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MasterG wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023, 04:58 I think it will happen. I think with Usyk being stopped by Martin Bakole in training Usyk is coming to the end of his career and Fury is jumping in for an easy payday.

Saying that it would be easier to defragment the titles as there would be more fights but shite fighting for the titles, at least from a fan perspective we would get some heavyweight action.

The thing is, we only have Bakole's word for it. Billy Nelson said he wasn't there. Was it a low blow? Dubois' shot to Uysk was low.

Also, people have different levels of fitness to each other depending on when they spar, which is why the only way to see who the best is, is to fight in a formal contest.

Bakole sounds like the most terrifying fighter ever going on his sparring stories but, the one time he has faced an opponent of note, he was stopped.

But, yes, I think Fury has waited for Uysk to get old. He was certainly in no rush to get in the ring with him until he looked vulnerable against Dubois.

big lennox wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023, 06:46

MasterG wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023, 04:58 I think it will happen. I think with Usyk being stopped by Martin Bakole in training Usyk is coming to the end of his career and Fury is jumping in for an easy payday.

Saying that it would be easier to defragment the titles as there would be more fights but shite fighting for the titles, at least from a fan perspective we would get some heavyweight action.

The thing is, we only have Bakole's word for it. Billy Nelson said he wasn't there. Was it a low blow? Dubois' shot to Uysk was low.

Also, people have different levels of fitness to each other depending on when they spar, which is why the only way to see who the best is, is to fight in a formal contest.

Bakole sounds like the most terrifying fighter ever going on his sparring stories but, the one time he has faced an opponent of note, he was stopped.

But, yes, I think Fury has waited for Uysk to get old. He was certainly in no rush to get in the ring with him until he looked vulnerable against Dubois.

Without context, who knows what happened. If could have been a perfect body shot or it could have been low, feet tangled, off balance or a n other.

Besides, sparring is practice.

big lennox wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023, 06:46
But, yes, I think Fury has waited for Uysk to get old. He was certainly in no rush to get in the ring with him until he looked vulnerable against Dubois.

He offered him 2 fights in 4 months but Usyk fled East on both occasions.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023, 10:09

big lennox wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023, 06:46
But, yes, I think Fury has waited for Uysk to get old. He was certainly in no rush to get in the ring with him until he looked vulnerable against Dubois.

He offered him 2 fights in 4 months but Usyk fled East on both occasions.

Fury couldn't fight in April. I though you of all people would know that.

If someone had a reputation for being difficult to do business with, offered you a contract, but then kept on changing the terms and offering very narrow timescales to sign the contract; would you sign it or concentrate your efforts elsewhere?

If its the former and not the latter, I would say, good luck, I hope you are not too trusting and that it works out well for you, whilst being worried for you.

big lennox wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023, 11:00 If someone had a reputation for being difficult to do business with, offered you a contract, but then kept on changing the terms and offering very narrow timescales to sign the contract; would you sign it or concentrate your efforts elsewhere?

If its the former and not the latter, I would say, good luck, I hope you are not too trusting and that it works out well for you, whilst being worried for you.

An excellent summary, which BigDoofus will ignore.

big lennox wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023, 11:00 If someone had a reputation for being difficult to do business with, offered you a contract, but then kept on changing the terms and offering very narrow timescales to sign the contract; would you sign it or concentrate your efforts elsewhere?

If its the former and not the latter, I would say, good luck, I hope you are not too trusting and that it works out well for you, whilst being worried for you.

Usyk was clear he didn’t want to fight in December.
He turned the April fight down in the hope he would get a better deal in Saudi.
Neither decision was anything to do with Fury.

So, will the ' fight' on Saturday be a stage managed affair, or will it be a genuine fight?

big lennox wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023, 16:17 So, will the ' fight' on Saturday be a stage managed affair, or will it be a genuine fight?

lol
Now come BL
What do you think?

si7dog7 wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023, 16:39

big lennox wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023, 16:17 So, will the ' fight' on Saturday be a stage managed affair, or will it be a genuine fight?

lol
Now come BL
What do you think?

I think it is pantomime season.

Looking forward to this fight :TU:

si7dog7 wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023, 16:39

big lennox wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023, 16:17 So, will the ' fight' on Saturday be a stage managed affair, or will it be a genuine fight?

lol
Now come BL
What do you think?

The British Boxing Board of Control have sanctioned it, so it sounds like it will be a fight. Shameful, if true.

Also, if Uysk isn't fully fit, why fight on the 23rd December, why not just push it back a few weeks. Surely, if you are Fury, you'd want to face a fully fit Uysk, so he can say he is better. What's the point if you opponent is injured and not ready.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑26 Oct 2023, 16:10 Neither decision was anything to do with Fury.

With the benefit of hindsight some of the posts on this thread are interesting

Bad performances in boxing open doors

BigDoofus wrote: ↑20 Oct 2023, 17:13

Usyk said he's ready to fight on December 23rd.
Not sure about the other guy though.

The Gratest wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 08:21

BigDoofus wrote: ↑20 Oct 2023, 17:13

Usyk said he's ready to fight on December 23rd.
Not sure about the other guy though.

Warren is already back pedalling

Fury at a cross roads he can either

Fight Francis again over 12 rounds for the actual WBC title. easier fight to make and be a another big casual fight. if he didnt train for it then he should make things right in the rematch but the USyk fight probably wont happen till later next year. Maybe Usyk can fight Wilder.

Fight Usyk and blame he didnt take the Francis fight serisouly. maybe play the mental health card again. If he wins fight Francis again if he loses then retire.

Cash out fight against Joshua thou i dont think it will be as massive as it would have been.

or just retire. but he will make his legacy even worse than it did when he got decked last night.

He just went life and death© against a lesser skilled version of Joshua making their pro debut. Unless Joshua's legs turn into pipe-cleaners and his upper body turns to mush, Fury won't be going near him.

©Mickey referring to Usyk vs Chisora

Haven't they reached a deal?

If Usyk is up to the said date then Fury should sure honour the date from here.

Expecting Fury to go ahead as he stated.

Does fury retiring come under contract dispute?

Cas wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 20:57 If Usyk is up to the said date then Fury should sure honour the date from here.

Expecting Fury to go ahead as he stated.

He's a man of honor.

early 2014 according to Team Usyk

golden_labrador wrote: ↑05 Nov 2023, 19:36 early 2014 according to Team Usyk

Now that would something.