Rendall Munroe V Toshiaki Nishioka

[Steve89]

Munroe's next fight is said to be Simone Maludrottu which Maloney is trying to get the WBC to make an eliminator fight. If Munroe wins this he gets a title shot against Nishioka.
What do you fellas think Munroe's chances are?
Looking at clips of Nishioka on youtube, he looks good but not that good but it's hard to judge on what little I've seen. He is quite small at the weight too.
Is this the right fight for Munroe to be going after?

BTW I reckon Munroe whips Dunne who is a glorified club fighter who got lucky facing a crap champion.

[slapbangwhallop]

Munroe's next fight is said to be Simone Maludrottu which Maloney is trying to get the WBC to make an eliminator fight. If Munroe wins this he gets a title shot against Nishioka.
What do you fellas think Munroe's chances are?
Looking at clips of Nishioka on youtube, he looks good but not that good but it's hard to judge on what little I've seen. He is quite small at the weight too.
Is this the right fight for Munroe to be going after?

BTW I reckon Munroe whips Dunne who is a glorified club fighter who got lucky facing a crap champion.

should be a good fight!

if anyone is a glorified club fighter its Munroe! he has fought no one!

thats not to say he's a bad fighter - he's not. But this fight will tell us a lot about the binman! good luck to him, I hope he does it!

[Cannibal]

BTW I reckon Munroe whips Dunne who is a glorified club fighter who got lucky facing a crap champion.

Hahaha, good one. There is a far outside chance that he could beat Dunne but he would never "whip" him. Simple club fighters don't have good amateur careers and and receive EBU and World titles.

And to call Cordoba a crap champion is farcical. The only loss on his record before Dunne was a split decision against the talented Poonsawat. He also had a win against Caballero. He nearly had Dunne out of there on the night too and was ahead on the cards but Dunne showed good heart. It was a great win for Dunne against a good fighter.

If you consider Dunne to be a club fighter, then I'd hate to think what Munroe is with the calibre of fighter he's defended his EBU title against and struggled with.

[Steve89]

BTW I reckon Munroe whips Dunne who is a glorified club fighter who got lucky facing a crap champion.

Hahaha, good one. There is a far outside chance that he could beat Dunne but he would never "whip" him. Simple club fighters don't have good amateur careers and and receive EBU and World titles.

And to call Cordoba a crap champion is farcical. The only loss on his record before Dunne was a split decision against the talented Poonsawat. He also had a win against Caballero. He nearly had Dunne out of there on the night too and was ahead on the cards but Dunne showed good heart. It was a great win for Dunne against a good fighter.

If you consider Dunne to be a club fighter, then I'd hate to think what Munroe is with the calibre of fighter he's defended his EBU title against and struggled with.

Kiko exposed Dunne. Munroe would do the same, why do you think Dunne won't fight him?

[Cannibal]

Kiko had power and Dunne an unsteady chin. He caught him before Dunne could make himself wary of his punch. Doesn't make Dunne a bad fighter to be taken out in such a way, just that he got caught. All that it proved is that if you connect with power, you can floor Dunne hard.

Munroe doesn't have Kiko's power, so he'd likely have to go a full 12 with Dunne to win, and over 12 rounds, I don't see him out boxing Dunne.

I see Dunne being stopped eventually but not against Munroe.

Plus, Dunne was MORE than willing to fight Munroe and Brian Peters offered him a career best purse to come to Dublin but himself and Frank Maloney showed no interest until Dunne beat Cordoba, and now Dunne is looking at bigger fights.

[Steve89]

Kiko had power and Dunne an unsteady chin. He caught him before Dunne could make himself wary of his punch. Doesn't make Dunne a bad fighter to be taken out in such a way, just that he got caught. All that it proved is that if you connect with power, you can floor Dunne hard.

Munroe doesn't have Kiko's power, so he'd likely have to go a full 12 with Dunne to win, and over 12 rounds, I don't see him out boxing Dunne.

I see Dunne being stopped eventually but not against Munroe.

Plus, Dunne was MORE than willing to fight Munroe and Brian Peters offered him a career best purse to come to Dublin but himself and Frank Maloney showed no interest until Dunne beat Cordoba, and now Dunne is looking at bigger fights.

Nah man Rendall is too fast, too slick, too big, and way too skilled for Dunne.
Dunne didn't get past one round with Martinez and Rendall schooled him twice. He has the EBU and commonwealth belts which are better than the belt Dunne has.
Look at the ease Rendall outboxed a tough African for the Commonwealth, then look at the struggle Dunne had against Cordoba.
Even Steve Molitor won't go near Munroe, he was eligible to fight for the Commonwealth belt but wouldn't go near 2Tone cos he knows he'd get beat.

