Deontay Wilder vs Robert Helenius in October?

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DrDuke wrote: 28 Jul 2022, 08:02
gregregegg wrote: 28 Jul 2022, 04:59
Mexi-Box wrote: 28 Jul 2022, 01:08 Helenius is so frustrating. You'd imagine he'd have everything to be an elite fighter, but he loses to such terrible opponents. How do you lose to Washington!?

Dude is huge, hits hard, and is a solid boxer. If it wasn't for his weak constitution, I'd say he should be a favorite. He'd outbox Wilder (who can't honestly), and he can stop anyone in the division.

Still, Wilder is a huge favorite for a reason.
Slow, poor headmovment, very basic footwork, limmited punch selection, medium power.

HE has basicaly nothing of an elite fighter, other than being fornicating big.
Well, his powah is quite big. Also, his main tools, like jab or 1-2, aren't that slow or at least he times those well enough.
Is it? Only really KOs poor opponents.

First kownak stop was impressive but is a bit of an outlier.

His 2nd kow stop kow took a billion clean shots befor it was stopped.

I would say heli is someone who seems powerful but his resume doesn’t actually suggest it. I mean he didn’t even chin Washington….
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Losing to Gerald Washington by ko is pretty horrible. Everyone else beats Gerald by ko. Adam Kownacki was an obvious fraud. It could be seen from miles away, maybe Robert really is trash and will drop very gracefully infront of Wilder. If he doesn't then that will put question marks behind the Wilder and Fury greatness myths.
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I really hope this happens.
I'm actually quite pumped for it :oops:
My sensible side says Wilder won't fight again, unless he runs out of money in his 40's and does some sort of money grab exhibition bout. :verysad:
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KiwiRider wrote: 28 Jul 2022, 19:29 I really hope this happens.
I'm actually quite pumped for it :oops:
My sensible side says Wilder won't fight again, unless he runs out of money in his 40's and does some sort of money grab exhibition bout. :verysad:
I don’t see why he would fight again. He must have earned enough from the Fury trilogy to not be able to burn through it unless he’s an absolute fool. Deep down he must recognise that he won’t get another belt unless the title picture becomes fractured again. That being said, if Fury relinquishes the WBC I bet Sulaiman would line up a soft option for the vacant belt.
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chinarich wrote: 29 Jul 2022, 07:16
KiwiRider wrote: 28 Jul 2022, 19:29 I really hope this happens.
I'm actually quite pumped for it :oops:
My sensible side says Wilder won't fight again, unless he runs out of money in his 40's and does some sort of money grab exhibition bout. :verysad:
I don’t see why he would fight again. He must have earned enough from the Fury trilogy to not be able to burn through it unless he’s an absolute fool. Deep down he must recognise that he won’t get another belt unless the title picture becomes fractured again. That being said, if Fury relinquishes the WBC I bet Sulaiman would line up a soft option for the vacant belt.
Exactly :TU:
Although when I sat though those episodes of RHOA and Wilder was making the odd appearance, he was blinged up to the max, fancy cars, designer custom clothes. And now he has 2 exes and 2 lots of child support going out.
So I wouldn't say he is an absolute fool with his money, but he is spending it lavishly and has a stray willie. That's why I suggested he may do some exhibition stuff in his forties when the money runs low in ten years.
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beyonce still didn't got to kill a man in the ring.

there you have your reason why he's gotta keep on smashing away in there.
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If Deontay had normal legs he’d be a natural 250lb fighter.

I’ve seen 45kg chicks with more leg muscle than him.
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Dioufy wrote: 03 Aug 2022, 07:28 If Deontay had normal legs he’d be a natural 250lb fighter.

I’ve seen 45kg chicks with more leg muscle than him.
At least 250. I have never seen any athlete with smaller calves.
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tiny_acres wrote: 03 Aug 2022, 08:06
Dioufy wrote: 03 Aug 2022, 07:28 If Deontay had normal legs he’d be a natural 250lb fighter.

I’ve seen 45kg chicks with more leg muscle than him.
At least 250. I have never seen any athlete with smaller calves.
His quads aren’t much bigger. It’s freakish.

Poor bastard must look a right sight in the gym; good job he’s arguably the biggest puncher in the sports’ history.

Only thing that saves him from being bantered to death.
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Dioufy wrote: 03 Aug 2022, 13:52
tiny_acres wrote: 03 Aug 2022, 08:06
Dioufy wrote: 03 Aug 2022, 07:28 If Deontay had normal legs he’d be a natural 250lb fighter.

I’ve seen 45kg chicks with more leg muscle than him.
At least 250. I have never seen any athlete with smaller calves.
His quads aren’t much bigger. It’s freakish.

Poor bastard must look a right sight in the gym; good job he’s arguably the biggest puncher in the sports’ history.

