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Re: Ortiz has 3 days to accept Offer vs Hrgovic, IBF

Posted: 05 Jan 2022, 18:07
by margaret thatcher
wouldnt surprise me if yokster took it if offered

Re: Ortiz has 3 days to accept Offer vs Hrgovic, IBF

Posted: 05 Jan 2022, 20:31
by Perkin Warbeck
And now Joseph Parker is ducking Hrgovic.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/j ... um=twitter

Gone are the days of heavyweights like Liston, Ali, Foreman, Frazier etc., heavyweight boxers who ducked no one.

Nowadays most of the heavyweights are chicken poop.

Re: Ortiz has 3 days to accept Offer vs Hrgovic, IBF

Posted: 05 Jan 2022, 20:42
by Enlightened-One
To be fair, there are fundamental issues with the IBF’s rules.

For instance, Dillian Whyte, Jarrell Miller and other fighters rejected opportunities to engage in an IBF final eliminator against Kubrat Pulev, because the IBF’s rules stipulated they’d inly receive a 25% split of the purse.

This issue is compounded by the fact that Hrgovic is a commercially unpopular fighter.

I’ve discussed this at length numerous times.

And I’ve always maintained that none of the top-tier world-rated fighters would even consider sharing the ring with Filip Hrgovic for peanuts.

Re: Ortiz has 3 days to accept Offer vs Hrgovic, IBF

Posted: 05 Jan 2022, 21:16
by gregregegg
margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 18:07 wouldnt surprise me if yokster took it if offered
Isn’t he making a million to fight journeymen? Hard to then take few hundred thousand for hrg. I’d be impressed if he took it, my guess is it will go down to kabayal…

Re: Ortiz has 3 days to accept Offer vs Hrgovic, IBF

Posted: 05 Jan 2022, 21:49
by Mexi-Box
Perkin Warbeck wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 20:31 And now Joseph Parker is ducking Hrgovic.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/j ... um=twitter

Gone are the days of heavyweights like Liston, Ali, Foreman, Frazier etc., heavyweight boxers who ducked no one.

Nowadays most of the heavyweights are chicken poop.
In those days, Hrgovic wouldn't be a contender with that resume. It's maddening, but I still don't blame any of these names not taking the fight. Hrgovic can't draw flies, and no one will share a ring with him for peanuts. High risk, low reward fight because no one will care if you beat Hrgovic outside of the boxing forums. Ajagba/Sanchez didn't elevate either fighter :lol:, but while they were both nobody prospects, Ruiz Jr., King Kong, Parker, etc. are actual names.

Re: Ortiz has 3 days to accept Offer vs Hrgovic, IBF

Posted: 05 Jan 2022, 22:16
by KiwiRider
ironbeard wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 12:46 I agree with Bandog inasmuch as a three day deadline two days off a tough fight is suspicious, ridiculous, and should be laughed at.

A fighter should be thinking of nothing other than his health and recuperation for the time being, especially at the age of 62, or whatever Ortiz’s actual age is.
He, and his team knew this was coming, the winner of the Martin Ortiz fight would have to fight Hrgovic. It was known before the Martin Ortiz fight was even made. So signing to face Hrgovic was a given for the winner, they could have timed the fight for 3 months time, as long as they agreed to the fight.
So in my mind it quacks like a duck, therefore it is a duck or duck impersonator

Re: Ortiz has 3 days to accept Offer vs Hrgovic, IBF

Posted: 05 Jan 2022, 22:20
by ironbeard
KiwiRider wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 22:16
ironbeard wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 12:46 I agree with Bandog inasmuch as a three day deadline two days off a tough fight is suspicious, ridiculous, and should be laughed at.

A fighter should be thinking of nothing other than his health and recuperation for the time being, especially at the age of 62, or whatever Ortiz’s actual age is.
He, and his team knew this was coming, the winner of the Martin Ortiz fight would have to fight Hrgovic. It was known before the Martin Ortiz fight was even made. So signing to face Hrgovic was a given for the winner, they could have timed the fight for 3 months time, as long as they agreed to the fight.
So in my mind it quacks like a duck, therefore it is a duck or duck impersonator
Maybe, or (like me) he chafes at ultimatums. Better yet, maybe he is going to retire while he still has the brain cells to decide for himself.

Re: Ortiz has 3 days to accept Offer vs Hrgovic, IBF

Posted: 05 Jan 2022, 22:25
by KiwiRider
ironbeard wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 22:20
KiwiRider wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 22:16
ironbeard wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 12:46 I agree with Bandog inasmuch as a three day deadline two days off a tough fight is suspicious, ridiculous, and should be laughed at.

A fighter should be thinking of nothing other than his health and recuperation for the time being, especially at the age of 62, or whatever Ortiz’s actual age is.
He, and his team knew this was coming, the winner of the Martin Ortiz fight would have to fight Hrgovic. It was known before the Martin Ortiz fight was even made. So signing to face Hrgovic was a given for the winner, they could have timed the fight for 3 months time, as long as they agreed to the fight.
So in my mind it quacks like a duck, therefore it is a duck or duck impersonator
Maybe, or (like me) he chafes at ultimatums. Better yet, maybe he is going to retire while he still has the brain cells to decide for himself.
Yes, I'm sure money and age are his deciding factors. One maybe two more fights. He is so prime for the picking. If Charles Martin can dominate him and drop him twice, well so can at least half the boxrec top 12.

Re: Ortiz has 3 days to accept Offer vs Hrgovic, IBF

Posted: 05 Jan 2022, 23:11
by H8Usernames
Can't we look at things like Charles Martin got second place vs Luis Ortiz so since Ortiz and Parker don't want it maybe giving it to the runner up from Ortiz vs Martin is a good idea?

Re: Ortiz has 3 days to accept Offer vs Hrgovic, IBF

Posted: 06 Jan 2022, 00:41
by KiwiRider
H8Usernames wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 23:11 Can't we look at things like Charles Martin got second place vs Luis Ortiz so since Ortiz and Parker don't want it maybe giving it to the runner up from Ortiz vs Martin is a good idea?
They have been very clear that you don't get a shot at the belt without a final eliminator Vs Hrgovic.

Re: Ortiz has 3 days to accept Offer vs Hrgovic, IBF

Posted: 06 Jan 2022, 02:14
by Frede6
gregregegg wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 21:16
margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 18:07 wouldnt surprise me if yokster took it if offered
Isn’t he making a million to fight journeymen? Hard to then take few hundred thousand for hrg. I’d be impressed if he took it, my guess is it will go down to kabayal…
I think you are right Kaba is the only one who has nothing to loose. And he is as popular as Hrgovic ;-)
Anyhow still hope that Yoka will have the ‘cojones!

Re: Ortiz has 3 days to accept Offer vs Hrgovic, IBF

Posted: 06 Jan 2022, 02:18
by margaret thatcher
the yokester's ambitious, and winning this gets dude a shot at dat glory . he beat hrg ovic in the olympics, hopefully he's up for another fight :bag:

Re: Ortiz has 3 days to accept Offer vs Hrgovic, IBF

Posted: 06 Jan 2022, 02:37
by H8Usernames
KiwiRider wrote: 06 Jan 2022, 00:41
H8Usernames wrote: 05 Jan 2022, 23:11 Can't we look at things like Charles Martin got second place vs Luis Ortiz so since Ortiz and Parker don't want it maybe giving it to the runner up from Ortiz vs Martin is a good idea?
They have been very clear that you don't get a shot at the belt without a final eliminator Vs Hrgovic.
Exactly...throw Charles Martin in there against Filip for that final eliminator.... he did after all get second place vs Ortiz didn't he?