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British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 31 Oct 2009, 20:00
by Horse
1. (1.) Ricky Hatton
2. (2.) Carl Froch
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Amir Khan
5. (5.) Clinton Woods
6. (6.) Junior Witter
7. (8.) Bernard Dunne (Irish)
8. (9.) Rendall Munroe
9. (29.) Ryan Rhodes
10. (10.) Matthew Macklin
11. (11.) Nicky Cook
12. (18.) John Murray
13. (19.) Nathan Cleverly
14. (7.) Jamie Moore
15. (12.) Kell Brook
16. (15.) Ian Napa
17. (13.) Alex Arthur
18. (14.) Kevin Mitchell
19. (23.) Jason Booth
20. (16.) Martin Lindsay (Irish)
21. (17.) Darren Barker
22. (20.) Anthony Small
23. (21.) Ajose Olusegan
24. (22.) Enzo Maccarinelli
25. (24.) John Simpson
26. (25.) Sam Sexton
27. (27.) John Duddy (Irish)
28. (26.) Martin Rogan (Irish)
29. (28.) Gavin Rees
30. (30.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 31 Oct 2009, 20:00
by Horse
Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 04:43
by Finch
Did you deliberately wait until the the bell struck midnight to post this? Erm, that is a tad sad.
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 05:03
by DG.
Horse wrote:Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.
Froch should be number 1! Even if be struggled with dirrell. Pascal Taylor and dirrell tops Hatton! Getting knocked out in 2 of your last 4 drops Hatton!

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 05:33
by DG.
sg1985 wrote:DG. wrote:Horse wrote:Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.
Froch should be number 1! Even if be struggled with dirrell. Pascal Taylor and dirrell tops Hatton! Getting knocked out in 2 of your last 3 drops Hatton!

Hatton didn't get knocked out in two of his last three.
Edited. Meant 2 of last 4!

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 06:25
by alexpaterson
I'd have Jason Booth higher than Alex Arthur and Froch at number 1 but good list all the same

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 07:26
by mickey1975
alexpaterson wrote:I'd have Jason Booth higher than Alex Arthur and Froch at number 1 but good list all the same

How can you put Froch at No1?He's not even the best super middleweight in Europe.When his acheivements match Ricky's,maybe so...
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 07:38
by whiskey
mickey1975 wrote:alexpaterson wrote:I'd have Jason Booth higher than Alex Arthur and Froch at number 1 but good list all the same

How can you put Froch at No1?He's not even the best super middleweight in Europe.When his acheivements match Ricky's,maybe so...
It's not an all time list mickey.
Its the current list.
Otherwise Lennox would be no1.
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 09:54
by Horse
Finch wrote:Did you deliberately wait until the the bell struck midnight to post this? Erm, that is a tad sad.
I didn't want people to have to wait for it. Some people may have been staying up to get a look.
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 12:43
by slapbangwhallop
boring - McCloskey too low!!
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 12:56
by CEO_Hoodlem
No way should Rendall Munroe be so high!! Yeah he is Europian champion but who has he actually beat, No one of note.
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 13:59
by Finch
Horse wrote:Finch wrote:Did you deliberately wait until the the bell struck midnight to post this? Erm, that is a tad sad.
I didn't want people to have to wait for it. Some people may have been staying up to get a look.
Haha - fair play
Then they are a tad sadder than you.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 17:33
by iwz678
I think Froch should be top, the likes of Murray and Cleverly should be higher than Nicky Cook who has done nothing since losing his belt to Martinez and I also think Booth should be ahead of Napa and that Martin Lindsay is ranked a little bit too high.
spot on otherwise

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 17:35
by Horse
DG. wrote:Froch should be number 1! Even if be struggled with dirrell. Pascal Taylor and dirrell tops Hatton! Getting knocked out in 2 of your last 4 drops Hatton!