Only thing that saves him from being bantered to death.
He’s arguably the biggest puncher today…I don’t think there’s much argument for any historical standing.
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They did measurements for his fight with Stiverne. I think his thighs, freaking thighs!, are 15". That's the size of most guy's biceps, ffs. Freakishly thin legs. I guess he dispels the rumors that punching power comes solely from your legs :OhYes: .
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Mexi-Box wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 01:12 They did measurements for his fight with Stiverne. I think his thighs, freaking thighs!, are 15". That's the size of most guy's biceps, ffs. Freakishly thin legs. I guess he dispels the rumors that punching power comes solely from your legs :OhYes: .
That can't be right.
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KiwiRider wrote: 29 Jul 2022, 15:43
chinarich wrote: 29 Jul 2022, 07:16
KiwiRider wrote: 28 Jul 2022, 19:29 I really hope this happens.
I'm actually quite pumped for it :oops:
My sensible side says Wilder won't fight again, unless he runs out of money in his 40's and does some sort of money grab exhibition bout. :verysad:
I don’t see why he would fight again. He must have earned enough from the Fury trilogy to not be able to burn through it unless he’s an absolute fool. Deep down he must recognise that he won’t get another belt unless the title picture becomes fractured again. That being said, if Fury relinquishes the WBC I bet Sulaiman would line up a soft option for the vacant belt.
Exactly :TU:
Although when I sat though those episodes of RHOA and Wilder was making the odd appearance, he was blinged up to the max, fancy cars, designer custom clothes. And now he has 2 exes and 2 lots of child support going out.
So I wouldn't say he is an absolute fool with his money, but he is spending it lavishly and has a stray willie. That's why I suggested he may do some exhibition stuff in his forties when the money runs low in ten years.
Wilder is an absolute Moron, he will end up completely broke.

He won't have much chance of a career after boxing, because he is as thick as shite through a funnel and can barely string a cogent sentence together so nobody will want his services as a pundit.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 11:06
KiwiRider wrote: 29 Jul 2022, 15:43
chinarich wrote: 29 Jul 2022, 07:16

I don’t see why he would fight again. He must have earned enough from the Fury trilogy to not be able to burn through it unless he’s an absolute fool. Deep down he must recognise that he won’t get another belt unless the title picture becomes fractured again. That being said, if Fury relinquishes the WBC I bet Sulaiman would line up a soft option for the vacant belt.
Exactly :TU:
Although when I sat though those episodes of RHOA and Wilder was making the odd appearance, he was blinged up to the max, fancy cars, designer custom clothes. And now he has 2 exes and 2 lots of child support going out.
So I wouldn't say he is an absolute fool with his money, but he is spending it lavishly and has a stray willie. That's why I suggested he may do some exhibition stuff in his forties when the money runs low in ten years.
Wilder is an absolute Moron, he will end up completely broke.

He won't have much chance of a career after boxing, because he is as thick as shite through a funnel and can barely string a cogent sentence together so nobody will want his services as a pundit.
In all honesty he would fit in perfect with Triller as a pundit.
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tiny_acres wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 11:12
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 11:06
KiwiRider wrote: 29 Jul 2022, 15:43
Exactly :TU:
Although when I sat though those episodes of RHOA and Wilder was making the odd appearance, he was blinged up to the max, fancy cars, designer custom clothes. And now he has 2 exes and 2 lots of child support going out.
So I wouldn't say he is an absolute fool with his money, but he is spending it lavishly and has a stray willie. That's why I suggested he may do some exhibition stuff in his forties when the money runs low in ten years.
Wilder is an absolute Moron, he will end up completely broke.

He won't have much chance of a career after boxing, because he is as thick as shite through a funnel and can barely string a cogent sentence together so nobody will want his services as a pundit.
In all honesty he would fit in perfect with Triller as a pundit.
Is there really a market for people listening to ghetto word-salad?
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 11:28
tiny_acres wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 11:12
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 11:06

Wilder is an absolute Moron, he will end up completely broke.

He won't have much chance of a career after boxing, because he is as thick as shite through a funnel and can barely string a cogent sentence together so nobody will want his services as a pundit.
In all honesty he would fit in perfect with Triller as a pundit.
Is there really a market for people listening to ghetto word-salad?
That is what Triller specializes in
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tiny_acres wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 11:37
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 11:28
tiny_acres wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 11:12

In all honesty he would fit in perfect with Triller as a pundit.
Is there really a market for people listening to ghetto word-salad?
That is what Triller specializes in
Dear god.

Glad I've not watched it.
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Perkin Warbeck wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 13:17
Looks like a cruiserweight again
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joshj909 wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 14:33
Perkin Warbeck wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 13:17
Looks like a cruiserweight again
Yes, he looks very slim. Maybe he'll go for the Bridgerweight belt. I'm sure the WBC would let him do it.
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Perkin Warbeck wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 14:48
joshj909 wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 14:33
Perkin Warbeck wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 13:17
Looks like a cruiserweight again
Yes, he looks very slim. Maybe he'll go for the Bridgerweight belt. I'm sure the WBC would let him do it.
The easiest route to some trinket he can hoard. But the money is in the HW division by far. And he is used to the big money.
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coulda been hitting the weights for the 2nd and 3rd fury fights, hence losing some muscle during his time away. ironic when most fighters go the other way and chonk up when between fights
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Smart of him to return to the trimmer form. He should've been that way for the 2nd and 3rd Fury fights as well.

It's not a coincidence that the best he did against Fury was the 1st fight when he was the lightest.

Although the closest he came to actually beating him was Round 4 of Fight 3, but that was just about the only round he got in that fight.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 04 Aug 2022, 23:10 coulda been hitting the weights for the 2nd and 3rd fury fights, hence losing some muscle during his time away. ironic when most fighters go the other way and chonk up when between fights
It's a good sign I think. Shows the hunger to train at least.
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