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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 10:13
by BigDoofus
maverick23 wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 09:19
BigDoofus wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 07:02
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 04:34 i dunno mate, but im sure he'd make an even bigger purse to fight jake paul , ksi, or thor than to fight chisora
Who is eligible to fight for the title that will earn him a bigger purse on 3 December?
Andy Ruiz.
"Andy Ruiz Jr. is not expected back in training until November, ruling out the notion of a fight with Tyson Fury in December.

The fact Ruiz is on vacation also halts any plans to face Anthony Joshua on December 17."

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 10:21
by maverick23
BigDoofus wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 10:13
maverick23 wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 09:19
BigDoofus wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 07:02

Who is eligible to fight for the title that will earn him a bigger purse on 3 December?
Andy Ruiz.
"Andy Ruiz Jr. is not expected back in training until November, ruling out the notion of a fight with Tyson Fury in December.

The fact Ruiz is on vacation also halts any plans to face Anthony Joshua on December 17."
Yeah - I think that’s from the same article where Ruiz’s dad mentioned no one had been in contact re: the Fury fight.

They made the first offer to Chisora in August. If they’d Ruiz an offer not long after his fight against Ortiz then I’m sure he’d have been interested.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 10:25
by big lennox
BigDoofus wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 08:06
big lennox wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 07:14 It will be interesting to see how full, or empty, the stadium is on fight night. I saw am interview with George Groves and he hinted that Stub Hub will have bought the 50,000 tickets and will then be trying to sell them on to make more, but the ticket resales take up hadn't been great.
More of your Daily Fury nonsense :lol:
No less funny than you arguing black is white on the subject of Fury and Joshua and Chisora. I think, between us, we provide good comedic value👌

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 10:31
by big lennox
maverick23 wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 10:21
BigDoofus wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 10:13
maverick23 wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 09:19

Andy Ruiz.
"Andy Ruiz Jr. is not expected back in training until November, ruling out the notion of a fight with Tyson Fury in December.

The fact Ruiz is on vacation also halts any plans to face Anthony Joshua on December 17."
Yeah - I think that’s from the same article where Ruiz’s dad mentioned no one had been in contact re: the Fury fight.

They made the first offer to Chisora in August. If they’d Ruiz an offer not long after his fight against Ortiz then I’m sure he’d have been interested.
Correct. I am pretty sure if they had given anyone adequate notice, they would sign up for a shot at a portion of the Heavyweight title. Fury is the new Jake Paul. Same business model, hence doesn't like being asked questions about it without having a paddy.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 12:14
by BigDoofus
big lennox wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 10:31 Correct. I am pretty sure if they had given anyone adequate notice, they would sign up for a shot at a portion of the Heavyweight title.
You've set me up for a tap-in there :lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 12:16
by Finkel
maverick23 wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 10:21
BigDoofus wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 10:13
maverick23 wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 09:19

Andy Ruiz.
"Andy Ruiz Jr. is not expected back in training until November, ruling out the notion of a fight with Tyson Fury in December.

The fact Ruiz is on vacation also halts any plans to face Anthony Joshua on December 17."
Yeah - I think that’s from the same article where Ruiz’s dad mentioned no one had been in contact re: the Fury fight.

They made the first offer to Chisora in August. If they’d Ruiz an offer not long after his fight against Ortiz then I’m sure he’d have been interested.
Exactly, he clearly only had eyes for Del Boy.

You'd have to be a right mug to believe any different.

August 8th, Fury is in the media about wanting to fight Chisora. Only problem was, Chisora was top 20 after beating Pulev, not top 15. Then a week or so later...

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 12:33
by margaret thatcher
BigDoofus wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 07:02
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 04:34 i dunno mate, but im sure he'd make an even bigger purse to fight jake paul , ksi, or thor than to fight chisora
Who is eligible to fight for the title that will earn him a bigger purse on 3 December?
sheeyat bruh, why does he even need to have a title fight, a non-title fight vs one of them would easily earn him more than fighting chizzy. maybe aj or wilder will go for it instead, by your logic something like aj-ksi would be the best fight around lol

with the fury-chisora series being so turdy up to now, i'd think you could get greater interest from many of the contenders mentioned. maybe then poor tyson wouldnt have to worry about getting his knickers in a twist because people tell him the fight is sh!t. maybe then his team wouldnt have to come up with an embarrassing lie 'first ever trilogy at heavyweight' to promote the fight :lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 12:49
by margaret thatcher
Finkel wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 12:16
maverick23 wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 10:21
BigDoofus wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 10:13

"Andy Ruiz Jr. is not expected back in training until November, ruling out the notion of a fight with Tyson Fury in December.

