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Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 16:29
by Goz
Did anyone see/notice the footage between Rounds 6 and 7?

Haye goes in to see Khan, Amir clearly asks how his right hand his, Haye talks for a bit then takes off the protector/cast thing to show him and Roach jumps up to point out there is a camera on them and steps in front of it.

Haye is calm as anything but by the time Roach has moved the cast is back on.

Not doubting the veracity of David's injury, actually find it amusing that Freddie Roach clearly does as he was so keen to inform Haye that a camera was right on them! :lol:

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 16:40
by dondada
sg1985 wrote:I saw that footage, how do you come to the conclusion that's what happened though? I got the impression Roach got up to have a look at his hand, I'm sure Haye would be more than aware there would be a camera in the dressing room for a fight like that.
Roach was obviously telling him there was a camera in the room. But Haye was quite clearly showing Khan where his hand was f*cked.

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 16:56
by MightyWarrior
Interesting, I saw him in there but missed that bit - maybe he believes a fighter should keep injuries, as a sign of weakness, away from the prying eyes. Maybe the hand is really badly f*cked?
It should be after hitting something the size of Valuev's head.

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 16:57
by Goz
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
sg1985 wrote:I saw that footage, how do you come to the conclusion that's what happened though? I got the impression Roach got up to have a look at his hand, I'm sure Haye would be more than aware there would be a camera in the dressing room for a fight like that.
Roach was obviously telling him there was a camera in the room. But Haye was quite clearly showing Khan where his hand was f*cked.
Yes absolutely, that's how I saw it. But as I said Roach's thought process intrigues me - "I better let David know there's a camera on him in case the hand injury is a load of old bollox" - which says to me this kind of stuff does most definitely go on.

Sorry just being an old gossip.... :OhYes:

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 17:11
by Spiker
I noticed that clip as well.
Busted showing amir his pinky finger was the only thing he really hurt.

Oh shit is that a camera :oo

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 17:28
by physio
Haye removed what is called a back slab From his hand. Something that is reguarly used for stable fractures of the 5th metacarpal. I have no doubt the injury is real.

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 17:32
by ginger_sack
i saw hayes hand at the airport after the fight its a genuine injury and i dont understand why people doubt that.

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 17:35
by Asterix
The injury is obviously real. Haye was on GMTV or 'This Morning' and showed a severely swollen hand.

I did think the situation was funny as well. Roach clearly thought Haye wouldn't want the cameras seeing it.

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 17:35
by craigjenkins05
Goz wrote:Did anyone see/notice the footage between Rounds 6 and 7?

Haye goes in to see Khan, Amir clearly asks how his right hand his, Haye talks for a bit then takes off the protector/cast thing to show him and Roach jumps up to point out there is a camera on them and steps in front of it.

Haye is calm as anything but by the time Roach has moved the cast is back on.

Not doubting the veracity of David's injury, actually find it amusing that Freddie Roach clearly does as he was so keen to inform Haye that a camera was right on them! :lol:
i do think the injury is genuine but i thought exactly the same u can see roach jump up to let him know people can see

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 18:59
by ALI
Watching this unfold live i assumed Roach had just gotten up to take a look.

I dont doubt David's injury at all. Curious as to why Roach thought he might want to hide it from the camera though. It does seem sinister somehow. Two thoughts spring to mind, both already pointed out above, 1) that Roach, in the split second that he had to evaluate the situation, thought it might be a fake injury or 2) that he should not give away his weaknesses on camera. Or perhaps there's a third option, that Roach thought that if the injury was not visible on camera, it might be discredited by the media and not in Haye's favour to show it off? He's been around a lot and seen it all, perhaps his natural instinct was just to protect him from what he thought was a situation that could potentially have played out bad for Haye?

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 07 Dec 2009, 19:58
by rhino222
physio wrote:Haye removed what is called a back slab From his hand. Something that is reguarly used for stable fractures of the 5th metacarpal. I have no doubt the injury is real.
back slabs can be used for anything..legs..arms etc, its just a non limb encircling plaster in the back of the affected limb..

for hayes injury......movement should be encouraged, as this increases the blood supply and therefore promotes healing.

