Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
That was something special - the bob and weave in the last seconds of the 8th round was sensational.
Khan - KKKKKHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!
Khan - KKKKKHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!
Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
Still going to get let down by his chin, sorry but he will.
Impressed though, chin held better than I thought it would, good fitness, good balance, good pace, good activity level.
BUT the chin will let him down again
Impressed though, chin held better than I thought it would, good fitness, good balance, good pace, good activity level.
BUT the chin will let him down again
Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
He beat someone who I would say is World class, so I'm calling Khan World class. I do think the next puncher Khan faces will knock him out, though. Someone like, say, Maidana.
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alexpaterson
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Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
What a performance total class oozed confidence used his fast hands and feet and boxed almost faultless class performace from a class fighter congratulations to him he deserves it and im happey he proved me wrong
Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
No matter what, u cannot put muscle on a chin.
Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
Glass chin will never have muscle on it.
Class operator other than that
Class operator other than that
Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
Excellent performance, can't deny that this fight answered a lot of questions, Khan has improved immensely.
Beating a tough and respected champ like Kotelnik in such a fashion is the way to earn respect, not the target practice against Fagan or the circus against Barrera.
I just hope that now he'll keep it up, take genuine competitive fights and showcase what he can do.
If he vacates the title and moves down to face Erik Morales, well that would put a huge stain on tonights excellent work in my opinion.
Beating a tough and respected champ like Kotelnik in such a fashion is the way to earn respect, not the target practice against Fagan or the circus against Barrera.
I just hope that now he'll keep it up, take genuine competitive fights and showcase what he can do.
If he vacates the title and moves down to face Erik Morales, well that would put a huge stain on tonights excellent work in my opinion.
Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
I must have been watching something else, very dissapointed ![[icon_e_sad.gif] :verysad:](./images/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif)
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Quixall
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Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
Fair play to Khan......
Styles make fights and Kotelnik didn't have the tools to hurt Khan. Kotelnik is a good and durable fighter, but he isn't anywhere near an elite fighter and does'nt have any punch power. Any fighter with big punching power or any of the elite fighter's at lightweight or light-welter would beat Khan. The other attribute that is missing from Khan's repetoire is punching power and you need that at the very highest level. Credit to Khan for the victory, it did'nt suprises me one bit, because i knew that Khan's hand speed and movement would create problems for Kotelnik and that's what happenned. Khan has world class speed and movement and a decent range of shots, but he lacks an overall style and so falls some way short of being termed world class. As i said earlier, any good fighter with some movement, speed and punching power will beat Khan and any of the elites at lightweight and light-welter will beat him. As for the likes of Mayweather, Guzman, Marquez, Pacquaio etc, forget it, he will never be in that class.
Styles make fights and Kotelnik didn't have the tools to hurt Khan. Kotelnik is a good and durable fighter, but he isn't anywhere near an elite fighter and does'nt have any punch power. Any fighter with big punching power or any of the elite fighter's at lightweight or light-welter would beat Khan. The other attribute that is missing from Khan's repetoire is punching power and you need that at the very highest level. Credit to Khan for the victory, it did'nt suprises me one bit, because i knew that Khan's hand speed and movement would create problems for Kotelnik and that's what happenned. Khan has world class speed and movement and a decent range of shots, but he lacks an overall style and so falls some way short of being termed world class. As i said earlier, any good fighter with some movement, speed and punching power will beat Khan and any of the elites at lightweight and light-welter will beat him. As for the likes of Mayweather, Guzman, Marquez, Pacquaio etc, forget it, he will never be in that class.
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alexpaterson
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Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
No but you can put muscles on his legs so he absorbs a punch bettertobyh5 wrote:No matter what, u cannot put muscle on a chin.
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hitman_hatton1
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Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
guys like kotelnik are bottom half of the top 10 level.
some on here don't even think that is world class (DG hint hint
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hatton still gobbles him up.![[icon_twisted.gif] :twisted:](./images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif)
some on here don't even think that is world class (DG hint hint
hatton still gobbles him up.
Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
Well Done Mr.khan. Nice to see a young man achieve his dream of a world title after a devastating loss not so long ago. Nice to have another British Champ too. I would put him on the bottom-most rung of world class level. There are still things there he needs to improve if he wants to move up a little in class. I thought he would have a bit more power actually because he looks like he has but Kotelnik pretty much took everything.. Fought a smart fight and against his nature from what we have seen of him prior to this fight. If nothing else the boy got heart & dedication so respect for that.