The fact Ruiz is on vacation also halts any plans to face Anthony Joshua on December 17."
Yeah - I think that’s from the same article where Ruiz’s dad mentioned no one had been in contact re: the Fury fight.

They made the first offer to Chisora in August. If they’d Ruiz an offer not long after his fight against Ortiz then I’m sure he’d have been interested.
Exactly, he clearly only had eyes for Del Boy.

You'd have to be a right mug to believe any different.

August 8th, Fury is in the media about wanting to fight Chisora. Only problem was, Chisora was top 20 after beating Pulev, not top 15. Then a week or so later...
:TU:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 13:15
by The Gratest
All about dem historic trilogies.

Fury v Wilder
Fury v Chisora

It's all building up to the final historic showdown...

Fury v Big Bad John McD 3 with 80k at Wembley.

Fwank will sell it off...
Coming off a layoff, so fresh as a daisy
A record of 3-2 in his last 5 fights, which is a better record than Joshua's last 5 fights
Pushed Fury closer then anyone ever has, so deserves one more chance
Beat Matt Skelton in his last fight. Joshua avoided Skelton on the way up.
60k tickets sold on the first day.
History in the making.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 13:18
by margaret thatcher
:yay:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 13:19
by mickey1975
The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 13:15 All about dem historic trilogies.

Fury v Wilder
Fury v Chisora

It's all building up to the final historic showdown...

Fury v Big Bad John McD 3 with 80k at Wembley.

Fwank will sell it off...
Coming off a layoff, so fresh as a daisy
A record of 3-2 in his last 5 fights, which is a better record than Joshua's last 5 fights
Pushed Fury closer then anyone ever has, so deserves one more chance
Beat Matt Skelton in his last fight. Joshua avoided Skelton on the way up.
60k tickets sold on the first day.
History in the making.
Aj boxed Skelton…..

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 13:25
by The Gratest
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 13:19
The Gratest wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 13:15 All about dem historic trilogies.

Fury v Wilder
Fury v Chisora

It's all building up to the final historic showdown...

Fury v Big Bad John McD 3 with 80k at Wembley.

Fwank will sell it off...
Coming off a layoff, so fresh as a daisy
A record of 3-2 in his last 5 fights, which is a better record than Joshua's last 5 fights
Pushed Fury closer then anyone ever has, so deserves one more chance
Beat Matt Skelton in his last fight. Joshua avoided Skelton on the way up.
60k tickets sold on the first day.
History in the making.
Aj boxed Skelton…..
Bloody Fwank, lying again!

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 15:31
by high tower 1
1103924 wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 09:21
Coco wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 06:47
1103924 wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 05:05

He's not a traveller.
Really ? Fooled me

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 06:43
by Ruthless-RKO
Tyson Fury believes Derek Chisora the same level of challenge as Oleksandr Usyk

“I don’t know why, because Usyk beat Joshua, didn’t he, quite easily. And Chisora pushed Usyk all the way, 50/50 fight. So if Chisora’s no good then neither is Usyk, ‘cause I rate them about the same.”

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 06:44
by Ruthless-RKO
Chisora troubled Usyk, yes, but for like the first 2-3 rounds..

Scorecards were way to close and Bellend was way too loud.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 07:02
by maverick23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Nov 2022, 06:44 Chisora troubled Usyk, yes, but for like the first 2-3 rounds..

Scorecards were way to close and Bellend was way too loud.
Yeah - whilst I thought Usyk beat Chisora and beat AJ in both fights, the most competitive of the 3 for me was the AJ rematch. I didn’t think the Chisora fight was close.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 07:16
by Ruthless-RKO
maverick23 wrote: 02 Nov 2022, 07:02
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Nov 2022, 06:44 Chisora troubled Usyk, yes, but for like the first 2-3 rounds..

Scorecards were way to close and Bellend was way too loud.
Yeah - whilst I thought Usyk beat Chisora and beat AJ in both fights, the most competitive of the 3 for me was the AJ rematch. I didn’t think the Chisora fight was close.
I agree. Most competitive was throughout was the AJ rematch, but I still had Usyk a comfortable winner. The SD ruins it a bit made it seem AJ could've won.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 07:48
by joshj909
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Nov 2022, 07:16
maverick23 wrote: 02 Nov 2022, 07:02
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Nov 2022, 06:44 Chisora troubled Usyk, yes, but for like the first 2-3 rounds..

