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Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 23 May 2009, 17:35
by Finn
Just watch the first knock out and his reaction to the camera afterwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQYsCyFcMJA

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 23 May 2009, 17:58
by n1ebf
kingfinn wrote:Just watch the first knock out and his reaction to the camera afterwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQYsCyFcMJA
sure do :box:

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 23 May 2009, 18:01
by Quixall
I would have loved to have seen Eubank fight in the states......

and to have stepped up in class and fought a Hopkins, Jones or Toney.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 23 May 2009, 18:06
by Hagler2002
Quixall wrote:I would have loved to have seen Eubank fight in the states......

and to have stepped up in class and fought a Hopkins, Jones or Toney.

He did dipshit and moved to the UK because he wasn't good enough to cut it with the best the yanks had to offer.

One of the most overrated fighters this country has ever had.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 23 May 2009, 18:13
by n1ebf
Hagler2002 wrote:
Quixall wrote:I would have loved to have seen Eubank fight in the states......

and to have stepped up in class and fought a Hopkins, Jones or Toney.

He did dipshit and moved to the UK because he wasn't good enough to cut it with the best the yanks had to offer.

One of the most overrated fighters this country has ever had.
you'd invite him to Byker Grove and give him a whupping yes?

by the way most people on here have been around long enough to know when we see someone ripping off other people's more original posts...
"Is English your first language?"....isn't yours. You pinched it off someone to make yourself look funny/ clever.
Just so as you know people can see it.... :TU:

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 23 May 2009, 18:15
by Quixall
Hagler2002 wrote:
Quixall wrote:I would have loved to have seen Eubank fight in the states......

and to have stepped up in class and fought a Hopkins, Jones or Toney.

He did dipshit and moved to the UK because he wasn't good enough to cut it with the best the yanks had to offer.

One of the most overrated fighters this country has ever had.
He was also turned away and paid up from Brendan Ingle's gym, when he was hired to spar with Herol Graham, but that did'nt stop him eventually becoming a middleweight champion, something Herol Graham failed to achieve. Fighters are allowed to improve and mature with age and Eubank was in this catagory. The fighter who beat Benn and Watson, bore no resemblance to the guy whgo was in the states for a short time, very early on in his career. Another example of a fighter similar to Eubank, would be Johnny Nelson, he lost his first three professional fights, but went onto become a world champion.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 23 May 2009, 18:25
by Hagler2002
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
you'd invite him to Byker Grove and give him a whupping yes?
I invited you and guess what you shít it :lol:

Does your keyboard not reach that far :box:

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 23 May 2009, 18:34
by n1ebf
Hagler2002 wrote:
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
you'd invite him to Byker Grove and give him a whupping yes?
I invited you and guess what you shít it :lol:

Does your keyboard not reach that far :box:
I don't think you're bona fide. Go round looking for a side street garage to pick a fight with a stranger who won't know what the fck's going on or have a clue what I'm on about. Jog on muppet.
Besides, my fights come to me, I don't look for them and I don't take any pleasure from beating on weaker individuals.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 23 May 2009, 18:35
by jamesmcdonnell
Hagler2002 wrote:
Quixall wrote:I would have loved to have seen Eubank fight in the states......

and to have stepped up in class and fought a Hopkins, Jones or Toney.

He did dipshit and moved to the UK because he wasn't good enough to cut it with the best the yanks had to offer.

One of the most overrated fighters this country has ever had.
What a silly comment. The guy beat Benn and Watson, who were two of the best at the weight in the world. Moved up to cruiserweight and nearly beat Carl Thompson conceding a tonne of weight against a much bigger stronger man.

Eubank had some off nights and had some problems with motivation and temperament, but he was an absolute lion in the ring when pushed.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 23 May 2009, 18:42
by Hagler2002
He had plenty more off nights than good ones, I agree his greatest victorys were against Benn & Watson in 1990 & 1991 after that he clearly lost to Malinga, Close, Benn II, Schommer.

Yet seemed to get the nod every time due to his huge world tour deal with sky.

In my opinion Benn advanced after the Eubank defeat, Eubank regressed.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 23 May 2009, 18:59
by Quixall
Hagler2002 wrote:He had plenty more off nights than good ones, I agree his greatest victorys were against Benn & Watson in 1990 & 1991 after that he clearly lost to Malinga, Close, Benn II, Schommer.

Yet seemed to get the nod every time due to his huge world tour deal with sky.

