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Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 09:35
by Lightsoot
Tough luck on Joe Gallagher as Macklin jumps ship, again.

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2010/mackli ... ner-switch

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 10:32
by jonp
I know it shouldnt but boxing chat calling Matt a somalian pirate makes me chuckle everytime i think of it.

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 10:58
by 15829
huge loss for joe gallagher, macklin should of stayed with joe he's been producing his best form

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 11:00
by bigdaddy
Another one jumps out of Joes ship :evil: why move 2 good wins...........under Joe.

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 11:05
by Wales
Whilst i agree that constantly changing trainers to move sideways isnt a good move, I think mov9ing to be trained by Roach is a good move. With all due respect to joe galagher can someone tell me how many title fights his fighters have been in?

Roach is currently training the #2 (imo) p4p fighter in the world, and certainarly knows his apples. good luck to matt!

how soon is too soon to be talking about world title shots?

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 11:12
by Asterix
If Roach dedicates enough time to Macklin it would be fantastic. Roach is an awesome trainer. Having someone like Roach or Nazim Richardson think up your game plans is worth its weight in gold.

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 11:22
by whatashambles
How is Roach gonna find the time to train him with Pacquiao-Clottey, Khan-Maidana and the likes of Guillermo Rigondeaux in action over the next month or two?

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 12:02
by TerribleTerry
Macklin is nothing if not fiercely ambitious: the move doesn't surprise me too much in all honesty.

A boxing career is short so I understand why he wants to train with the best and maximise his potentail.

I know a good few people who will be rolling their eyes though...

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 12:07
by TerribleTerry
Ben,

just noticed on the article that you missed off Matt's brief association with Peter Harrison up in Scotland.

Cant remember if they had a fight together but he was up there for a stint early on in his career if I remember rightly..

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 12:22
by Counter-puncher
i'm really not sure about this move as, as others have suggetsed, I am not sure that Mathhew will be able to receive the fullest of Roach's attentions.

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 12:28
by Lenny
Agree with most of the posts, fair play to Macklin for looking to be trained by (arguably) the best, but is Roach spreading himself too thinly for him to get much time? Who is helping Roach out since he got rid of MM?

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 12:55
by alexpaterson
I feel for Gallagher, Macklin has been on brilliant form with him but now he leaves him. Still you cant go wrong by moving to Roach he's the best at the moment by far

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 13:36
by Lightsoot
TerribleTerry wrote:Ben,

just noticed on the article that you missed off Matt's brief association with Peter Harrison up in Scotland.

Cant remember if they had a fight together but he was up there for a stint early on in his career if I remember rightly..
Cheers for that Dan, I can't remember either but I'd completely forgotten that Macklin has been linked with Peter Harrison before. Macklin's trying to rival Alex Arthur for the most number of trainers a fighter can have in their career.

I do rate Macklin but I can't understand his decision to ditch Gallagher given the explosive form he's produced under Gallagher against Elock and Asikanen - on paper, two 50-50 ish fights. He never looked comfortable with Buddy McGuirt or Richie Woodhall, but things seemed to have clicked under Gallagher.

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 13:42
by chris s
Blimey not again, good luck to the lad but he has more trainers than Reebok.

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 13:57
by BARNEYKX
all i can say on this is thats thanks for you

I feel for Gallagher, Macklin has been on brilliant form with him but now he leaves him. Still you cant go wrong by moving to Roach he's the best at the moment by far

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 13:58
by slapbangwhallop
Roach now has Macklin, Dean Byrne and Jamie Kavanagh in the stable - which has all the hallmarks of a cracking Irish card for the west coast

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 14:23
by bennie
Macklin has trained at Freddie Roach's gym before, in the early half of this decade, but Joe Gallagher took him to British and European titles.
Roach took him to a loss to Andrew Facey.

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 14:41
by whatashambles
BARNEYKX wrote:all i can say on this is thats thanks for you

I feel for Gallagher, Macklin has been on brilliant form with him but now he leaves him. Still you cant go wrong by moving to Roach he's the best at the moment by far
He might be the best at the moment, but he has had failures and is it worth leaving Gallagher (who he has just won two titles with) for someone that won't spend all that much time with him?

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 14:52
by TerribleTerry
bennie wrote:Macklin has trained at Freddie Roach's gym before, in the early half of this decade, but Joe Gallagher took him to British and European titles.
Roach took him to a loss to Andrew Facey.
Thats not really accurate though is it Bennie? He may well have trained in the wild card around that period but I am pretty sure he was still trained by the Lynch bros?

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 15:12
by RLewis
TerribleTerry wrote:
bennie wrote:Macklin has trained at Freddie Roach's gym before, in the early half of this decade, but Joe Gallagher took him to British and European titles.
Roach took him to a loss to Andrew Facey.
Thats not really accurate though is it Bennie? He may well have trained in the wild card around that period but I am pretty sure he was still trained by the Lynch bros?
He only trained for about 3 weeks at the Wild Card. I don't think Freddie was ever his trainer.
I think he left the Lynches after the Facey defeat to go to Billy Graham. He had left the Lynches before to go to Peter Harrison, but left after one fight.

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 15:45
by Adamj1987
loyalty is rare in boxing

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 15:57
by tonyevs
How many boxers does Roach have under his wing now then? isn`t Sturm with him also now?

I realise he may give lots of his time to Manny Pacman .. but do the others get so much one2one with him??

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 16:45
by liamlion
I know Roach is pretty much the best in the business, but I cant see this being a good move for Macklin.

Joe Gallagher has done a cracking job with Macklin and Macklin simply isnt going to get the attention and focus he needs from Roach, who is already committed to some big names at the Wild Card.

To be honest im a little disappointed with Mackin on this one. Gallagher and Macklin were good for each other. I wonder who has been whispering in Macklin's ear this time...

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 17:30
by leforge
Seems a strange decision, I though his performances had improved since he joined Joe.

Re: Macklin leaves Gallagher for Freddie Roach

Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 17:42
by sweetscience
didnt i read somewhere on here that Gallagher works fulltime as well as being a trainer ?

if this is true then the roach/gallagher time factor thing cant be that bad