[slapbangwhallop]

BTW I reckon Munroe whips Dunne who is a glorified club fighter who got lucky facing a crap champion.

Hahaha, good one. There is a far outside chance that he could beat Dunne but he would never "whip" him. Simple club fighters don't have good amateur careers and and receive EBU and World titles.

And to call Cordoba a crap champion is farcical. The only loss on his record before Dunne was a split decision against the talented Poonsawat. He also had a win against Caballero. He nearly had Dunne out of there on the night too and was ahead on the cards but Dunne showed good heart. It was a great win for Dunne against a good fighter.

If you consider Dunne to be a club fighter, then I'd hate to think what Munroe is with the calibre of fighter he's defended his EBU title against and struggled with.

Kiko exposed Dunne. Munroe would do the same, why do you think Dunne won't fight him?

Dunne wanted Munroe when Murnoe was European champion. Maloney said the money wasnt right.

Munroe wanted Dunne when Dunne was World champion. Peters said the money wasnt right.

Lets get this straight - neither are running from each other - its all about cash.

[brian13]

BTW I reckon Munroe whips Dunne who is a glorified club fighter who got lucky facing a crap champion.

Munroe must be a glorified street fighter then. Dunne beats Munroe UD. Munroe will also lose to Maludrottu.

[Steve89]

BTW I reckon Munroe whips Dunne who is a glorified club fighter who got lucky facing a crap champion.

Munroe must be a glorified street fighter then. Dunne beats Munroe UD. Munroe will also lose to Maludrottu.

Maludrottu aint nothing special, easy fight for Munroe imo. Don't know why your all so impressed with Dunne. He has one good fight meanwhile Rendall is winning fight after fight easily, picking up every belt out there.

[Des1]

Kiko had power and Dunne an unsteady chin. He caught him before Dunne could make himself wary of his punch. Doesn't make Dunne a bad fighter to be taken out in such a way, just that he got caught. All that it proved is that if you connect with power, you can floor Dunne hard.

Munroe doesn't have Kiko's power, so he'd likely have to go a full 12 with Dunne to win, and over 12 rounds, I don't see him out boxing Dunne.

I see Dunne being stopped eventually but not against Munroe.

Plus, Dunne was MORE than willing to fight Munroe and Brian Peters offered him a career best purse to come to Dublin but himself and Frank Maloney showed no interest until Dunne beat Cordoba, and now Dunne is looking at bigger fights.

Nah man Rendall is too fast, too slick, too big, and way too skilled for Dunne.
Dunne didn't get past one round with Martinez and Rendall schooled him twice. He has the EBU and commonwealth belts which are better than the belt Dunne has.
Look at the ease Rendall outboxed a tough African for the Commonwealth, then look at the struggle Dunne had against Cordoba.
Even Steve Molitor won't go near Munroe, he was eligible to fight for the Commonwealth belt but wouldn't go near 2Tone cos he knows he'd get beat.

Munroe and Dunne are both good fighters, certainly not glorified club fighters as has been suggested. To say though that Munroe would beat Molitor and that Molitor is basically 'scared' to fight Munroe you must be on some kind of substance! . Its obvious that your a big fan of Munroe or maybe even know him personally but please dont make deluded, nonsense statements ! You cant compare Munroe outboxing a 'tough African' with ease as a valid argument that he would be to good for Molitor! Sure the African was tough but not really high championship class, after all a man on the street can be 'tough'. Molitor is without doubt world class and although Munroe is a quality fighter I do not think for one min that Molitor would be running scared of Munroe, if a fighter or their team (as in most cases) turn down a fight, a championship fight it can very well mean that they either have better options to fight for a higher title or they want to push their career forward and not go over old ground, Molitor was commonwealth champ years ago and went on to win a world title. Sometimes its called wise management, not scared that you would get beat. Just look at Molitors record and then look at Munroe's....And tell me then Molitor would be scared because 'he knows he'd get beat'! that is laughable!

[Beeston]

Even Munroe's trainer said during the fight that the African was nothing more than a tough guy - but he was better than the joke opponents that Cleverly has had for his Commonwealth title recently.

I think Munroe would be too big and untimately too good for Maludrutto..... Napa gave him a run for his money, and he is much smaller and less powerful than the binman.

Rendall will fall short at the top level, but that isn't anything to be ashamed of, he may get two cracks and then go back to EBU level. For me though he needs to move now, 29 years old and has cleared out the division at this level.