In my opinion Benn advanced after the Eubank defeat, Eubank regressed.
Benn advanced....Why did he ? After the draw in 1993, they both took similar routes.

Apart from the McClellan victory, where Benn nearly got knocked out early doors and perhaps only won because of the onset of McClellans injury, what did he do differently to Eubank ?

Eubank lost to Collins twice and Benn lost to Collins twice and to Malinga aswell.....

They were both at their individual peaks when they met the first and second times and both of those fights took a lot out of both men and they were never the same afterwards.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 23 May 2009, 19:24
by n1ebf
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
Hagler2002 wrote:
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
you'd invite him to Byker Grove and give him a whupping yes?
I invited you and guess what you shít it :lol:

Does your keyboard not reach that far :box:
I don't think you're bona fide. Go round looking for a side street garage to pick a fight with a stranger who won't know what the fck's going on or have a clue what I'm on about. Jog on muppet.
Besides, my fights come to me, I don't look for them and I don't take any pleasure from beating on weaker individuals.
Thanks for that address Hagler2002 why don't you PM me a picture tough guy so I can see what a chump you are.
In fact let us all see old man :lol:
You're probably busy texting FLIRT to 68889 between posts chump.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 23 May 2009, 21:19
by coneye
Has to wether or not he was the best well we will never no . Because he did'nt fight the best , ( meaning the best yanks ).

But was he good my facking oath he was , quick hands , good no great chin , strong at the weight well balanced, had a decent dig ,. i LOVE THE WAY HE COULD CROWD HIS OPPONENT THEN JUST STEP BACK AND GIVE HIMSELF ROOM . a trait a lot can't seem too do now, plus he earnt a shit load off money and kept his marbles , so over all i think you can safely say even if he was'nt simply the best , he was up there with the best.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 24 May 2009, 04:21
by rob h
Now now boys, play nicely.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 24 May 2009, 06:14
by Finn
From what i remember of that time the British absolutely owned that division anyway?

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 24 May 2009, 18:00
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
kingfinn wrote:From what i remember of that time the British absolutely owned that division anyway?
No after Hagler/Leonard the best middleweights were: Nunn, McCallum, Kalambay, Graham:

Nunn beat Kalambay, Barkley, Curry, Starling
McCallum beat Kalambay, Graham, Mike Watson, Steve Collins

Nunn and McCallum proved to be the best of the lot, then Toney beat Nunn and Toney and McCallum squared off for middleweight supremecy.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 25 May 2009, 11:32
by Finn
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
kingfinn wrote:From what i remember of that time the British absolutely owned that division anyway?
No after Hagler/Leonard the best middleweights were: Nunn, McCallum, Kalambay, Graham:

Nunn beat Kalambay, Barkley, Curry, Starling
McCallum beat Kalambay, Graham, Mike Watson, Steve Collins

Nunn and McCallum proved to be the best of the lot, then Toney beat Nunn and Toney and McCallum squared off for middleweight supremecy.
Thats the age i just got into boxing about 8 i was. Although i remember recently Toney dissing Calzaghe before the lacey fight saying the only world class fighter he's ever beat was eubank.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 25 May 2009, 12:04
by Khaosai-Galaxy
In the 90's we had Chris Eubank adopting a hilarious accent, wearing a monacle and jodhpurs and driving that truck out of Night Rider around Brighton (and killing bystanders in the process)


what do we get now?



this
Froch has been known to relieve the boredom of long hours in training camp with his guitar singing Johnny Cash covers but it will come as no surprise to Froch fans to hear that his favourite Rod Stewart album is “Never a Dull Moment”!

You couldnt make it up..........

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 30 May 2009, 09:06
by coghaugen11
coneye wrote:Has to wether or not he was the best well we will never no . Because he did'nt fight the best , ( meaning the best yanks ).

But was he good my facking oath he was , quick hands , good no great chin , strong at the weight well balanced, had a decent dig ,. i LOVE THE WAY HE COULD CROWD HIS OPPONENT THEN JUST STEP BACK AND GIVE HIMSELF ROOM . a trait a lot can't seem too do now, plus he earnt a poop load off money and kept his marbles , so over all i think you can safely say even if he was'nt simply the best , he was up there with the best.
Eubank was the King of creating space.

And look beyond the strutting/posturing to study his ring generalship and you'll see that there must have been very few, if none, who mastered that better.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 30 May 2009, 09:09
by coghaugen11
Quixall wrote:
Hagler2002 wrote:
Quixall wrote:I would have loved to have seen Eubank fight in the states......

and to have stepped up in class and fought a Hopkins, Jones or Toney.

