Anybody know what's going on with him? I would have expected to see him on Saturday's card.
Remember how poor he was against Monaghan last time out, maybe he's really gone back to the drawing board and is taking a break?
Gary Lockett
I fear that it's only a matter of time before Lockett gets beaten again, he showed good resolve in getting revenge against Tsarenko but he just has not carried the power up from Light Middleweight. He is a big Middleweight but his Boxing displays are just not impressing at the moment, he was very lucky to win against Monaghan and needs an injection of life into his game before he can progress.
Said it before and I'll say it again.
LOckett is travelling all the way to Liverpool/Manchester (can't remember which) to get trained/conditioned (badly IMO) from his home in Cwmbran, South Wales (approx 5-8 miles from CwmCarn & Joe Calzaghe, Bradley Pryce, Gavin Rees's Gym).
Judging by the advice (or lack of it) he recieved during the first Tsarenko bout, he is clearly not recieving anything inspirational in terms of words/advice. They just sent him out, round after round, without apparent tactical changes, to try and bomb out a guy he couldn't even put a dent in. I was at Ringside (Was it Calzaghe-Brewer?, or Calzaghe-Veit?) for it and it was WITHOUT QUESTION the worst beating I have ever seen a fighter take - NEVER MIND A SUPPOSED HOT PROSPECT!!!!!!!
Judging by his performances he is clearly not making any real technical advances.
So will someone tell me why he travels RIGHT PAST THE DOOR of one of the best gyms in Britain (statistically - not just my WELSH opinion!!!!) to one which (based on the results I have seen - ie his Pro career to date) has effectively stalled his career.
LOckett is travelling all the way to Liverpool/Manchester (can't remember which) to get trained/conditioned (badly IMO) from his home in Cwmbran, South Wales (approx 5-8 miles from CwmCarn & Joe Calzaghe, Bradley Pryce, Gavin Rees's Gym).
Judging by the advice (or lack of it) he recieved during the first Tsarenko bout, he is clearly not recieving anything inspirational in terms of words/advice. They just sent him out, round after round, without apparent tactical changes, to try and bomb out a guy he couldn't even put a dent in. I was at Ringside (Was it Calzaghe-Brewer?, or Calzaghe-Veit?) for it and it was WITHOUT QUESTION the worst beating I have ever seen a fighter take - NEVER MIND A SUPPOSED HOT PROSPECT!!!!!!!
Judging by his performances he is clearly not making any real technical advances.
So will someone tell me why he travels RIGHT PAST THE DOOR of one of the best gyms in Britain (statistically - not just my WELSH opinion!!!!) to one which (based on the results I have seen - ie his Pro career to date) has effectively stalled his career.
Absolutely. Lockett's performances since the Tsarenko defeat have made him look utterly clueless, he doesn't look like he knows what he wants to be doing in there, has no real style of which to speak and as a consequence is a defeat waiting to happen. He was fortunate to get the nod over Monaghan.
My eneducated idea would be to focus on what he was good at which is flattening people. Forget trying to become the consumate boxer, you can't do it.
I would even go as far as to suggest giving someone like Nigel Benn a call and seeking his advice, how to make the transistion from wild puncher to a more controlled but still exceptionally agressive style.
My eneducated idea would be to focus on what he was good at which is flattening people. Forget trying to become the consumate boxer, you can't do it.
I would even go as far as to suggest giving someone like Nigel Benn a call and seeking his advice, how to make the transistion from wild puncher to a more controlled but still exceptionally agressive style.
Seems you have hit the nail on the head my informed Welsh fellow poster, i agree with every commentLugh wrote:Said it before and I'll say it again.
LOckett is travelling all the way to Liverpool/Manchester (can't remember which) to get trained/conditioned (badly IMO) from his home in Cwmbran, South Wales (approx 5-8 miles from CwmCarn & Joe Calzaghe, Bradley Pryce, Gavin Rees's Gym).
Judging by the advice (or lack of it) he recieved during the first Tsarenko bout, he is clearly not recieving anything inspirational in terms of words/advice. They just sent him out, round after round, without apparent tactical changes, to try and bomb out a guy he couldn't even put a dent in. I was at Ringside (Was it Calzaghe-Brewer?, or Calzaghe-Veit?) for it and it was WITHOUT QUESTION the worst beating I have ever seen a fighter take - NEVER MIND A SUPPOSED HOT PROSPECT!!!!!!!
Judging by his performances he is clearly not making any real technical advances.