Dirrell was unproven at World class level, so I didn't think that a close decision win over him was enough for Froch to claim the number 1 spot.
If Froch beats Kessler or Abraham then he has a good chance of overtaking Hatton.
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 17:37
by TheGoods
Murray outside the top 10 is just crazy talk! Especially when you have a retired fighter at five.
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 18:00
by Horse
alexpaterson wrote:I'd have Jason Booth higher than Alex Arthur and Froch at number 1 but good list all the same

Hunter looked awful, so I didn't feel that I could raise Booth any further up the list based on beating him. Booth would have had to climb another two places to go above Arthur and I didn't think he deserved to climb up that many places.
I might have put Froch at the top if he had beaten Dirrell convincingly, but he didn't.
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 19:21
by Horse
sligobhoy67 wrote:boring - McCloskey too low!!
McCloskey has not fought since March. I cannot move him up until he wins a fight.
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 01 Nov 2009, 20:29
by Flav1
Regarding Hatton/Froch -
Does a Pacman loss and Malinaggi, Lazcano victories, beat Froch's wins over Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell?
I'd have sided with Froch and given him No.1
And because Froch won't put on and lose 18st before Kessler.
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 07:27
by DG.
Horse wrote:DG. wrote:Froch should be number 1! Even if be struggled with dirrell. Pascal Taylor and dirrell tops Hatton! Getting knocked out in 2 of your last 4 drops Hatton!

Dirrell was unproven at World class level, so I didn't think that a close decision win over him was enough for Froch to claim the number 1 spot.
If Froch beats Kessler or Abraham then he has a good chance of overtaking Hatton.
Sorry, but beating PASCAL and Jermaine Taylor and Dirrell BACK TO BACK is better than getting stretched by PBF - dubious stoppage against Maliganaggi and points win against Lazcano then stretched against Pacman.
Its a current list after all.
What does it say about British Boxing if getting knocked out by a p4p smaller man makes you number 1?
Pascal is a World Champion up a weight, remember!!!
Sorry, but Hatton is STILL living off Kostya!
Froch Number 1!!!

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 07:31
by DG.
Gwannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn,Froch!!!
Number 1 British P4P!
Also, Kessler is good -as is Abrahms, but apart from Jermain Taylor, who have either of them really beat?
Mundine?
Froch Number1!

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 11:38
by Horse
CEO_Hoodlem wrote:No way should Rendall Munroe be so high!! Yeah he is Europian champion but who has he actually beat, No one of note.
He has beaten Kiko Martinez twice, who is a noteworthy opponent. The other three opponents he has fought as European champion may not be that great, but are they decent.
Which fighters that are below Munroe have a better record over the last two years?
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 11:38
by Horse
Finch wrote:Haha - fair play
Then they are a tad sadder than you.


Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 12:16
by Carbo
Horse wrote:1. (1.) Ricky Hatton
2. (2.) Carl Froch
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Amir Khan
5. (5.) Clinton Woods
6. (6.) Junior Witter
7. (8.) Bernard Dunne (Irish)
8. (9.) Rendall Munroe
9. (29.) Ryan Rhodes
10. (10.) Matthew Macklin
11. (11.) Nicky Cook
12. (18.) John Murray
13. (19.) Nathan Cleverly
14. (7.) Jamie Moore
15. (12.) Kell Brook
16. (15.) Ian Napa
17. (13.) Alex Arthur
18. (14.) Kevin Mitchell
19. (23.) Jason Booth
20. (16.) Martin Lindsay (Irish)
21. (17.) Darren Barker
22. (20.) Anthony Small
23. (21.) Ajose Olusegan
24. (22.) Enzo Maccarinelli
25. (24.) John Simpson
26. (25.) Sam Sexton
27. (27.) John Duddy (Irish)
28. (26.) Martin Rogan (Irish)
29. (28.) Gavin Rees
30. (30.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)
I think it's an absolute disgrace that Martin Rogan is above Gavin Rees. I'm simply fuming, and I'm going to contact Rees immediately to let him know what you've done. You should be ashamed. You've let your family down with that one Horse. Honestly, do you deliberately try to offend people with these things?
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 12:19
by Carbo
DG. wrote:
Sorry, but beating PASCAL and Jermaine Taylor and Dirrell BACK TO BACK is better than getting stretched by PBF - dubious stoppage against Maliganaggi and points win against Lazcano then stretched against Pacman.
A
dubious stoppage against Malignaggi?? Are you having a laugh?? His corner threw in the towel after ten one sided rounds. Dubious stoppage, indeed.
Classic.
Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2009
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 12:22
by gemmell
napa above booth mitchell and about 20 others? napa is 19-7
