Is anyone following this? Juan McPherson and Jason Estrada are proving their reputation as the US' best amateur fighters.
106 (fighters left)
Yan Bartelemy Valera, Cuba
Carlos Jose Tamara, Colombia
US entrant Rayonta Whitfield of Augusta, Georgia beat Giliard Silva, Brazil 39-17, lost to Valera 16-8
112
James Dean, Brazil
Juan Carlos Payano, Dominican Republic
Yuriolkis Gamboa Toledo, Cuba
Raul Benjamin Hirales, Mexico
US entrant Raul Martinez of San Antonio, Texas lost to Payano 18-17
119
Guillermo Rigondeaux, Cuba
Abner Mares, Mexico
US entrant Samson Guillermo of Honolulu, Hawaii lost to Andrew Kooner, Canada 37-13
125
Yosvani Aguilera Zamora, Cuba
Aaron Garcia, Vista, California
Bismarck Adenaguer, Nicaragua
Benoit Gaudet, Canada
US entrant Garcia beat Carlos Velasquez, Puerto Rico 10-10 (59-47)
132
Alexander DeJesus, Puerto Rico
Mario Cesar Kindelan, Cuba
US entrant Karl Dargan of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania never fought
141
Marcos Costa, Brazil
Isidro Mosquea, Dominican Republic
Patric Lopez, Venezuela
Juan de Dios Navarro, Mexico
US entrant Lamont Peterson, Washington DC lost to Lopez 23-8
152
Juan McPherson, Cleveland, Ohio
Lorenzo Aragon Armenteros, Cuba
US entrant McPherson beat Jinner Guerrero, Ecuador RSC-3, beat Alfredo Angulo, Mexico RET-4
165
Jean Pascal, Canada
Pedro Calla, Peru
Alexander Brand Monsalve, Colombia
Yordanis Despaigne, Cuba
US entrant Andre Dirrell of Flint, Michigan lost to Despaigne 21-20
178
Yoan Pablo Hernandez, Cuba
Ramiro Reducindo, Mexico
US entrant Rommell Rene of Orlando, Florida lost to Reducindo 12-5
201
Jason Douglas, Canada
Odlanier Solis Fontes, Cuba
Devin Vargas, Toledo, Ohio
Kertson Manswell, Trinidad & Tobago
US entrant Vargas beat Alexsandro Cardoso RSC-4
Over 201
Michael Lopez Nunez, Cuba
Jason Estrada, Providence, Rhode Island
US entrant Estrada beat Arthur Ontanez, Dominican Republic 20-2, beat Sebastian Ignacio Ceballo, Argentina 26-8
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Pan Am Games Results
Pan Am's
Yes I'm following.. But with one correction to your entry. Karl Dargan lost to Francisco Javier Vargas of Mexico 19-18 in his first bout.
I also agree with boxer0119's best fighters.. It really showed in the 112,119,178.. In the 112 US loss, Ron Siler has beaten Juan Carlos Payano in which Raul lost too. Raul's a good fighter but can't beat a boxer that boxes him. In the 119 loss, Torrence Daniels, (if this is the same Daniels' from Michigan) has beaten Andrew Kooner twice in which Samson lost too. The 178 loss DeAndre Abron has beaten Ramiro Reducindo in which Rommel Rene lost too. I don't even know why the US sent Rene to the Pan Am's.. He just got his tail handed to him at the World Championships He's not experienced enough in international bouts to be competing at these events. To the 106, 165 I don't fault thier performence, They both fought Cubans and Cuba is the POWERHOUSE of ameteur boxing.... Heavyweight is a tossup for best. Vargas got Knocked out buy Charles Ellis in the National Golden Gloves in Vegas this year.. So the best 201 can be anyone... Sence B.J. Flores turned pro.
