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Whats going on with Hopkins?
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 09:32
by Old bones Ian
His next fight is against average Enrique Ornelas, so why is he fighting at this level now?
All Hopkins recent fights have been at elite level, and i thought he was retiring if he couldn't continue getting these fights, so is Bernard risking his legacy against a low level opponent?
Re: Whats going on with Hopkins?
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 09:33
by stujones
I think Hopkins vs Jones is a done deal.... both have December tune ups. Although Jones' is alot harder!
Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 09:36
by the patriot
Just noticed that Hopkins is down to face Enrique Ornelas on the 2nd December (a Wednesday!!
)
Any of you who frequent Current Scene heard anything about this (I try my best to stay off that particular forum
)
Bit of a strange date aswell
:?? :?? :??
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 09:40
by banjo
Same night as RJJ v Green in Australia.
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 09:52
by the patriot
banjo wrote:Same night as RJJ v Green in Australia.
So it is !!
The plot thickens !!
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 10:01
by banjo
the patriot wrote:banjo wrote:Same night as RJJ v Green in Australia.
So it is !!
The plot thickens !!
I'm guessing Hopkins people organised it to take place on the same day as RJJ v Green for whatever reason, I know the Aussies fight on odd days, just a quick look at Greens record shows that most of his recent fights have taken place on either a Sunday or a Wednesday.
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 10:02
by Autobarn
45 yo with boring style who has to fight smaller men or nothing:
any wonder it's come to this?
i don't see this as a masterplan. it's obviously to get active as he doesn't fight often, and hype up a desperate HBO rematch with jones jr.
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 10:02
by Datsue
Isn't Enrique Ornelas the brother of Librado Andrade?
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 10:13
by Shirow
You do know that he's agreed to fight RJJ? It's just a build up for that plus the fact that HBO promised him a January fight which they then took away so i guess he wants a rust shaker.
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 10:29
by alexpaterson
It's a tune up for the Jones-Hopkins 2 match
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 10:32
by Adamj1987
alexpaterson wrote:It's a tune up for the Jones-Hopkins 2 match
indeed i did say this on another thread about the same fight
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 10:40
by stujones
Autobarn wrote:45 yo with boring style who has to fight smaller men or nothing:
any wonder it's come to this?
i don't see this as a masterplan. it's obviously to get active as he doesn't fight often, and hype up a desperate HBO rematch with jones jr.
Tarver? smaller?
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 10:43
by Poncey
alexpaterson wrote:It's a tune up for the Jones-Hopkins 2 match
x2
HBO were hoping for January PPV, now looking at March.
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 10:46
by Adamj1987
stujones wrote:Autobarn wrote:45 yo with boring style who has to fight smaller men or nothing:
any wonder it's come to this?
i don't see this as a masterplan. it's obviously to get active as he doesn't fight often, and hype up a desperate HBO rematch with jones jr.
Tarver? smaller?
tarver was years ago.
Calzaghe, winky, de la hoya, taylor (with him bein SM and hopkins LHW) trinidad etc
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 12:20
by stujones
Taylor was not smaller than Hopkins (your analogy means that Duran was bigger than Hagler... Hagler never went above Middle, Duran fought at Super Middle). Joe was for the most part of his career BIGGER and Tarver was after alot of the fights that you mention.
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 14:51
by observer1
Adamj1987 wrote:stujones wrote:Autobarn wrote:45 yo with boring style who has to fight smaller men or nothing:
any wonder it's come to this?
i don't see this as a masterplan. it's obviously to get active as he doesn't fight often, and hype up a desperate HBO rematch with jones jr.
Tarver? smaller?
tarver was years ago.
Calzaghe, winky, de la hoya, taylor (with him bein SM and hopkins LHW) trinidad etc
?
The dude is 40+. Cut him some slack.
Trinidad was MW Champion, expecyted to KO Hopkins.
DLH bout was at 158lbs. Hopkins came in at 156lbs.
Taylor? Their both at same division?
Winky, fair enough.
Calzaghe was SMW... incase you didn't notice Hopkins spent much of his career at MW. If you're going to call Hopkins LH, then why say Trinidad and DLH were Blown-up?
Stop being a Chav mate
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 15:27
by hitman_hatton1
it's annoying HBO are interested in this.
this jones-hopkins rematch is an insult to all the people that wanted to see it 7 yrs ago.
a rematch 17 yrs after the 1st fight.
just retire now fella's. :>
Re: Bernard Hopkins v Enrique Ornelas ?????
Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 15:28
by hitman_hatton1
observer1 wrote:?
The dude is 40+. Cut him some slack.
Trinidad was MW Champion, expecyted to KO Hopkins.
DLH bout was at 158lbs. Hopkins came in at 156lbs.
Taylor? Their both at same division?
Winky, fair enough.
Calzaghe was SMW... incase you didn't notice Hopkins spent much of his career at MW. If you're going to call Hopkins LH, then why say Trinidad and DLH were Blown-up?
Stop being a Chav mate
i think what he's getting at is the fact hopkins boiled down for years to make middleweight.
he was a big middle alright.
hopkins is a great fighter.
jones is greater though. ;;-)