Maccarinelli - "Im not retiring"

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This won't end well at all. He is shot to bits. I'd give Billion Dollar Ellis a decent shout if they met again.

Bet he moves up to HW.
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I was thinking the opposite when i heard he had lost. I thought maybe he would go down to Light Heavyweight and say that he's never fought in his natural weight class, owes it to himself and boxing etc etc
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deadpan wrote:This won't end well at all. He is shot to bits. I'd give Billion Dollar Ellis a decent shout if they met again.

Bet he moves up to HW.
Completely disagree.

Enzo will bash up the likes of Matt Ellis, Garry Delaney and all those other WBUms all year long. He'll look devastating at that level.

Do you know what Haye, Afolabi and Lebedev all had in common? They were ambitious, confident and had ability. Coming across opponents like that was a rarity for Maccarinelli during his 'title reign'. That's why he came unstuck. Enzo isn't physically shot. He may be mentally ruined (due to the defeats), but the real reason he's suffering right now is simply because he's met three fighters that were better than him.
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he should retire for the simple reason that he will never again command the big-ish purses that he became used to, thus his motivation to train for fights where he is earning comparative peanuts will always be questionable.

by the way i will say it again Rob Norton would give him terrible terrible problems, if he does want to test the british level waters.
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if he is fighting on why not get the british title outright and EBU title as well as getting belts he will find out if level now
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prizefighter is his only option.....it worked well for oakey !!
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He should go back and fight Lee Swaby over 8 rounds deep on an undercard somewhere.

Then perhaps target a British title shot.
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All this talk of him being "shot" is garbage. He was just shite from the start.
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Shite is way too strong lirva. Beating Braithwaite was a definite feather in his cap.
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deadpan wrote:Shite is way too strong lirva. Beating Braithwaite was a definite feather in his cap.
Braithwaite was very over the hill though.

Enzo was never really better than british level. He fought bums on the world scene. All the guys that beat him would have beaten him at any point in his career.

Funny thing is, he would have been very good if he had a different attitude. But he has the bully mentality, already thinks he's the cheese and not willing to learn the hard way, which would have made him much much better. The tools were there. But he just has that bully mentality. He can't even give credit when he is beaten. The guys that beat him all would have beaten him at ANY point in his career.
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HE LOST T 3 GOOD FIGHTERS AND 1 NOT SO GOOD , HE SHOULD GO BACK TO BRITISH LEVEL , DO WELL THERE THEN UP TO EURO LEVEL AND IF IT WORKS OUT MAYBE ANOTHER SHOT AT A WORLD TITLE , BEARING IN MIND HES STILL QUITE YOUNG FOR A BRITISH CRUISER , (CHECK THE AGES OF OTHER BRIT CRUISERS) HES GOT PLENTY TO OFFER STILL . IM NOT SOMEONE WHO RATED HIM AS A WORLD LEVEL FIGHTER BUT HED BE GOOD AT BRITISH LEVEL , HOW MANY OF SING PRAISES OF SOME FIGHTERS LIKE , MICHAEL JENNINGS FOR EXAMPLE OR YOUNG MUTLEY MAYBE OR ANTHONY SMALL ETC ETC , THERE ALL ONLY EVER GOING TO BE BRITISH LEVEL FIGHTERS YET WE STILL TALK ABOUT THEM USUALLY IN A POSITIVE LIGHT , WHY SHOULDNT ENZO BE LIKE THAT OTHER THAN HE WONT COMMAND BIG PURSES , BUT HES EARNED A GOOD LIVING NOW HE NEEDS TO FIGHT AT A REALISTC LEVEL IMO
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I'm just not sure where Enzo goes from here, given the news he's not retiring.

In all honesty, he, in my eyes was never really World Level. I think he was better than British, perhaps more along the lines of European Level but his WBO reign I feel inflated his thoughts on his ability.

His chin does not seem to be able to cut it and if he can't over power or beat up his man, he's in trouble. I think he'll do alright with British Title fights - but as for being at the top of the Division - no.

All the best to him nonetheless.
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deadpan wrote:This won't end well at all. He is shot to bits. I'd give Billion Dollar Ellis a decent shout if they met again.

Bet he moves up to HW.
Moving up to HW would not be a wise move! Enzo's chin is not top standard to say the least. HW's hit harder & its not as if Enzo is less durable because of weight-making difficulties or anything similar!

He will get KO'd at HW!
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he needs to get some hand picked fighters he can destroy for a while and build his confidence back up before getting in the ring with anyone decent. he should have beaten the guy he was fighting on saturday with ease, he lost because of his own self doubt.
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After three stopage losses like that, will his professional licence not be under review anyway?
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time to go enzo, do something else,invest your money,go to college,look after your family,etc
take a look at history most fighters who continue after 3 stoppage losses from 4, continue just doing that...... losing,you had your time,was a champ and now move over, dont get yourself hurt!
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Maybe there should be a "damaged goods" tournament which only lame, shot and retired fighters can enter? I remember years ago when a shot Razor Ruddock was matched with an equally shot and AIDS-ridden Tommy Morrison. It actually produced one of the most exciting fights of the Nineties. :twisted:
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nobby_nobbins wrote:Maybe there should be a "damaged goods" tournament which only lame, shot and retired fighters can enter? I remember years ago when a shot Razor Ruddock was matched with an equally shot and AIDS-ridden Tommy Morrison. It actually produced one of the most exciting fights of the Nineties. :twisted:

this fight genuinely happened ?
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ratman wrote:
nobby_nobbins wrote:Maybe there should be a "damaged goods" tournament which only lame, shot and retired fighters can enter? I remember years ago when a shot Razor Ruddock was matched with an equally shot and AIDS-ridden Tommy Morrison. It actually produced one of the most exciting fights of the Nineties. :twisted:
this fight genuinely happened ?
http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:9588
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Sounds a bit like bum fights in a ring.

Matthew Ellis got a four round draw in America at the weekend I noticed on the results page.
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Asterix wrote:
ratman wrote:
nobby_nobbins wrote:Maybe there should be a "damaged goods" tournament which only lame, shot and retired fighters can enter? I remember years ago when a shot Razor Ruddock was matched with an equally shot and AIDS-ridden Tommy Morrison. It actually produced one of the most exciting fights of the Nineties. :twisted:
this fight genuinely happened ?
http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:9588
sorry for my ignorance but cant remember this fight at all !!
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Maybe they can dig up the remains of Rich LaMontagne and Orlin Norris for a damaged goods tournament?
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he only ever fought 1 world class fighter (david haye) and we knows what happend there ! i never fought of him as a world champ because hes far from world class
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