Khan Vs Kotelnik who ya got?

What's the result?

Poll ended at 18 Jul 2009, 10:27

Khan KO
27
21%
Khan Pts
49
39%
Kotelnik KO
44
35%
Kotelnik Pts
6
5%
 
Total votes: 126

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Khan Vs Kotelnik who ya got?

Post by Chambers2 »

From what I've been reading it seems that the forum is (understandably) split on how this one is gonna go. Will Khans speed and new approach to the game under Freddie Roach be too much for Kotelnik or does Kotelnik know too much for Amir allowing him to get Amirs chin?

I can quite feasibly make a case for all 4 options in the poll, but if pushed I'd be backing an Amir points win
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Re: Khan Vs Kotelnik who ya got?

Post by Tommy Gunn13 »

Khan easier than most people think,wide points decision without his Chin being tested...
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Post by Adamj1987 »

all being fair kotelnik wins but if for some reason he gets in any trouble it will be stopped even if he isnt knocked down
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Post by hitman09 »

Kotelnik by KO inside the first 6 rounds.
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Post by hitman_hatton1 »

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Khan easier than most people think,wide points decision without his Chin being tested...
yeah khan on pts.

not sure about the really wide bit. :D

but khan on pts.
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Re: Khan Vs Kotelnik who ya got?

Post by madmick »

Kotelnik will have to weather the storm early on...just hope the ref dont stop the fight premutulay...kotelink will take khan into deep waters then drown him.
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Re: Khan Vs Kotelnik who ya got?

Post by lurkyshaka »

Khan, clear an easy.

Far too fast for an opponent who is solid but has no special effects. Kotelnik will be left chasing shadows all night.
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Re: Khan Vs Kotelnik who ya got?

Post by brian13 »

Kotelnik late stoppage
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Post by CheckHook »

The main problem for Khan is Kotelniks durability/defense. Khan is unlikley to stop Kotelnik early which means a Khan win will involve a long night or more likley a points win. The longer the fight goes the more chance Kotelnik has of catching Khan and when he does he'll hurt him, Kotelnik doesn't have a punch, but he doesn't need one to stop Khan, he just has to land a few decent shots. I'm not a fan of Kotelnik to be honest, but I rekon he'll probably hang in there until Khan slows down and then Khan will get caught and stopped.... mid-late KO for Kotelnik.
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Post by Mick the Mechanic »

brian13 wrote:Kotelnik late stoppage
me too
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Re: Khan Vs Kotelnik who ya got?

Post by sweetscience »

Khan is first or last 3
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Post by lirva »

We have to factor in the referee stopping the fight prematurely if Khan wobbles Kotelnik (which is feasible if he can land solidly) and crowds him. If we get Dave Parris here, Kotelnik backers have to be careful.
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Re: Khan Vs Kotelnik who ya got?

Post by charlieb »

Khan, by stoppage.

Edit: It'll probably be premature, but I think it'll come in a fashion that would lead you to believe it was in the mail either way.
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Post by Rob Magic »

Khan wins through an absurd ref stoppage. We all know how these things work nowadays. :TU:
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Post by Bard of Boxrec »

Its a WBA fight.. who can tell me the ramifications re this and Frankie's personal selection of refs? I seem to remember they had a continental ref for Rees' defence against Kotelnik.
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Post by unorthodox »

kotelnik beginning of round 8
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Post by alexpaterson »

I see it 2 ways either Kotelnik will outbox and outbox a green Khan and lose widely on points or Khan will overwealm him with his quick flurries and KO him
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Re: Khan Vs Kotelnik who ya got?

Post by madmick »

unorthodox wrote:kotelnik beginning of round 8
you know some think we dont.
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Post by whicker »

Who is the ref? When will we know? It does make a difference, I'd say.

For that matter, who are the judges?
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Re: Khan Vs Kotelnik who ya got?

Post by crusader »

Khan is exceptionally talented, but we all know whats up with his chin. That doesn't bode well against a durable guy who can take and block punches and will still be there over the course of the fight. The is a very good chance Khan will eventually get caught by a clean punch from the accurate counter puncher Kotelnik, and the question is how will he deal with it. I think he will get hurt or dropped at some point but will eventually prevail on points in a very tough contest. If I was a Khan fan I would be nervous right now.
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Post by Dioufy »

Just going to edge for Khan KO5. I think it will be an early.very contentious stoppage too.
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Re: Khan Vs Kotelnik who ya got?

Post by Gazmac81 »

we need a clear decision in this fight

theres 2 much unanswered Questions after Khans fights , what ifs ?
ie - Fagans injured ankle , Limond long count , barrera cut

i think khan will need to work hard for his win here and win on points

ill back him all the way providing hes in competitve matches after this

if he vacates or avoids then im not supporting him
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Post by Datsue »

Khan on points. Kotelnik is flattered by Maidana's recent big win -- but Ortiz is shite frankly, a flashy but even shakier version of Khan with less natural fighting instincts -- & the Kotelnik-Maidana fight was average (not really world class) no matter how many people wish to spin it as some kind of Titanic Battle For The Ages. Maidana is heavy-handed, strong as an ox but slow. Kotelnik could see his punches coming a mile off & adjust. Khan has better punching technique than Carlos & hits snappily, which will give Andreas more problems than the bigger looping shots from the Argie.

Barring of course, some catastrophic failure of Amir's chin (which might happen, of course. But I don't think it will. This time): Amir on points, with Riddick Blowe either once again curiously quiet or raving about some imagined infraction that "gifts Khan the win".
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Re: Khan Vs Kotelnik who ya got?

Post by Chambers2 »

Unsurprisingly the currect scene isn't as confident of an Amir win as the British scene is

http://forum.boxrec.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 7#p1897947
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Re: Khan Vs Kotelnik who ya got?

Post by chesh »

Kotelnik between rounds 8 and 10.
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