a pro in London and is not licenced by the BBBOC. if Joe gets a pro licence in Germany and that licencing body is affiliated to the EBU,WBO,WBC,whoever, then job done. also,if ex inspectors and licence holders decide to form a new board, then they could apply to all these sanctioning bodies for membership and succeed.
Not as simple as that mate all the well established commissions and sanctioning bodies close ranks to keep anybody else out of the lucrative cash cow which is boxing administration
I understand what your saying but if for example Tyson Fury signed with the new 'board' do you not think the WBA would not sanction his fight? how about if Warren or Hearn jump ship and join the new 'Board' do you not think life would not go on?

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 24 Oct 2020, 11:04
by spudder56
Muttley wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 10:56
spudder56 wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 10:45
Muttley wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 10:37

no,no lets say joe blow is a pro in London and is not licenced by the BBBOC. if Joe gets a pro licence in Germany and that licencing body is affiliated to the EBU,WBO,WBC,whoever, then job done. also,if ex inspectors and licence holders decide to form a new board, then they could apply to all these sanctioning bodies for membership and succeed.
Not as simple as that mate all the well established commissions and sanctioning bodies close ranks to keep anybody else out of the lucrative cash cow which is boxing administration
I understand what your saying but if for example Tyson Fury signed with the new 'board' do you not think the WBA would not sanction his fight? how about if Warren or Hearn jump ship and join the new 'Board' do you not think life would not go on?
Yeah of course I get what you’re saying but it won’t happen Warren was the biggest promotor when he went to Luxembourg etc which was an alternative board ask yourself this why did he go back to the board after just one show ?

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 24 Oct 2020, 11:12
by Muttley
spudder56 wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 11:04
Muttley wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 10:56
spudder56 wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 10:45

Not as simple as that mate all the well established commissions and sanctioning bodies close ranks to keep anybody else out of the lucrative cash cow which is boxing administration
I understand what your saying but if for example Tyson Fury signed with the new 'board' do you not think the WBA would not sanction his fight? how about if Warren or Hearn jump ship and join the new 'Board' do you not think life would not go on?
Yeah of course I get what you’re saying but it won’t happen Warren was the biggest promotor when he went to Luxembourg etc which was an alternative board ask yourself this why did he go back to the board after just one show ?
Because he took the control and the board buckled. everytime a promoter moves away or stands up to the board they buckle. and that's what needs to be done. the sooner more of the the licence holders accept that the board work for them and not the other way round the better.

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 24 Oct 2020, 11:16
by spudder56
Muttley wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 11:12
spudder56 wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 11:04
Muttley wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 10:56

I understand what your saying but if for example Tyson Fury signed with the new 'board' do you not think the WBA would not sanction his fight? how about if Warren or Hearn jump ship and join the new 'Board' do you not think life would not go on?
Yeah of course I get what you’re saying but it won’t happen Warren was the biggest promotor when he went to Luxembourg etc which was an alternative board ask yourself this why did he go back to the board after just one show ?
Because he took the control and the board buckled. everytime a promoter moves away or stands up to the board they buckle. and that's what needs to be done. the sooner more of the the licence holders accept that the board work for them and not the other way round the better.
Yeah fair comment but it needs someone to start the ball rolling doesn’t it mate

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 24 Oct 2020, 13:59
by Muttley
spudder56 wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 11:16
Muttley wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 11:12
spudder56 wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 11:04

Yeah of course I get what you’re saying but it won’t happen Warren was the biggest promotor when he went to Luxembourg etc which was an alternative board ask yourself this why did he go back to the board after just one show ?
Because he took the control and the board buckled. everytime a promoter moves away or stands up to the board they buckle. and that's what needs to be done. the sooner more of the the licence holders accept that the board work for them and not the other way round the better.
Yeah fair comment but it needs someone to start the ball rolling doesn’t it mate
I can think of a few good solid people.

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 24 Oct 2020, 15:53
by spudder56
Muttley wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 13:59
spudder56 wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 11:16
Muttley wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 11:12

Because he took the control and the board buckled. everytime a promoter moves away or stands up to the board they buckle. and that's what needs to be done. the sooner more of the the licence holders accept that the board work for them and not the other way round the better.
Yeah fair comment but it needs someone to start the ball rolling doesn’t it mate
I can think of a few good solid people.
Perhaps you ought to approach them and get it started then now is an ideal time as not many shows and licences to deal with

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 25 Oct 2020, 03:54
by high tower 1
Muttley wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 10:37
Coco wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 07:47 The difference is who they are affiliated to.
You can only fight for proper titles with the BBBoC
no,no lets say joe blow is a pro in London and is not licenced by the BBBOC. if Joe gets a pro licence in Germany and that licencing body is affiliated to the EBU,WBO,WBC,whoever, then job done. also,if ex inspectors and licence holders decide to form a new board, then they could apply to all these sanctioning bodies for membership and succeed.
Noooooo ! There’s enough alphabet soup titles in boxing , we don’t now need a jumble of other boards. Also do you really think those Micky mouse boards will be fairer??? They’ll be worse !

BBB of C need new blood in.