So will someone tell me why he travels RIGHT PAST THE DOOR of one of the best gyms in Britain (statistically - not just my WELSH opinion!!!!) to one which (based on the results I have seen - ie his Pro career to date) has effectively stalled his career.
Lugh.
I can see what your saying, but your post is sounds somewhat confused (don't mean any offense by that).
When you said Manchester or Liverpool you mean Manchester AND Liverpool. Lockett did switch trainers after the Tsarenko bout. He was with some fellow from Liverpool (I think) in this bout, can't remember his name. But he's with Bryan Hughes now.
Personally, I don't think its Bryan Hughes's fault at all, the lad had plenty of visible defensive mistakes before the Tsarenko bout. Barry McGuigan was saying this, then the first warning signal came against Glenn Kelly.
Its probably an innate flaw that no coach will get out of him at this stage of his career. The only coach who could have rectified it was his amateur coach, who has Lockett probably (I don't know for sure) such a great KO record might not have noticed it.
So, while I'm upset cause I thought he would go places (reminded me so much of Don Curry - one of my favourite fighters) the truth is that he's simply not good enough. I don't think its a psychological thing or a physical (as in overtrained, weight drained issues) thing - he's simply not good enough.
For me, the two fights I have seen most of the action since the first Tsarenko bout I think he lost, they are the Tsarenko rematch and the Monaghan fight.
I wish Bryan and Gary all the best, and I hope they prove me wrong. Bryan Hughes (despite some of his high profile splits with fighters) is a top coach and I hope the between the two of them they can start performing again.
Lugh, its the fighter that makes the gym - he's the important tool. Otherwise all of Enzo's fighters would be as good as Joe, what I'm trying to say is I doubt whether any coach could get rid of the innate flaws of Lockett.
Manny Steward (generally regarded as the greatest coach of the all) couldn't get rid of Hamed's weaknesses. Even Buddy McGirt couldn't prevent the 'old' Aturo Gatti resurfacing against Ward in the 1st and 3rd battles.
I can see what your saying, but your post is sounds somewhat confused (don't mean any offense by that).
When you said Manchester or Liverpool you mean Manchester AND Liverpool. Lockett did switch trainers after the Tsarenko bout. He was with some fellow from Liverpool (I think) in this bout, can't remember his name. But he's with Bryan Hughes now.
Personally, I don't think its Bryan Hughes's fault at all, the lad had plenty of visible defensive mistakes before the Tsarenko bout. Barry McGuigan was saying this, then the first warning signal came against Glenn Kelly.
Its probably an innate flaw that no coach will get out of him at this stage of his career. The only coach who could have rectified it was his amateur coach, who has Lockett probably (I don't know for sure) such a great KO record might not have noticed it.
So, while I'm upset cause I thought he would go places (reminded me so much of Don Curry - one of my favourite fighters) the truth is that he's simply not good enough. I don't think its a psychological thing or a physical (as in overtrained, weight drained issues) thing - he's simply not good enough.
For me, the two fights I have seen most of the action since the first Tsarenko bout I think he lost, they are the Tsarenko rematch and the Monaghan fight.
I wish Bryan and Gary all the best, and I hope they prove me wrong. Bryan Hughes (despite some of his high profile splits with fighters) is a top coach and I hope the between the two of them they can start performing again.
Lugh, its the fighter that makes the gym - he's the important tool. Otherwise all of Enzo's fighters would be as good as Joe, what I'm trying to say is I doubt whether any coach could get rid of the innate flaws of Lockett.
Manny Steward (generally regarded as the greatest coach of the all) couldn't get rid of Hamed's weaknesses. Even Buddy McGirt couldn't prevent the 'old' Aturo Gatti resurfacing against Ward in the 1st and 3rd battles.
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Guest
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Clearly Lockett isnt as good as what we first thought. However, he is capable of far better than what he produced in the Tsarenko and Monaghan fights.
Lockett is in a rut but he can still figure domestically and at minor world title level (WBU etc) if his trainers can sort him out. Lockett's performances are deteriorating under Brian Hughes for whatever reason. If he hasnt already done so he should leave that gym now.
It does seem strange as to why Lockett, a frequent gym switcher of late, hasnt bothered knocking on Enzo Calzaghe's door. But, perhaps it is foolhardy to assume that he wouldnt have already done so???
Lockett's career looks doomed to me unless he can find a trainer to install some confidence in him, reprogramme him to be back to his old agressive self and delivering his shots with venom. He'll never be the master boxer. But he is capable of better.
Lockett is in a rut but he can still figure domestically and at minor world title level (WBU etc) if his trainers can sort him out. Lockett's performances are deteriorating under Brian Hughes for whatever reason. If he hasnt already done so he should leave that gym now.
