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Omerta wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 17:11

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 08:51

Omerta wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 17:28 He hasn't even fought at elite level yet let alone won against an elite level opponent. He's still got time to do it but to say he his currently the greatest ever Scot is pushing it just now, it wasn't exactly a classic division he's cleaned out , prograis turned out to be well overrated , barancky was shown to be nothing more than a fairly decent level come forward brawler that suffered a hell of a ko defeat last year, and Ramirez was nothing more than a standard wbo type champion.

Hasn't he just beaten the two top guys in the division and is now clearly #1 in his division?

Yes but prograis has turned out to be completely overrated and Ramirez is just an bang average wbo type world level fighter, he hasn't got any wins against elite opposition like Buchanan and lynch have. Also it's not a great division he has cleared out and every top guy in it that he has beaten have been very close fights that could of went either way.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 18:05 I had to check Prograis record to see what had happened for him to now be deemed overrated...none the wiser

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 02:22 there's no way the ramirez fight could've gone either way either, the judges were generous to ramirez as it was and they still had it for jt

Steveh583 wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 02:20

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 18:05 I had to check Prograis record to see what had happened for him to now be deemed overrated...none the wiser

yeah bizarre comment. itseems when a classy fighter loses to an evenly matched opponent they are then overrated

Allas wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 03:57

Omerta wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 17:04

My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 13:41 Has he been on any media outlets, especially in Scotland?

Has there been any SNP acknowledgment of his achievement? He's a massive nationalist so you'd think they'd
be all over this.

Don't watch much telly but i heard Tyson was on every brekkie show going after Wilder.

He's not very popular up here due to alot of his out of the ring carry on, for example racially abusing night club bouncers and challenging them to fight, also he was regularly mouthing off about rangers and the supporters on twitter a few years back, if your a boxer in Scotland looking to build up a fan base you don't get involved in football and slag off one side of the old firm you are automatically going to be a hate figure to half the population of the country. Also his begbie from trainspotting hardman routine at press conferences and weigh ins etc is hardly going to win him any fans within the likes of the SNP their not going to want to be associated with that

Even down here in England I've never understood why boxers from 2 team cities clearly align themselves to one team. Where I'm from we have Dalton Smith coming through but a lot of my mates don't like him for the fact he comes out wearing Sheffield Wednesday stuff.

Omerta wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 17:04

My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 13:41 Has he been on any media outlets, especially in Scotland?

Has there been any SNP acknowledgment of his achievement? He's a massive nationalist so you'd think they'd
be all over this.

Don't watch much telly but i heard Tyson was on every brekkie show going after Wilder.

He's not very popular up here due to alot of his out of the ring carry on, for example racially abusing night club bouncers and challenging them to fight, also he was regularly mouthing off about rangers and the supporters on twitter a few years back, if your a boxer in Scotland looking to build up a fan base you don't get involved in football and slag off one side of the old firm you are automatically going to be a hate figure to half the population of the country. Also his begbie from trainspotting hardman routine at press conferences and weigh ins etc is hardly going to win him any fans within the likes of the SNP their not going to want to be associated with that

Omerta wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 17:04

My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 13:41 Has he been on any media outlets, especially in Scotland?

Has there been any SNP acknowledgment of his achievement? He's a massive nationalist so you'd think they'd
be all over this.

Don't watch much telly but i heard Tyson was on every brekkie show going after Wilder.

He's not very popular up here due to alot of his out of the ring carry on, for example racially abusing night club bouncers and challenging them to fight, also he was regularly mouthing off about rangers and the supporters on twitter a few years back, if your a boxer in Scotland looking to build up a fan base you don't get involved in football and slag off one side of the old firm you are automatically going to be a hate figure to half the population of the country. Also his begbie from trainspotting hardman routine at press conferences and weigh ins etc is hardly going to win him any fans within the likes of the SNP their not going to want to be associated with that

mickey1975 wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 04:14

Allas wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 03:57

Omerta wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 17:04

He's not very popular up here due to alot of his out of the ring carry on, for example racially abusing night club bouncers and challenging them to fight, also he was regularly mouthing off about rangers and the supporters on twitter a few years back, if your a boxer in Scotland looking to build up a fan base you don't get involved in football and slag off one side of the old firm you are automatically going to be a hate figure to half the population of the country. Also his begbie from trainspotting hardman routine at press conferences and weigh ins etc is hardly going to win him any fans within the likes of the SNP their not going to want to be associated with that

Even down here in England I've never understood why boxers from 2 team cities clearly align themselves to one team. Where I'm from we have Dalton Smith coming through but a lot of my mates don't like him for the fact he comes out wearing Sheffield Wednesday stuff.

Because it probably sells tickets at first. As you move through the ranks it's a hindrance. Hatton and Bellew are staunch supporters but never alienated the other team.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 05:05 Most of Yorkshire are Leeds fans, even with pro teams of their own.

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 05:14 Both Sheffield clubs have fan bases as big or bigger. Dimlow.

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 05:22 I remember those big Wembley finals Sheffield Wednesday had in the early 90s against Man Utd and Arsenal - they’d sell their tickets faster than Utd and Arsenal.

Good side - two underrated players John Sheridan pulling the strings and David Hirst as a finisher. Danny Wilson seemed to pop up a lot.

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 05:24 What’s Danny Wilson doing now? He was a really good manager. Rumour was he was taking the Doncaster job.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 05:33

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 05:22 I remember those big Wembley finals Sheffield Wednesday had in the early 90s against Man Utd and Arsenal - they’d sell their tickets faster than Utd and Arsenal.

Good side - two underrated players John Sheridan pulling the strings and David Hirst as a finisher. Danny Wilson seemed to pop up a lot.

Burnley could sell out Wembley for lower league play offs, and Stoke, Cardiff and loads of other clubs, its Wembley! Only Man City and Chelsea struggle

mickey1975 wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 05:33

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 05:22 I remember those big Wembley finals Sheffield Wednesday had in the early 90s against Man Utd and Arsenal - they’d sell their tickets faster than Utd and Arsenal.

Good side - two underrated players John Sheridan pulling the strings and David Hirst as a finisher. Danny Wilson seemed to pop up a lot.

Burnley could sell out Wembley for lower league play offs, and Stoke, Cardiff and loads of other clubs, its Wembley! Only Man City and Chelsea struggle

Allas wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 05:37

mickey1975 wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 05:20

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 05:14 Both Sheffield clubs have fan bases as big or bigger. Dimlow.

You're obviously not very clued up. Wednesday have good support from their own people. Not across Yorkshire. Have a look at attendances. Donny Whites, Bradford White, Hull Whites, Barnsley Whites, nearly everywhere up here has a 'Whites'.

Wednesday have big support in South Yorks and North Notts.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 05:33

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 05:22 I remember those big Wembley finals Sheffield Wednesday had in the early 90s against Man Utd and Arsenal - they’d sell their tickets faster than Utd and Arsenal.

Good side - two underrated players John Sheridan pulling the strings and David Hirst as a finisher. Danny Wilson seemed to pop up a lot.

Burnley could sell out Wembley for lower league play offs, and Stoke, Cardiff and loads of other clubs, its Wembley! Only Man City and Chelsea struggle