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 25 Oct 2020, 03:56
by high tower 1
rob Smith should do a vince McMahon style heel turn. Imagine him going out to boos at every show then clothes lining Eddie Hearn at ringside :yay:

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 25 Oct 2020, 06:30
by Glass Joe
high tower 1 wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 03:56 rob Smith should do a vince McMahon style heel turn. Imagine him going out to boos at every show then clothes lining Eddie Hearn at ringside :yay:
Vince MaMahon the best heel and promoter ever

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 25 Oct 2020, 07:10
by spudder56
high tower 1 wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 03:54
Muttley wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 10:37
Coco wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 07:47 The difference is who they are affiliated to.
You can only fight for proper titles with the BBBoC
no,no lets say joe blow is a pro in London and is not licenced by the BBBOC. if Joe gets a pro licence in Germany and that licencing body is affiliated to the EBU,WBO,WBC,whoever, then job done. also,if ex inspectors and licence holders decide to form a new board, then they could apply to all these sanctioning bodies for membership and succeed.
Noooooo ! There’s enough alphabet soup titles in boxing , we don’t now need a jumble of other boards. Also do you really think those Micky mouse boards will be fairer??? They’ll be worse !

BBB of C need new blood in.
Who would you say needs replacing and by whom ?

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 25 Oct 2020, 08:29
by high tower 1
spudder56 wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 07:10
high tower 1 wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 03:54
Muttley wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 10:37

no,no lets say joe blow is a pro in London and is not licenced by the BBBOC. if Joe gets a pro licence in Germany and that licencing body is affiliated to the EBU,WBO,WBC,whoever, then job done. also,if ex inspectors and licence holders decide to form a new board, then they could apply to all these sanctioning bodies for membership and succeed.
Noooooo ! There’s enough alphabet soup titles in boxing , we don’t now need a jumble of other boards. Also do you really think those Micky mouse boards will be fairer??? They’ll be worse !

BBB of C need new blood in.
Who would you say needs replacing and by whom ?
The obvious ones. There should be a greater feedback system and transparent hearings to weed out the useless officials. There should also be a greater drive to bring up newer referees so you know it’s not simply a job for life and you can do what you want.


What do you think they should do ?

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 25 Oct 2020, 08:29
by high tower 1
Glass Joe wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 06:30
high tower 1 wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 03:56 rob Smith should do a vince McMahon style heel turn. Imagine him going out to boos at every show then clothes lining Eddie Hearn at ringside :yay:
Vince MaMahon the best heel and promoter ever
Agreed. He makes my blood boil even thinking about him. Brilliant entertainer.

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 25 Oct 2020, 13:59
by spudder56
ERIC GUY wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 15:18
spudder56 wrote: 21 Oct 2020, 05:15 Smith won’t be walking away from his big salary and expenses any time soon 😂
do you know his salary?
Circa 75k plus big pension car plus expenses

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 25 Oct 2020, 14:44
by nobleart1978
The BBBofC are all freemasons...
Probably all flat earthers too... :OhYes:

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 25 Oct 2020, 16:40
by high tower 1
They’re also illuminati lizards

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 10:32
by Boxerbeetle
Just listening to the latest Boxing News podcast where Robert Smith has come on to defend O’Connor. Fair play to Matt and Steedman for attempting to push the issue and get some real answers, but Smith basically gives generic answers about how it’s all subjective and Terry is a good guy. Old boys club is right, unfortunately.

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 10:34
by gilgamesh
You out of your mind?

The Cure wouldn't be sh*t without him.

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 14:08
by TheGoods
Boxerbeetle wrote: 31 Oct 2020, 10:32 Just listening to the latest Boxing News podcast where Robert Smith has come on to defend O’Connor. Fair play to Matt and Steedman for attempting to push the issue and get some real answers, but Smith basically gives generic answers about how it’s all subjective and Terry is a good guy. Old boys club is right, unfortunately.
Was a weird listen. Smith saying in the first bit Terry gave plausible explanation for his scoring then was alluding that it won’t happen again with him as though they’ve spoken to him. Interview was not consistent. To say ANY scores are justified as it’s a game of opinions is just ridiculous by the way. Also admitted they did not go through the fight with him as basically everyone had seen it!

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 14:19
by Boxerbeetle
TheGoods wrote: 31 Oct 2020, 14:08
Boxerbeetle wrote: 31 Oct 2020, 10:32 Just listening to the latest Boxing News podcast where Robert Smith has come on to defend O’Connor. Fair play to Matt and Steedman for attempting to push the issue and get some real answers, but Smith basically gives generic answers about how it’s all subjective and Terry is a good guy. Old boys club is right, unfortunately.
Was a weird listen. Smith saying in the first bit Terry gave plausible explanation for his scoring then was alluding that it won’t happen again with him as though they’ve spoken to him. Interview was not consistent. To say ANY scores are justified as it’s a game of opinions is just ridiculous by the way. Also admitted they did not go through the fight with him as basically everyone had seen it!
Exactly, it didn’t make any sense. Like I said, fair play to Christie and Steedman for the questions asked, because I do think they pushed as hard as they could without blatantly calling the answers out as bullshit. But ultimately nothing is changing and it’s just been swept under the carpet.

Re: Robert Smith must resign

Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 10:48
by handsofstone
I wonder if Smith thought anything wrong with Marcus McDonnell's 116-113 Vazquez card