Scorecards were way to close and Bellend was way too loud.
Yeah - whilst I thought Usyk beat Chisora and beat AJ in both fights, the most competitive of the 3 for me was the AJ rematch. I didn’t think the Chisora fight was close.
I agree. Most competitive was throughout was the AJ rematch, but I still had Usyk a comfortable winner. The SD ruins it a bit made it seem AJ could've won.
I think I gave Chisora 2 or 3 rounds. After the third round he was a punching bag and it was barely competitive. Despite not have any truly dominant rounds like Chisora's opening rounds, AJ remained somewhat competitive throughout in both fights despite comfortably losing most of the rounds.

It's just a myth created by Matchroom/Sky which has now been used against them to peddle Fury's legacy in the same way that Fury fans think Wilder is so great because he beat Ortiz who is so great because he... was a bogeyman?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 13:58
by Verdi
tiny_acres wrote: 31 Oct 2022, 18:17 I actually am hoping for the upset. It would be nice to see Chisora go out a winner and it would be really sweet to bring Fury down a peg or 2
Then retire with the belt.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 13:59
by Verdi
The Gratest wrote: 30 Oct 2022, 18:52 He seemed very agitated from the start. Maybe midway through his training cycle?
Coke

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 14:12
by Verdi
BigDoofus wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 07:02
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Nov 2022, 04:34 i dunno mate, but im sure he'd make an even bigger purse to fight jake paul , ksi, or thor than to fight chisora
Who is eligible to fight for the title that will earn him a bigger purse on 3 December?
Who did he reach out and offer a fight to?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 14:22
by margaret thatcher
joshj909 wrote: 02 Nov 2022, 07:48
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Nov 2022, 07:16
maverick23 wrote: 02 Nov 2022, 07:02

Yeah - whilst I thought Usyk beat Chisora and beat AJ in both fights, the most competitive of the 3 for me was the AJ rematch. I didn’t think the Chisora fight was close.
I agree. Most competitive was throughout was the AJ rematch, but I still had Usyk a comfortable winner. The SD ruins it a bit made it seem AJ could've won.
I think I gave Chisora 2 or 3 rounds. After the third round he was a punching bag and it was barely competitive. Despite not have any truly dominant rounds like Chisora's opening rounds, AJ remained somewhat competitive throughout in both fights despite comfortably losing most of the rounds.

It's just a myth created by Matchroom/Sky which has now been used against them to peddle Fury's legacy in the same way that Fury fans think Wilder is so great because he beat Ortiz who is so great because he... was a bogeyman?
agree, i didnt give del anything after the 2nd, he could barely put a glove on usyk after that. the matchroom reaction was laughable

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 14:23
by margaret thatcher
not to mention if this is an aj-chizz comparison, chizz has lost 5 times to guys aj has beat, aj has lost 0 times to guys chisora has beat

aj has the vastly stronger record because he's better and has beaten the type of guys chisora loses to

and yes, fury fans certainly love them some wilder :lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 15:04
by joshj909
margaret thatcher wrote: 02 Nov 2022, 14:23 not to mention if this is an aj-chizz comparison, chizz has lost 5 times to guys aj has beat, aj has lost 0 times to guys chisora has beat

aj has the vastly stronger record because he's better and has beaten the type of guys chisora loses to

and yes, fury fans certainly love them some wilder :lol:
Chisora's record Vs relevant guys who have also faced Fury/AJ/Wilder/Whyte:
- Pulev 1*-1 (0-1 by KO Vs AJ).
- Parker 0-2 (0-1 Vs Whyte & AJ)
- Usyk 0-1 (2-0 Vs AJ)
- Whyte 0-2 (0-1 by KO Vs AJ & Fury)
- Fury 0-2 (1-0 Vs Whyte & 2-0-1* Vs Wilder)
- Helenius 0-1* (0-2 Vs Whyte & Wilder)

It's not even debatable that Chisora is well below the level of these guys.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

Posted: 03 Nov 2022, 05:23
by Heretic
Chisoras fights are quite hard to score. He is big dude that is throwing wide looping punches. Looks pretty impressive. In reality he is landing very little clean punches. I guess casuals will always give him better scores than the people that actually know what they are watching.

This might be the most unnecessary rematch in the history of the sport. Just pure cash grab. I hope it backfires somehow. Waste of time.

Fury managed to avoid one of the more necessary rematches against Wlad and instead make the least necessary one in history :OhYes: