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banjo wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 06:04 What exactly does getting an honour mean other than a bunch of extra letters in your name? Does it get you any freebies? If not then what's the point?

For your average person it wont do a lot. But in business it opens a lot of doors.
Friend of mine got one of the lower MBE trinkets when he left the MET. He only ever worked for the Police .. yet opened up a consultancy business and earns very good money training Local Authority front line social care staff and NHS frontline health staff best work practices. As said he only ever worked for the Police and he has zero knowledge of social or health work processes or practices.

The MBE gets him the contracts no doubt.

My uncle had an MBE. Not entirely sure it did his career any good by the time he had it.

tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 07:56

banjo wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 06:04 What exactly does getting an honour mean other than a bunch of extra letters in your name? Does it get you any freebies? If not then what's the point?

For your average person it wont do a lot. But in business it opens a lot of doors.
Friend of mine got one of the lower MBE trinkets when he left the MET. He only ever worked for the Police .. yet opened up a consultancy business and earns very good money training Local Authority front line social care staff and NHS frontline health staff best work practices. As said he only ever worked for the Police and he has zero knowledge of social or health work processes or practices.

The MBE gets him the contracts no doubt.

Yeah - it massively helps from a business perspective in opening doors. Someone I used to work with got one primarily because her sponsor for it was an extremely wealthy Tory donor. She was good at business but it opened up massive doors for her afterwards.

banjo wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 07:45

bigjack wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 06:04

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 05:19

maybe he doesnt even care about honours, unlike some...

he didn't want SPOTY so can hardly see him wanting an MBE/OBE either

To be fair SPOTY doesn't carry anything like the prestige of receiving an honour, SPOTY is just a tacky ceremony that the BBC deem a major event in the sporting calendar, it's also biased towards certain sports as well.

I know that,just saying if he didn't want sports fans voting for him then he won't want a few men in suits saying if he should have an award or not.

tonyevs wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 04:09

dan28uk wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 18:02 you get 3 types of people in this world i find those who learn from others mistakes , those who learn from their own mistakes and those who don’t learn at all , i’d like to think i learn from my own mistakes. life is for learning we all make them that’s how we become better people in my eyes and im certainly no saint and was a horror in my youth but like to think i’ve turned out ok

However Tyson continues to come across unpleasantly. The Video of him chanting "Joshua is a pussy", his crass comments prior to the 3rd Wilder fight, the Jake Paul interview .. I'm sure there are many others from just last year.

"Only a fool learns from his own mistakes. The wise man learns from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck

yeah that isn’t a great look ive certainly been a fool then

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 08:16 The Queen like the rest of us real boxing fans are probably waiting for him to make a mandatory

What does that mean, a mandatory defence which he did in his last fight?

Yeah some "real boxing fan" ffs

The Honours system is a load of bullshit to be frank although I'm not British so doesn't concern me.

But if Tony Blair can get a knighthood and Jimmy Saville well then that says it all.

peter barlow wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 10:31
What does that mean, a mandatory defence which he did in his last fight?

Yeah some "real boxing fan" ffs

what?

An arbitration judge awarded wilder the 3rd fight because of a rematch clause not being honoured by team Fury, it wasn't mandated by the wbc.

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peter barlow wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 10:31
What does that mean, a mandatory defence which he did in his last fight?

Yeah some "real boxing fan" ffs

what?

An arbitration judge awarded wilder the 3rd fight because of a rematch clause not being honoured by team Fury, it wasn't mandated by the wbc.
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peter barlow wrote: ↑02 Jan 2022, 10:36 The Honours system is a load of bullshit to be frank although I'm not British so doesn't concern me.

But if Tony Blair can get a knighthood and Jimmy Saville well then that says it all.

I haven't read the whole thread but I agree with this. What does an honour from the Queen really mean? The Royals aren't exactly the sort of people you need to get an honour from. Their credibility diminishes day by day. You really want Prince Andrew's Mum to say she officially likes you?

I quite like the Queen but once she pops her clogs the monarchy is toast. I give them one generation, maybe two at most. The English might stick Charles and then Andrew, but they're going to have to hard on the PR. I can't see them lasting. A knighthood by that bunch might be looked at as a borderline insult in the near future if anything?

Fury wouldn't lose any fans by telling them to stick it.

Lot of truth in this thread, the people handing out the honours are dirty rotten scumbags, and Fury boasts about his friendships with a group of other dirty rotten scumbags and acts like one himself when he forgets to play up the mental health hero act (Thanks Daniel Kinahan!!)

So who cares??

GreenLightning wrote: ↑04 Jan 2022, 10:49 Lot of truth in this thread, the people handing out the honours are dirty rotten scumbags, and Fury boasts about his friendships with a group of other dirty rotten scumbags and acts like one himself when he forgets to play up the mental health hero act (Thanks Daniel Kinahan!!)

So who cares??

but how do you act around the kinahans, do you tell them nicely nah dont want nothing to do with you can you go away please, do you think that will work, fury is a boxer the other people put people in the ground how do you keep them of you ,

I’m no royalist but I don’t really think sitting in front of a screen laughing while your dad screams ‘do her like a dog’ is really OBE material

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 20:43 I’m no royalist but I don’t really think sitting in front of a screen laughing while your dad screams ‘do her like a dog’ is really OBE material

while your giving out an obe your son is shagging youngerns hmmmm

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 20:43 I’m no royalist but I don’t really think sitting in front of a screen laughing while your dad screams ‘do her like a dog’ is really OBE material

couldn't help but laugh when you said this haha

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 19:25

GreenLightning wrote: ↑04 Jan 2022, 10:49 Lot of truth in this thread, the people handing out the honours are dirty rotten scumbags, and Fury boasts about his friendships with a group of other dirty rotten scumbags and acts like one himself when he forgets to play up the mental health hero act (Thanks Daniel Kinahan!!)

So who cares??

but how do you act around the kinahans, do you tell them nicely nah dont want nothing to do with you can you go away please, do you think that will work, fury is a boxer the other people put people in the ground how do you keep them of you ,

Jump in to bed with a monster you might wake up with worse than fleas, Daniel is not as smart as his old man he's overexposed himself with the mass murders and hitting soft targets, he drew far too much attention with the Hutch stuff , lost a bit of control in Dublin as the rats are starting to gather while the cat hides in Dubai. One of the boyos who was big in for Kinahan in Dublin recently had his young designer pup stolen by rivals and there's a viral video of the rather nasty looking guy in a fancy car gripping the dog by neck and holding it up with a pretty malicious look on his face, he wasn't blurred.

These guys will all turn on eachother eventually, greed, youngsters coming up, informing, just reckless ruthless ambition with too much fornicating money at stake

The amount of these guys who have double crossed eachother , the acts of brutality they take part in to allow them to flood the streets with heroin and poison ,makes Game of Thrones look like Peppa Pig.

I thought the main reason Fury never made the list is because he's not a nonce or a mass murderer

He had s few of those around hin

Found this about the Kinehan dealer who's fancy dog got stolen , yep, he's pretty much fucked, his mates have either turned tout or been killed

"Mr Flashy’ is a gangster in Dublin who formed the 'Gucci Gang'. Reports say it is no more as key members have either been arrested or are dead. The mob boss fell out with the Kinahan cartel after repeated gang feuds. His former bosses in the Kinahan gang sent a hitman to Ireland to kill him. ‘Mr Flashy’ was handed a Garda Information Message (GIM) - a form officially notifying him of a credible threat to his life. Once one of Dublin’s most dangerous criminals, Flashy is said to be hiding from a rival gang, using street kids to do his work, and is effectively alone. The gang feuds have sparked at least half a dozen violent incidents in Dublin."

GreenLightning wrote: ↑18 Jan 2022, 13:50 Found this about the Kinehan dealer who's fancy dog got stolen , yep, he's pretty much fucked, his mates have either turned tout or been killed

"Mr Flashy’ is a gangster in Dublin who formed the 'Gucci Gang'. Reports say it is no more as key members have either been arrested or are dead. The mob boss fell out with the Kinahan cartel after repeated gang feuds. His former bosses in the Kinahan gang sent a hitman to Ireland to kill him. ‘Mr Flashy’ was handed a Garda Information Message (GIM) - a form officially notifying him of a credible threat to his life. Once one of Dublin’s most dangerous criminals, Flashy is said to be hiding from a rival gang, using street kids to do his work, and is effectively alone. The gang feuds have sparked at least half a dozen violent incidents in Dublin."

Mate this kind of stuff is happening in every city in every country on earth, bar maybe Dubai and Singapore, where nothing of the sort is tolerated.

It’s not the Kinahans, it’s humans. Boxing has always had dangerous people involved, from Oweney Madden to Don King. It’s nothing to get worked up about.

Nobody is saying it's special mate lol but Don King isn't actively the top drug dealer in Europe involved in a feud that's killed over 30 people, kinda different levels

We aren't arguing about Owney Madden or Frank Costello or dead hoods everybody knows were gangsters,, we are talking about a guy who people still argue is a "legitimate businessman"

Youve missed the point entirely

There were AK47s fired at a weigh in ffs, but our Daniel has never seen a bag of cocaine in his life and never so much as nicked a sweet my old china

Like we seriously have to sit and listen to boxers talk to that runt James English and all claim with a straight face that it's not that Daniel Kinahan is a dirtball knee deep in drugs and murder , it's that people are "jealous" and the "media" and "establishment" need somebody to hate

Here we go with the Robin Hood whitewashing

It's not a competition between Kinehan and the establishment, both can be rotten

GreenLightning wrote: ↑18 Jan 2022, 15:54 Like we seriously have to sit and listen to boxers talk to that runt James English and all claim with a straight face that it's not that Daniel Kinahan is a dirtball knee deep in drugs and murder , it's that people are "jealous" and the "media" and "establishment" need somebody to hate

Here we go with the Robin Hood whitewashing

It's not a competition between Kinehan and the establishment, both can be rotten

I don't know how anyone can sit and listen to a James English interview.

bripez wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 06:25

mickey1975 wrote: ↑01 Jan 2022, 03:55 Is it just blatant racism?

Nah, i reckon the Queen looked at his record and thought he needs to fight a few more quality opponents first