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 17:03
by physio
rhino222 wrote:
physio wrote:Haye removed what is called a back slab From his hand. Something that is reguarly used for stable fractures of the 5th metacarpal. I have no doubt the injury is real.
back slabs can be used for anything..legs..arms etc, its just a non limb encircling plaster in the back of the affected limb..

for hayes injury......movement should be encouraged, as this increases the blood supply and therefore promotes healing.

Your right a back slab can be used for most things and Haye should be encouraged on gentle movement, depending on callus formation at 4 weeks post injury.

My point was both the cast and injury are genuin, something an earler post doubted.

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 08 Dec 2009, 17:09
by dondada
It's genuine. I saw it. Unless it's a huge conspiracy like when they lied to everyone, including me, about him killing himself to make weight before Enzo. :lol:

Nah, it's genuine.

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 12:50
by skillz_that_killz
all this crap about haye's hand injury being fake is aload of bollocks, he was on sky sports news a day or 2 after his fight with valuev and his hand was swollen up like a balloon, lets not forget haye won the fight with valuev so why would he fake injury to make excuses??

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 12:52
by Counter-puncher
skillz_that_killz wrote:all this crap about haye's hand injury being fake is aload of bollocks, he was on sky sports news a day or 2 after his fight with valuev and his hand was swollen up like a balloon, lets not forget haye won the fight with valuev so why would he fake injury to make excuses??
haye's hand injury, to put it one way, is even more of a nailed-on cert than Salita was to beat Khan. wow, that really is a sure thing :TU:

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 12:55
by skillz_that_killz
Counter-puncher wrote:
skillz_that_killz wrote:all this crap about haye's hand injury being fake is aload of bollocks, he was on sky sports news a day or 2 after his fight with valuev and his hand was swollen up like a balloon, lets not forget haye won the fight with valuev so why would he fake injury to make excuses??
haye's hand injury, to put it one way, is even more of a nailed-on cert than Salita was to beat Khan. wow, that really is a sure thing :TU:

bite me

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 13:12
by Asterix
skillz_that_killz wrote:bite me
You're a kinky little thing, aren't you? :o

Haye's hand injury, and has been asserted a few times in this topic, was genuine. I think we pretty much all agree now.

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 13:13
by skillz_that_killz
Asterix wrote:
skillz_that_killz wrote:bite me
You're a kinky little thing, aren't you? :o

Haye's hand injury, and has been asserted a few times in this topic, was genuine. I think we pretty much all agree now.
who the fornicate asked you?

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 13:13
by Asterix
skillz_that_killz wrote:who the eff asked you?
:lol:

No-one did. Just contributing.

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 13:16
by skillz_that_killz
Asterix wrote:
skillz_that_killz wrote:who the eff asked you?
:lol:

No-one did. Just contributing.
no your following me around like a little school girl with a crush

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 13:18
by Asterix
skillz_that_killz wrote:no your following me around like a little school girl with a crush
I'm flattered, but I don't swing that way, thanks. :TU:

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 13:19
by skillz_that_killz
Asterix wrote:
skillz_that_killz wrote:no your following me around like a little school girl with a crush
I'm flattered, but I don't swing that way, thanks. :TU:
how about i swing my fist your way

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 13:21
by Asterix
skillz_that_killz wrote:how about i swing my fist your way
That sexual innuendo is taking it waaaay too far, imo.

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 13:22
by skillz_that_killz
Asterix wrote:
skillz_that_killz wrote:how about i swing my fist your way
That sexual innuendo is taking it waaaay too far, imo.
now your annoying me carry on like that and your gonna meet my mate stanley

Re: Haye in Khan's dressing room during Mitchell-Prescott

Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 13:23
by Asterix
skillz_that_killz wrote:now your annoying me carry on like that and your gonna meet my mate stanley
I've already told you I'm not that way inclined.