[leeharding]

BTW I reckon Munroe whips Dunne who is a glorified club fighter who got lucky facing a crap champion.[/quote]


u people do my head in u sit on these chat forums right people of like that hes a world champ for fornicate sake what more can be said u lot need 2 get a fornicating grip

[whiskey]

I think that they are all decent enough.

I dont salivate at the thought of their fights though, nor do i watch them over and over.

Just reasonable entertainment - all on a similar level on their day.

[Steve89]

BTW I reckon Munroe whips Dunne who is a glorified club fighter who got lucky facing a crap champion.

u people do my head in u sit on these chat forums right people of like that hes a world champ for eff sake what more can be said u lot need 2 get a effing grip[/quote]

How can he be a proper world champ when Kiko starched him in 1? Until he fights Kiko again, he is hasn't proved nothing.
Munroe schooled Kiko twice!
Dunne is a paper champion, Munroe is a two time champ (real titles) and he aint getting Dunne in 1 by anyone!
Enough said.

[Cannibal]

Kiko needs to get a decent win or two under his belt before he's even considered for a rematch. Munroe himself would be above Kiko in the pecking order for a crack at Dunne by virtue that he beat Kiko.

The fact that Dunne got sparked by Kiko is just that he got hit clean early and was on queer street afterwards. You can't say he's a bad fighter because of one nightmare round. If Kiko had systematically beaten him up over a number of rounds before taking him out then it might be cause to slight Dunne. But as it was, he got hit while implementing plan A and didn't recover in time to go to his plan B.

[bigdaddy]

Munroe is a class act

[Autobarn]

Nishioka is a very good fighter. He fought a future Hall of Famer Veeraphol Sahaprom 4 times, and gave him hard fights in at least 2 of them. He is rugged, has a big workrate, and freakishly tough. He's beaten 2 decent Mexicans and now has the WBC title. He's too strong for Rendall Munroe. These Japanese fighters can really walk through the pain, they never stop punching, they never stop coming at you. Munroe's earned something, you'd think, but once the opponent is stronger than him he might not do so well.

[lirva]

The fact that Dunne got sparked by Kiko is just that he got hit clean early and was on queer street afterwards. You can't say he's a bad fighter because of one nightmare round. If Kiko had systematically beaten him up over a number of rounds before taking him out then it might be cause to slight Dunne. But as it was, he got hit while implementing plan A and didn't recover in time to go to his plan B.

Kiko proved he is MILES better than Dunne and it only took him 80 seconds. Dunne is lucky that boxing is the way it is, in that he can pick up a title from an organization and call himself a world champion. Do you think he would last longer than 60 seconds against Juanma Lopez? I'd give him 40 seconds, including the count.

[banjo]

The fact that Dunne got sparked by Kiko is just that he got hit clean early and was on queer street afterwards. You can't say he's a bad fighter because of one nightmare round. If Kiko had systematically beaten him up over a number of rounds before taking him out then it might be cause to slight Dunne. But as it was, he got hit while implementing plan A and didn't recover in time to go to his plan B.

Kiko proved he is MILES better than Dunne and it only took him 80 seconds. Dunne is lucky that boxing is the way it is, in that he can pick up a title from an organization and call himself a world champion. Do you think he would last longer than 60 seconds against Juanma Lopez? I'd give him 40 seconds, including the count.

And carrying him out of the ring as well 8)

[knowitall]

The fact that Dunne got sparked by Kiko is just that he got hit clean early and was on queer street afterwards. You can't say he's a bad fighter because of one nightmare round. If Kiko had systematically beaten him up over a number of rounds before taking him out then it might be cause to slight Dunne. But as it was, he got hit while implementing plan A and didn't recover in time to go to his plan B.

Kiko proved he is MILES better than Dunne and it only took him 80 seconds. Dunne is lucky that boxing is the way it is, in that he can pick up a title from an organization and call himself a world champion. Do you think he would last longer than 60 seconds against Juanma Lopez? I'd give him 40 seconds, including the count.

Kiko has proved that :
a.)he can bang.
b.)that's about it.

Munroe has proved that :
a.) he can stay out of trouble (having the benefit of hindsight seeing what Martinez was capable of), and grind out a two laboured points wins over a very limited opponent.
b.) he can then go on to beat even more limited boxers (Bouita, Matiroysan, Trotta, and Nettey), looking average doing so.
c.) he is good boxer but can't punch for sh*t, is a slow starter and is pretty easy to hit even by the like of Trotta and Matrioysan.