It does seem strange as to why Lockett, a frequent gym switcher of late, hasnt bothered knocking on Enzo Calzaghe's door. But, perhaps it is foolhardy to assume that he wouldnt have already done so???
Lockett's career looks doomed to me unless he can find a trainer to install some confidence in him, reprogramme him to be back to his old agressive self and delivering his shots with venom. He'll never be the master boxer. But he is capable of better.
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MightyWarrior
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With the right trainer & right confidence building fights Lockett can still come again.
I think he'll still have that natural ko power, might be just finding his feet at the new weight ( like Morales did at feather, on a much higher level )
and his chin and heart are excellent.
His new trainer seems the wrong choice based on his last fight - he should've been furious yet seemed fairly pleased by it all...maybe that was just for the cameras.
Not sure about the Calzaghe situation, but you'd guess there might be some history there - cause it would seem the obvious choice for him.
I like Lockett and really hope he gets it together before it's too late.
I think he'll still have that natural ko power, might be just finding his feet at the new weight ( like Morales did at feather, on a much higher level )
and his chin and heart are excellent.
His new trainer seems the wrong choice based on his last fight - he should've been furious yet seemed fairly pleased by it all...maybe that was just for the cameras.
Not sure about the Calzaghe situation, but you'd guess there might be some history there - cause it would seem the obvious choice for him.
I like Lockett and really hope he gets it together before it's too late.
I think alot of what you say is fair enough, but I can guarantee that Enzo Calzaghe would at least get him sertiously fit - and that would be an improvement. The obvious expertise with which JC has consistently come down to 12 1/2 (whilst remaining ultra fit) would (IMO) be of use to Lockett.stujones wrote:Lugh.
I can see what your saying, but your post is sounds somewhat confused (don't mean any offense by that).
When you said Manchester or Liverpool you mean Manchester AND Liverpool. Lockett did switch trainers after the Tsarenko bout. He was with some fellow from Liverpool (I think) in this bout, can't remember his name. But he's with Bryan Hughes now.
Personally, I don't think its Bryan Hughes's fault at all, the lad had plenty of visible defensive mistakes before the Tsarenko bout. Barry McGuigan was saying this, then the first warning signal came against Glenn Kelly.
Its probably an innate flaw that no coach will get out of him at this stage of his career. The only coach who could have rectified it was his amateur coach, who has Lockett probably (I don't know for sure) such a great KO record might not have noticed it.
So, while I'm upset cause I thought he would go places (reminded me so much of Don Curry - one of my favourite fighters) the truth is that he's simply not good enough. I don't think its a psychological thing or a physical (as in overtrained, weight drained issues) thing - he's simply not good enough.
For me, the two fights I have seen most of the action since the first Tsarenko bout I think he lost, they are the Tsarenko rematch and the Monaghan fight.
I wish Bryan and Gary all the best, and I hope they prove me wrong. Bryan Hughes (despite some of his high profile splits with fighters) is a top coach and I hope the between the two of them they can start performing again.
Lugh, its the fighter that makes the gym - he's the important tool. Otherwise all of Enzo's fighters would be as good as Joe, what I'm trying to say is I doubt whether any coach could get rid of the innate flaws of Lockett.
Manny Steward (generally regarded as the greatest coach of the all) couldn't get rid of Hamed's weaknesses. Even Buddy McGirt couldn't prevent the 'old' Aturo Gatti resurfacing against Ward in the 1st and 3rd battles.
As far as "the fighter's making a gym"? Not entirely sure about that, maybe a PARTICULAR fighter can raise the profile of a gym, but i am certain that I know how Jimmy Tibbs fighters look, Brendan Ingle, Billy Graham, etc - some fighters are better than others at applying the technique but I feel that the trainer is critical.
If it is a confidence thing then I always feel a fighter should start with his fitness - if he KNOWS he is fitter than he has ever been, then that is a strong position to start from - thats why I 'd say Calzaghe or even McDonnell should be considered to help start the reformation.
I would also support the suggestion of Jimmy Tibbs as he has a proven track record of working well with aggressive punchers (and I too feel that is what Lockett SHOULD be) - even though I am on record as questioning his ability of developing young fighters.
Lugh, some good points - certainly concerning confidence and fitness! and yes Enzo Calzaghe, Jim MacDonnel and I would add Dai Gardner certainly make sure their fighters are fit. Having said that concerning Locket I don't think a lack of fitness is his main issue its that poor defence (he was having a hard time with Tszarenko from the off).