I also agree with boxer0119's best fighters.. It really showed in the 112,119,178.. In the 112 US loss, Ron Siler has beaten Juan Carlos Payano in which Raul lost too. Raul's a good fighter but can't beat a boxer that boxes him. In the 119 loss, Torrence Daniels, (if this is the same Daniels' from Michigan) has beaten Andrew Kooner twice in which Samson lost too. The 178 loss DeAndre Abron has beaten Ramiro Reducindo in which Rommel Rene lost too. I don't even know why the US sent Rene to the Pan Am's.. He just got his tail handed to him at the World Championships He's not experienced enough in international bouts to be competing at these events. To the 106, 165 I don't fault thier performence, They both fought Cubans and Cuba is the POWERHOUSE of ameteur boxing.... Heavyweight is a tossup for best. Vargas got Knocked out buy Charles Ellis in the National Golden Gloves in Vegas this year.. So the best 201 can be anyone... Sence B.J. Flores turned pro.
Thanks for the correction, KO - they didn't highlight Dargan in the results for some reason, but you are exactly right. How did they come to name this team? I looked at some of the other national championships but it wasn't clear to me if there was a qualification process. Were choices made on a political basis? On the basis of who the best fighters were that were available to make the trip?
Anyway, yesterday's results. Three Americans have made the finals.
112
Final is Juan Carlos Payano vs. Yuriolkis Gamboa
125
Final is Aaron Garcia vs. Likar Ramos Concha of Colombia. Garcia beat Yosvani Aguilera Zamora 16-14.
141
Final is Isidro Mosquea vs. Patric Lopez
165
Final is Juan Ubalde Cabrera of the Dominican Republic vs. Yordanis Despaigne
201
Final is Odlanier Solis Fontes vs. Kertson Manswell. Manswell defeated Devin Vargas 14-12
Anyway, yesterday's results. Three Americans have made the finals.
112
Final is Juan Carlos Payano vs. Yuriolkis Gamboa
125
Final is Aaron Garcia vs. Likar Ramos Concha of Colombia. Garcia beat Yosvani Aguilera Zamora 16-14.
141
Final is Isidro Mosquea vs. Patric Lopez
165
Final is Juan Ubalde Cabrera of the Dominican Republic vs. Yordanis Despaigne
201
Final is Odlanier Solis Fontes vs. Kertson Manswell. Manswell defeated Devin Vargas 14-12
Pan Am's
Estrada wins gold!
McPhearson and Garcia wins silver (Garcia being a shocker)
emile, the team was the 2003 US Challenge winners without Andre Ward at 178 who passed up this tournament because of injury.
I think that there's to many bad decisions in amateur boxing. It shows when it really counts. On the international scene we never have all of our best guys like cuba does. If the US establish the TOP guys in each weight class and train them all together more often I think when we send ALL of our BEST in EVERY weight class we would win alot more golds on the international level.. I hope the are fair in the Olympic Trials and not do the buddy buddy wins thing and send our best the the games..
I won't to say congrads to Jason for the gold.. But I'll tell him when I see him again...
McPhearson and Garcia wins silver (Garcia being a shocker)
emile, the team was the 2003 US Challenge winners without Andre Ward at 178 who passed up this tournament because of injury.
I think that there's to many bad decisions in amateur boxing. It shows when it really counts. On the international scene we never have all of our best guys like cuba does. If the US establish the TOP guys in each weight class and train them all together more often I think when we send ALL of our BEST in EVERY weight class we would win alot more golds on the international level.. I hope the are fair in the Olympic Trials and not do the buddy buddy wins thing and send our best the the games..
I won't to say congrads to Jason for the gold.. But I'll tell him when I see him again...
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...Jason Estrada outpointed Michael Lopez Nunez, 14-6.
...Nunez, the big Cuban, weighs 275#. I'm just wondering if you have his other measurements? Sure would like to know reach, height, & Amateur Record - and I've checked Boxrec.com - they only list records/stats for PRO boxers.
...Winning a Silver in the PanAms Superheavies (and losing by decision to a guy with exceptional hand speed), says he's got something! Should he turn pro and come to the U.S. for future fights? Will we get to see him on Fox or ESPN2?
...Jason Estrada outpointed Michael Lopez Nunez, 14-6.
...Nunez, the big Cuban, weighs 275#. I'm just wondering if you have his other measurements? Sure would like to know reach, height, & Amateur Record - and I've checked Boxrec.com - they only list records/stats for PRO boxers.
...Winning a Silver in the PanAms Superheavies (and losing by decision to a guy with exceptional hand speed), says he's got something! Should he turn pro and come to the U.S. for future fights? Will we get to see him on Fox or ESPN2?