Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed. (Merged)
Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed.
Too many mugs on this forum. I told you all about Audley, and I told you all about Fury. Yet no one listens.
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Quixall
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Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed.
There are lies, followed by downright lies........and then, there are statistics 
Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed.
Don't call other people mugs.Exoddus wrote:Too many mugs on this forum. I told you all about Audley, and I told you all about Fury. Yet no one listens.
http://forum.boxrec.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 63#p924463Exoddus wrote:Where can I bet that Khan will never be world champion?
OK? :P
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knightster
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Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed.
Fury has only had a few fights. I know he is being over hyped (especially by his own camp), but hype sells tickets, gets the TV coverage and pays the bills, lets just give him a fair crack of the whip. He's young for a heavy weight.
Taking away the controversy of Friday night (the result wasn't his fault), he showed good heart and a good fighting spirit. Let’s wait and see.
Taking away the controversy of Friday night (the result wasn't his fault), he showed good heart and a good fighting spirit. Let’s wait and see.
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oliverfennell
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Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed.
If you say EVERYTHING is shite, then you're bound to have a few "told you so"s come to pass.Exoddus wrote:Too many mugs on this forum. I told you all about Audley, and I told you all about Fury. Yet no one listens.
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funso banjo baby
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Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed.
yet another stupid thread
you guys all reckoned:
Dave Howe was a world beater ????
all reckoned Scott Belshaw was the second coming???
all reckoned Tyson Fury would blast his way to the world title???
ur basically like all the stacy goodson guys going on about Chapman.
u guys are easy to spot...you always have the 'gym' talk
silly
his name from now on is not Tyson Fury...
its PRIMO FISTING
you guys all reckoned:
Dave Howe was a world beater ????
all reckoned Scott Belshaw was the second coming???
all reckoned Tyson Fury would blast his way to the world title???
ur basically like all the stacy goodson guys going on about Chapman.
u guys are easy to spot...you always have the 'gym' talk
silly
his name from now on is not Tyson Fury...
its PRIMO FISTING
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Hagler2002
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Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed.
You seem to be quite obsessed with this.funso banjo baby wrote:
his name from now on is not Tyson Fury...
its PRIMO FISTING
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funso banjo baby
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Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed.
im gripped with mainstream Tyson Fury mania
this is JD Chapman all over again.
we going to shake up the world with a series of annoying threads about a completly inept boxer
this is JD Chapman all over again.
we going to shake up the world with a series of annoying threads about a completly inept boxer
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Hagler2002
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Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed.
You and Flint Island should go compare notes on stalking techniques.funso banjo baby wrote:im gripped with mainstream Tyson Fury mania
this is JD Chapman all over again.
we going to shake up the world with a series of annoying threads about a completly inept boxer
Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed.
JD Chapman is quite good.funso banjo baby wrote:im gripped with mainstream Tyson Fury mania
this is JD Chapman all over again.
we going to shake up the world with a series of annoying threads about a completly inept boxer
David Haye ducked him.
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funso banjo baby
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Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed.
exactly
chapman was soooo bad and soooo overyhyped on boxrec...that not getting a big fight literally made him disappear
and not even a punch thrown in anger
oh for that to happen to Primo Fisting
as i always maintained on the stacy goodson threads...'ultimately the public willl not be Chapmaned by a load of Donnels ' !
chapman was soooo bad and soooo overyhyped on boxrec...that not getting a big fight literally made him disappear
and not even a punch thrown in anger
oh for that to happen to Primo Fisting
as i always maintained on the stacy goodson threads...'ultimately the public willl not be Chapmaned by a load of Donnels ' !
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forcefraser
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Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed. (Merged)
Give Fury some credit. He stuck in there and he took some heavy shots.
However, it was his lack of power that dissapointed me. Never had McDermot in trouble. Against a heavyweight with speed and a decent shot, the geezer is going to struggle big time.
However, it was his lack of power that dissapointed me. Never had McDermot in trouble. Against a heavyweight with speed and a decent shot, the geezer is going to struggle big time.
Re: Fury how good is he?
What level do you predict he will reach?Spud wrote:I am not giving up on him just yet.
He is young and last nights fight and the way it went will be a massive learning curve for him - I completely agree with everyone who says Fury lost the fight - however Fury stuck in there when the likes of Audley would have dive bombed into the canvass - Fury is clearly at one of them crossroads - in my view he clearly has talent but there is also clearly a lot of work to be done.
Do not give up on him just yet.
Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed. (Merged)
Fury made McDermott turn away a few times. I think he did get to McDermott a bit, late on in the fight.forcefraser wrote:However, it was his lack of power that dissapointed me. Never had McDermot in trouble.
Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed. (Merged)
If I was Furys manager, i would do a "JD Chapman". i.e build up a record of 40 wins. cos when he fights a live one, he's toast.
Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed. (Merged)
Fury's fight with McDermott was a big step up in class for him and he was competetive against McDermott.Abbo wrote:If I was Furys manager, i would do a "JD Chapman". i.e build up a record of 40 wins. cos when he fights a live one, he's toast.
If Fury can get just a bit better then he will be at British title class.
Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed.