However, I still think its the fighter who made the gym - you talk very highly of Enzo and yes he's got in his camp a long standing world champion. However, what would his reputation be if he didn't have Joe in his camp. Same with Gardiner, he's had Robinson (although for his best years he was with Ronnie Rush) and Reegan, but also alot of journeymen
I truly believe that Calzaghe would have had a good career in any camp cause of his natural talent. A good coach should just be able to train a fighter to his natural talents and not a specific style. When you see a fighter who just doesn't have the appropriate skills to adopt 'The Ingle style' then it should be down to Brendan to change it.
One Welsh trainer who doesn't get much credit or attention (actually I haven't seen in TV fights for a while, is he still involved??) is Ronnie Rush, look how different Robinson fighting style was to Barry Jones'. He focused on the strengths of the two guys individually.
Its my opinion that the great fighters will come through regardless of their coach. Why do young boys usually go back to the gym to train, its usually because they've enjoyed the sparring, why have the usually enjoyed the sparring? That's because they were successful at it, who taught them this initial success? Cause they could do it naturally, we all know the story of how Brendan discovered Naz - did he have any training for that? No.
Indeed, Enzo said on BBC Radio Wales that he took Joe age 10 or so to a gym, with a good reputation, cause Enzo thought he couldn't take him far. The gym said, we can't to anything with him he's already to good for us he should stay where he is.
However, I still think its the fighter who made the gym - you talk very highly of Enzo and yes he's got in his camp a long standing world champion. However, what would his reputation be if he didn't have Joe in his camp. Same with Gardiner, he's had Robinson (although for his best years he was with Ronnie Rush) and Reegan, but also alot of journeymen
I truly believe that Calzaghe would have had a good career in any camp cause of his natural talent. A good coach should just be able to train a fighter to his natural talents and not a specific style. When you see a fighter who just doesn't have the appropriate skills to adopt 'The Ingle style' then it should be down to Brendan to change it.
One Welsh trainer who doesn't get much credit or attention (actually I haven't seen in TV fights for a while, is he still involved??) is Ronnie Rush, look how different Robinson fighting style was to Barry Jones'. He focused on the strengths of the two guys individually.
Its my opinion that the great fighters will come through regardless of their coach. Why do young boys usually go back to the gym to train, its usually because they've enjoyed the sparring, why have the usually enjoyed the sparring? That's because they were successful at it, who taught them this initial success? Cause they could do it naturally, we all know the story of how Brendan discovered Naz - did he have any training for that? No.
Indeed, Enzo said on BBC Radio Wales that he took Joe age 10 or so to a gym, with a good reputation, cause Enzo thought he couldn't take him far. The gym said, we can't to anything with him he's already to good for us he should stay where he is.
The more I think about it the more I agree with Goz - Its a bit too late to start tinkering with Lockett's defence - get him in with Jimmy Tibbs to get him punching again.,stujones wrote:Lugh, some good points - certainly concerning confidence and fitness! and yes Enzo Calzaghe, Jim MacDonnel and I would add Dai Gardner certainly make sure their fighters are fit. Having said that concerning Locket I don't think a lack of fitness is his main issue its that poor defence (he was having a hard time with Tszarenko from the off).
However, I still think its the fighter who made the gym - you talk very highly of Enzo and yes he's got in his camp a long standing world champion. However, what would his reputation be if he didn't have Joe in his camp. Same with Gardiner, he's had Robinson (although for his best years he was with Ronnie Rush) and Reegan, but also alot of journeymen
I truly believe that Calzaghe would have had a good career in any camp cause of his natural talent. A good coach should just be able to train a fighter to his natural talents and not a specific style. When you see a fighter who just doesn't have the appropriate skills to adopt 'The Ingle style' then it should be down to Brendan to change it.
One Welsh trainer who doesn't get much credit or attention (actually I haven't seen in TV fights for a while, is he still involved??) is Ronnie Rush, look how different Robinson fighting style was to Barry Jones'. He focused on the strengths of the two guys individually.
Its my opinion that the great fighters will come through regardless of their coach. Why do young boys usually go back to the gym to train, its usually because they've enjoyed the sparring, why have the usually enjoyed the sparring? That's because they were successful at it, who taught them this initial success? Cause they could do it naturally, we all know the story of how Brendan discovered Naz - did he have any training for that? No.
Indeed, Enzo said on BBC Radio Wales that he took Joe age 10 or so to a gym, with a good reputation, cause Enzo thought he couldn't take him far. The gym said, we can't to anything with him he's already to good for us he should stay where he is.