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hitman_hatton1
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Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
difficult to judge his power against a cagey fighter like kotelnik.MecnunK wrote:Well Done Mr.khan. Nice to see a young man achieve his dream of a world title after a devastating loss not so long ago. Nice to have another British Champ too. I would put him on the bottom-most rung of world class level. There are still things there he needs to improve if he wants to move up a little in class. I thought he would have a bit more power actually because he looks like he has but Kotelnik pretty much took everything.. Fought a smart fight and against his nature from what we have seen of him prior to this fight. If nothing else the boy got heart & dedication so respect for that.
never really rated his power though.
he won't take out many at top 10 level.
bring on maidana.
Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
Dead Righthitman_hatton1 wrote:guys like kotelnik are bottom half of the top 10 level.
some on here don't even think that is world class (DG hint hint).
hatton still gobbles him up.
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WayoftheCass
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Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
I always thought he had world class ability and if well matched he would win a major belt. The lightweight division was too hot for him and being able to carry the speed up to light welter allowed him to bedazzle a really solid world champion in Kotelnik. The fact is though that if Maidana had got the nod over Kotelnik then Amir wouldn't be a world champion and instead would still be fighting against fringe world level fighters at lightweight. The way that Warren braced himself every time Kotelnik pitched his shoulder forward and went for the home run with that overhand right just confirms what we already know......Amir's chin is still and will always be his achilles heel.
Outside of matching him some very beatable challengers in voluntary defences I still can't see Khan getting past the many heavy handed contenders that await him. Not wanting to piss on his parade but the Prescott defeat was too hairy to be just a freak occurrence.
Outside of matching him some very beatable challengers in voluntary defences I still can't see Khan getting past the many heavy handed contenders that await him. Not wanting to piss on his parade but the Prescott defeat was too hairy to be just a freak occurrence.
Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
I don't think he's proved it yet. One more fight against a ranked contender who can PUNCH hard and i'll be convinced. even if he loses, i'll give him credit for it.
Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
For me he's electric, he moves around the ring quickly to get away from the opponent & his speed is on the attack is astonishing - but you always get the feeling that he's wide open to a smasher to the chin that will have him in freefall.fluxstuff wrote:I don't think he's proved it yet. One more fight against a ranked contender who can PUNCH hard and i'll be convinced. even if he loses, i'll give him credit for it.
He aint no battler though.
Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
Kotelnik is world class and Khan took him to school. Khan is a world class fighter.
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Coffee Aroma
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Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
ME............But never mind there are plenty of halfwitted and delusional "Boxing Fans" to keep the Khan farcetrain firmly adhered to the company track
I feel genuine sports fans and followers of real boxing are in for a long.......long.........long expensive talent free ride![[icon_witsend.gif] :witzend:](./images/smilies/icon_witsend.gif)
I feel genuine sports fans and followers of real boxing are in for a long.......long.........long expensive talent free ride
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Quixall
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Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
Kotelnik is a good fighter, but he isn't world class and before anyone say's, no, i don't think being a world champion in this era means that you are automatically deemed to be a world class fighter.crusader wrote:Kotelnik is world class and Khan took him to school. Khan is a world class fighter.
Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
Khan showed a good chin tonight.
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Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
Definatley showed he is world class for me tonight. He did a good job on a guy who has been operating at and around world level for a while now. Kotelnik isn't one of the better belt holders out there, but this was a legitimate fight. I didn't think Khan could put in the performance he needed for 12 rounds to get the win but he showed he is developing and moving in the right direction. I wouldn't be throwing him in with Hatton anytime soon though.
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Quixall
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Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
Taking punches froma guy who can't hit as hard as a decent lightweight.......Dioufy wrote:Khan showed a good chin tonight.
Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
At least there's improvement there now, and potential.Quixall wrote:Taking punches froma guy who can't hit as hard as a decent lightweight.......Dioufy wrote:Khan showed a good chin tonight.
Re: Anyone think Khan still isnt world class?
I thought Khan's speed would be too much tbh. Fair play to Khan, but there is a reason why Kotelnik was selected
Still wouldn't beat Romanov, for me though.
Still wouldn't beat Romanov, for me though.