Go on lad, great shoutAsterix wrote:Don't call other people mugs.Exoddus wrote:Too many mugs on this forum. I told you all about Audley, and I told you all about Fury. Yet no one listens.
http://forum.boxrec.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 63#p924463Exoddus wrote:Where can I bet that Khan will never be world champion?
OK? :P
Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed. (Merged)
At most IMO, McDermott showed up his limitations and he is only a quality domestic gatekeeperHorse wrote:Fury's fight with McDermott was a big step up in class for him and he was competetive against McDermott.Abbo wrote:If I was Furys manager, i would do a "JD Chapman". i.e build up a record of 40 wins. cos when he fights a live one, he's toast.
If Fury can get just a bit better then he will be at British title class.
Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed. (Merged)
He's just 21, Coco - lot of physical muturing left in him.
Lets see what he is like with his man strength. Experience is the key, and he will get alot more experience. He expanded alot of nervous energy in the introduction - wasting it through his talking, smiling and prancing about.
Remember Danny Williams's first match with Julius Francis... he did okay in his career, and many see him as an under achiever.
He got exposed a bit, but he passed alot of tests aswell.... How will he react when he takes on on the chin - Pretty good, good natural survival instincts (he was pretty fecked at some stages), showed some heart.
Alot of what he "failed" on will improve with age/experience. For me, his stamina is questionable... that can be worked on, his power will improve when he matures, defence will improve with experience. etc.
So I still think there is alot to like and be encouraged about in the future and its still impossible to predict what level he will end up on. Especially in the weak devision, its all down to how he learns from this fight.
Lets see what he is like with his man strength. Experience is the key, and he will get alot more experience. He expanded alot of nervous energy in the introduction - wasting it through his talking, smiling and prancing about.
Remember Danny Williams's first match with Julius Francis... he did okay in his career, and many see him as an under achiever.
He got exposed a bit, but he passed alot of tests aswell.... How will he react when he takes on on the chin - Pretty good, good natural survival instincts (he was pretty fecked at some stages), showed some heart.
Alot of what he "failed" on will improve with age/experience. For me, his stamina is questionable... that can be worked on, his power will improve when he matures, defence will improve with experience. etc.
So I still think there is alot to like and be encouraged about in the future and its still impossible to predict what level he will end up on. Especially in the weak devision, its all down to how he learns from this fight.
Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed. (Merged)
I'm not saying he can't improve, that is why i'm saying he could win a domestic title rather than an area one but you can't turn water into winestujones wrote:He's just 21, Coco - lot of physical muturing left in him.
Lets see what he is like with his man strength. Experience is the key, and he will get alot more experience. He expanded alot of nervous energy in the introduction - wasting it through his talking, smiling and prancing about.
Remember Danny Williams's first match with Julius Francis... he did okay in his career, and many see him as an under achiever.
He got exposed a bit, but he passed alot of tests aswell.... How will he react when he takes on on the chin - Pretty good, good natural survival instincts (he was pretty fecked at some stages), showed some heart.
Alot of what he "failed" on will improve with age/experience. For me, his stamina is questionable... that can be worked on, his power will improve when he matures, defence will improve with experience. etc.
So I still think there is alot to like and be encouraged about in the future and its still impossible to predict what level he will end up on. Especially in the weak devision, its all down to how he learns from this fight.
Danny Williams has only ever reached top domestic standard
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I'd be alot more hopeful of Fury if say he had a knockout punch. There's alot for him to improve, and alot of time for him to do so, but will he ever be able to dramatically improve his power?
I don't believe so, and on that note, Price is a bigger prospect imo.
I don't believe so, and on that note, Price is a bigger prospect imo.
Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed. (Merged)
Fury got beaten by Smiffy from Gavin & Stacey. Simples.
Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed. (Merged)
Lets wait to see Price being tested before hailing him as the next george foreman (I know you didn't) - its very early days for Price.jBacca wrote:I'd be alot more hopeful of Fury if say he had a knockout punch. There's alot for him to improve, and alot of time for him to do so, but will he ever be able to dramatically improve his power?
I don't believe so, and on that note, Price is a bigger prospect imo.
Fury's power will come better when he has his man strength.
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I simply don't think that's the case Stu - I genuinely can't envisage a scenario where Fury suddenly starts developing KO power. Struggling to think of a single example at heavyweight where that's happened...stujones wrote: Fury's power will come better when he has his man strength.
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mickey1975
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Re: Tyson Fury.. the raw facts, lets put this to bed. (Merged)
exactly,he is 21 ffs.heavyweights mature late anyway.the only reason he is getting so much stick is because of his mouth.he looked fooked because he genuinely thought he was only going to be doing 2-3 rounds.he stuck it out though,and showed a good chin.loads to learn and loads of time to learn it.still a great prospect,could do with getting a new trainer though,no disrespect to egan but he is an amatuer man.give him a chance lads,we all know he lost,but its not his faultstujones wrote:Lets wait to see Price being tested before hailing him as the next george foreman (I know you didn't) - its very early days for Price.jBacca wrote:I'd be alot more hopeful of Fury if say he had a knockout punch. There's alot for him to improve, and alot of time for him to do so, but will he ever be able to dramatically improve his power?
I don't believe so, and on that note, Price is a bigger prospect imo.
Fury's power will come better when he has his man strength.