He did dipshit and moved to the UK because he wasn't good enough to cut it with the best the yanks had to offer.

One of the most overrated fighters this country has ever had.
He was also turned away and paid up from Brendan Ingle's gym, when he was hired to spar with Herol Graham,.
Eubank was punching too hard and refused to hold blows. He knocked down Graham twice (though it was probably the only two punches he landed on HEROL!).

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 30 May 2009, 09:15
by streak
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:In the 90's we had Chris Eubank adopting a hilarious accent, wearing a monacle and jodhpurs and driving that truck out of Night Rider around Brighton (and killing bystanders in the process)


what do we get now?



this
Froch has been known to relieve the boredom of long hours in training camp with his guitar singing Johnny Cash covers but it will come as no surprise to Froch fans to hear that his favourite Rod Stewart album is “Never a Dull Moment”!

You couldnt make it up..........
:lol:

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 30 May 2009, 09:27
by coghaugen11
Hagler2002 wrote:He had plenty more off nights than good ones, I agree his greatest victorys were against Benn & Watson in 1990 & 1991 after that he clearly lost to Malinga, Close, Benn II, Schommer.

Yet seemed to get the nod every time due to his huge world tour deal with sky.

In my opinion Benn advanced after the Eubank defeat, Eubank regressed.
I think he clearly beat Malinga, in difficult circumstances with what happened the fight before.

He stunk out Portugal against Ron Essett, but let's not forget that was his third fight in four months and he was coming off killing a man on top of paralysing another man. Against Rocchigiani in Germany he was magnificent. Against Henry W he made up for the previous four fights.

I agree he regressed after Benn I (other than flashes early in Watson I). The young Eubank who fought Cronin was up there with the Ali who fought Williams and Naz who fought Belcastro, IMO.

Johnny Melfah didn't get punched over against Benn (ABA final), Graham, Collins or Milo and Eubank flattened him, shattering his jaw in the process and concussing him for a week.

He looked really good against Cronin, Corti, Logan, Melfah, Milo, Randy Smith, and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jklzql4MPPg and he was about 21-22.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 31 May 2009, 04:07
by bennie
coghaugen11 wrote:
Hagler2002 wrote:He had plenty more off nights than good ones, I agree his greatest victorys were against Benn & Watson in 1990 & 1991 after that he clearly lost to Malinga, Close, Benn II, Schommer.

Yet seemed to get the nod every time due to his huge world tour deal with sky.

In my opinion Benn advanced after the Eubank defeat, Eubank regressed.
I think he clearly beat Malinga, in difficult circumstances with what happened the fight before.

He stunk out Portugal against Ron Essett, but let's not forget that was his third fight in four months and he was coming off killing a man on top of paralysing another man. Against Rocchigiani in Germany he was magnificent. Against Henry W he made up for the previous four fights.

I agree he regressed after Benn I (other than flashes early in Watson I). The young Eubank who fought Cronin was up there with the Ali who fought Williams and Naz who fought Belcastro, IMO.

Johnny Melfah didn't get punched over against Benn (ABA final), Graham, Collins or Milo and Eubank flattened him, shattering his jaw in the process and concussing him for a week.

He looked really good against Cronin, Corti, Logan, Melfah, Milo, Randy Smith, and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jklzql4MPPg and he was about 21-22.
You both raise some interesting points, although (just to be rather too fastidious) I seem to recall that Eubank stunk the joint out against the cute Randy Smith, while Benn did stop Melfah in the 1986 ABA middleweight finals and was on the verge of putting him down when the ref rescued Johnny. Melfah was reeling all over the ring.
Coincidentally, another good amateur middleweight, Brian Schumacher, licked Henry Maske in the unpaid ranks.

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 31 May 2009, 11:19
by hitman_hatton1
he didn't come back home cos he wasn't good enough. :o

that was bernard dunne ya talking about. :lol:

Re: Dont you wish this guy was still about?

Posted: 31 May 2009, 15:34
by Arbachakov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQTuJv2skEg

I'd rather have this guy(conteh) fighting today than Eubank for sure.

Watching this fight, i'd forgot what a master boxer-puncher he was.Even though he wasted a lot of his talent, not many British fighters have even come close since.I wonder if we have the trainers in this country to produce a technician of that quality any time soon.Haven't seean a British fighter who knew how to slip punches like that in a long time.