Dunne has proved that :
a.) he can hang with the best technically.
b.) he can be put down but has very good recovery abilities.
c.) he has decent power.
d.) he is gritty and has a lot of heart
e.) the Kiko Matinez incident was a blip in his career.

Munroe's fans have proved that :
a.) they see the biggest achievement of Munroe's career as his defeat over Kiko Martinez, they see this as such an achievement because Martinez beat Dunne, but they still manitain that Dunne is a clubfighter, paper champion, glass chinned, not that good in the first place, lucky to have beat Cordoba, who himself was not that good....
but still the fact that Munroe beat the man who beat this "lucky, glass jawed, clubfighter" Dunne, is a big achievement?!!! (Am I the only one who dosen't understand this logic?)
b.) they are overrating Munroe bigtime based on this achievement.
c.) they do not understand that there is a big difference between a farmer from Ghana such as Nettey, and a proven world class boxer like Cordoba.
d.) they basically haven't got a clue about boxing.

[Badass]

Munroe has to get past Maludrottu first Steve and there is no way he whips Dunne, I mean have a bit of common sense lad!


On the subject of Rendall Munroe V Toshiaki Nisioka - the japanese fighter is by far a higher class of fighter than anyone Munroe has ever faced. I have questions about the binmans chin against world class punches, and Nisioka is a banger who will not be fazed by Munroe's punches, so I predict that Munroe will get Knockiaki the f*ck Outioka.

[Counter-puncher]

haha some good points there knowitall

its another one of those toxic forum situations isn't it, where everyone seems to have one horse in the race and if they have one horse, they have to disparage the other one.

shame really Munroe is a decent seeming fella who has done well with the talent he has, to get this far but will only get further if very well managed/matched

Dunne IMO is more skillful and the Cordoba win IMO is better than any single one of Rendall's to date.

personally when we are viewing them in 10 years time, my guess is that the Cordoba win and anything else he can add to that will turn out better than any single wins of Munroe's. i am not sure Rendall would beat Cordoba, and if he beats a Cordoba-like fighter i don't know if he'd manage to beat the next taxi off the rank.

anyways lads give them both a bit of credit eh?

[Badass]

The fact that Dunne got sparked by Kiko is just that he got hit clean early and was on queer street afterwards. You can't say he's a bad fighter because of one nightmare round. If Kiko had systematically beaten him up over a number of rounds before taking him out then it might be cause to slight Dunne. But as it was, he got hit while implementing plan A and didn't recover in time to go to his plan B.

Kiko proved he is MILES better than Dunne and it only took him 80 seconds. Dunne is lucky that boxing is the way it is, in that he can pick up a title from an organization and call himself a world champion. Do you think he would last longer than 60 seconds against Juanma Lopez? I'd give him 40 seconds, including the count.

And carrying him out of the ring as well 8)

Most super bantams wouldn't last long against Juanama. You're not giving Dunne the credit he deserves here lads.

Do you honestly think Munroe would last against the big punchers of the devision? The same Rendall Munroe who was bothered by light punching euro bums?

Whatever joker said Martinez is miles better than Dunne needs to get off this forum and never comment on boxing again!

[banjo]

Oh I give credit to Dunne for beating Cordoba alright, I didn't think he could do it and he proved me wrong so well done to him but people are getting so carried away, they seem to forget that Caballero is the real WBA champion it's just that he had the nerve to unify with an undefeated IBF champion in Molitor so they gave him this "super champion" nonsense which left Cordoba upgraded from a "interim" champion to a "world" champion.

Oh and for the record Dunne beats Munroe comfortably possibly by stoppage.

[Autobarn]

Munroe has to get past Maludrottu first Steve and there is no way he whips Dunne, I mean have a bit of common sense lad!


On the subject of Rendall Munroe V Toshiaki Nisioka - the japanese fighter is by far a higher class of fighter than anyone Munroe has ever faced. I have questions about the binmans chin against world class punches, and Nisioka is a banger who will not be fazed by Munroe's punches, so I predict that Munroe will get Knockiaki the f*ck Outioka.

Nishioka is a hard bastard as well. He got up off the floor to beat Jhonny Gonzalez in Mexico - one of the KO's of the year. And he shipped inhuman punishment v Veeraphol in their 4th fight. He got a beating the entire 2nd half of the bout and it's hard to believe the ref let him get so badly battered...Years later and he's still here, and holding a belt.

Unless he's been through too many hard fights, I think he'd beat Rendall. But Rendall is big and strong and could put a good fight up.