Who should step up

[colin russell]

Ive had a gut full of these aussie boxers that dont set themself goals. all they do is get there doe and go home. iv been a boxing supporter for 45 yrs and iv had enough, even kick boxers step up. We the boxing fan should let them know set goal step up get to the top or we wont follow them. The amatures you must step up or you dont fight mmm simple. I could name and shame 10 aussie boxers that havent steped up. Then again I could name 10 aussie boxers that allways take up the chance to fight up. please your thoughts. Name the ones that step up name the ones that dont.

[adnileb]

Yeah agree to a certain extent Colin. While its not my place to name whos performing and whos not, I do agree however that those that take up the sport need to seriously have a look at why they do it in the first place. There are varying reasons for each individual, but I find as a manager, trainer, consultant, supporter, fan, that we do not have enough boxers that really know what they want. And unless you have clear specific goals and a desire, passion and commitment to achieve and follow it through, they will never reach their full potential. They have the 'go with the flow' mentality and see what happens. Those who usually take that path will find themselves on the road to no-where.

Apart from legitimate reasoning, fear as you know, plays a major factor why boxers wont step up...

[colin russell]

The person taking up the sport of boxing will train hard eat the right things get mentaly ready then put him or herself in the hands of the trainer , manager or the consultant. Lets face it most boxers dont know how far they can go in this sport its up to the trainers, managers or the consulant to guide them .Ive never found someone willing to get in the ring that didnot want to get to the top. Dont you think it the support from the manager, trainer ect that will get them through. Listen to the top boxers in the world they allways give praise to there trainers for the goals that were set for them in a clear specific way. all boxers take up the sport to WIN some know that a loss is not allways a bad thing why because there trainer said so. The question is who should step up if you think its not your place to name thoughs you think should step up then go back to training, manageing or being a consultant to thoughs you never gave a specific goal too.

[AntonS]

Sport of Boxing???
When did this come about in OZ?? It's been circus/entertainment for the past 10 years

[Rogue]

Sport of Boxing???
When did this come about in OZ?? It's been circus/entertainment for the past 10 years

8)
Admittedly this one ain't circus.... Jarrod (currently rated OZ #9 middy) deserves a shot @ Regional title in his 3rd pro fight

[adnileb]

I'll try and answer your question as best as I can because I find your response somewhat diffcult to understand...

Lets face it most boxers dont know how far they can go in this sport its up to the trainers, managers or the consulant to guide them .Ive never found someone willing to get in the ring that didnot want to get to the top.

Boxers will ultimately need to take responsibility and control of what they really want to get out of this sport with the assistance of a supportive team. And without a team that can't work together, you will have certain challenges, obstacles you need to overcome in order to get to the top. ie. trust, loyalty, understanding, etc...but using the word 'top' is quite generalised. For some boxers (amateur /pro) they might just want to be national champ in their division, or make commonwealth or Olympics, or have so many pro bouts. Then you have those who want to become the best in the world for their division. Even to the point of becoming a legend. Every boxer has different aspirations and goals. Some don't have any at all. They put all their faith and trust into their manager/trainer to decide what direction to head. I don't know about you, but I prefer to control where I ultimately want to be with expert advice and support around me. Boxers will need to flexible in their approach as there is a lot of uncertainty in this sport. If that means changing trainers, managers, promoters to get closer to 'the top' because something didn't work out or feel right, then do it. The most common reasons why teams become dysfunctional are:

1.Lack of communication
2.trust and loyalty
3.Misunderstanding
4.lack of clear concise goals where everyone in the team agrees and understands
5.Greed

I'm sure there are plenty more reasons, but from my experiences dealing and talking with boxers, trainers & managers on a regular basis, these reasons seem to be the stand outs.

Dont you think it the support from the manager, trainer ect that will get them through. Listen to the top boxers in the world they allways give praise to there trainers for the goals that were set for them in a clear specific way.

You can have the greatest trainers and managers in the world, but if you have a boxer who's not self-disciplined or 100% committed, then they will never reach their full potential. It goes both ways. The key is to have a strong team which is mutually beneficial for all involved. Sure the boxers interest should be a priority but everyone who performs and contributes needs to rewarded. Whether that be in financial or social terms. Unfortunately that does not always happen. Due mainly to the reasons listed above. Another thing is to never stop learning. Whether your starting out or on top of the world. Ignorance and arrogance can be the death of progression.

All boxers take up the sport to WIN some know that a loss is not allways a bad thing why because there trainer said so. The question is who should step up if you think its not your place to name thoughs you think should step up then go back to training, manageing or being a consultant to thoughs you never gave a specific goal too.

A loss is not a bad thing at all. Especially in your early days of boxing as an amateur or even a pro. What might be considered a loss is actually an experienced gain. Its what the boxer and trainer do after that which is more important. Who should step up? Well the trainer is the expert advisor to the boxer who needs to learn from his loss/mistake in order to make sure it doesn't happen again. The boxer, in short, needs to apply the necessary action from his trainer in order to avenge or rectify his loss or weaknesses. If a boxer gets too many losses early on in his career, questions need to be raised which is why its important for a team to be candour or open for change. Of course there are many other factors that will need to be addressed. Whether that be psychologically, fitness, diet etc...

[Rogue]

Sport of Boxing???
When did this come about in OZ?? It's been circus/entertainment for the past 10 years

8)
Admittedly this one ain't circus.... Jarrod (currently rated OZ #9 middy) deserves a shot @ Regional title in his 3rd pro fight

Oh? didn't know of that one and not sure how the JPG file was posted.... Interesting. Further this seems to be more than a regional title???

[Brute]

I think most fighters would be prepared to fight overseas if offered the fights, but that is up to promoters.