Action-packed fight from the 1910's
Action-packed fight from the 1910's
Gunner Moir fights 'Bombardier' Billy Wells:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTDaIdOfO84
Count the knockdowns.
Here's also Billy Wells's knockout loss to Joe Beckett:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk8OVGw16nU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J20z4g1yn4I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTDaIdOfO84
Count the knockdowns.
Here's also Billy Wells's knockout loss to Joe Beckett:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk8OVGw16nU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J20z4g1yn4I
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dempseyfire
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Re: Action-packed fight from the 1910's
Footage from England during that time-period always seems to be of such higher quality than U.S. footage, I'm assuming b/c it was directly archived in much more proper settings by one of the broadcasting companies that merged into the BBC.
Excellent find! Wells looks to be doing a poor man's Ali routine but had fair countering ability and decent lateral movement. The more compact Moir kept his arms in tight applying pressure to work the inside. Very 'modern' looking fight.
Excellent find! Wells looks to be doing a poor man's Ali routine but had fair countering ability and decent lateral movement. The more compact Moir kept his arms in tight applying pressure to work the inside. Very 'modern' looking fight.
Re: Action-packed fight from the 1910's
Seems like Weills ran badly out of gas at the end.dempseyfire wrote:Footage from England during that time-period always seems to be of such higher quality than U.S. footage, I'm assuming b/c it was directly archived in much more proper settings by one of the broadcasting companies that merged into the BBC.
Excellent find! Wells looks to be doing a poor man's Ali routine but had fair countering ability and decent lateral movement. The more compact Moir kept his arms in tight applying pressure to work the inside. Very 'modern' looking fight.
The uploader also posted many other good fights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfasKAZ1Vso
Tommy Gibbons vs Jack Bloomfield
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOJrAxBElaQ
Beckett vs old Tommy Burns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbFxTSu7zHw
Beckett vs Smith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsMqofvB4zI
Beckett vs Cook
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaMYY0_08K4
Beckett vs Moran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGPmUJ4M6IA
Bloomfield vs Magill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaJtOdzFvIo
Bloomfield vs Goddard
Interesting to see some less heralded fighters of the day.
Re: Action-packed fight from the 1910's
I would not give the BBC Archives too much credit.
As they notorisley junked(wiped)most of their television video archives in the early 1970's because
of the cost of video-tape was expensive and they wanted to re-use the tapes.
(There must have been a Scotsman in charge at the BBC archives to do that.)
As they notorisley junked(wiped)most of their television video archives in the early 1970's because
of the cost of video-tape was expensive and they wanted to re-use the tapes.
(There must have been a Scotsman in charge at the BBC archives to do that.)
Re: Action-packed fight from the 1910's
Is the Georges Carpientier-vrs-Gunboat Smith fight from July 1914 at the Olympia in London available or is it lost?
I read where that fight was filmed.
I read where that fight was filmed.
Re: Action-packed fight from the 1910's
Nice find, been wanting to see film of Wells for a while.
I'd assumed all his KO defeats were due to a bad chin but it looks as though he didn't have much of a defence to speak of and just relied on movement. he also must have gassed in a lot of his bouts, fighting the way he did.
The combination of power and vulnerability must have made him and exciting fighter to watch.
Edit: Just checked his record and realised that fight with Moir was only his 5th fight so maybe he became a little less naive later in his career.
I'd assumed all his KO defeats were due to a bad chin but it looks as though he didn't have much of a defence to speak of and just relied on movement. he also must have gassed in a lot of his bouts, fighting the way he did.
The combination of power and vulnerability must have made him and exciting fighter to watch.
Edit: Just checked his record and realised that fight with Moir was only his 5th fight so maybe he became a little less naive later in his career.
Re: Action-packed fight from the 1910's
What a wretched level of "boxing."TheGreatA wrote:Gunner Moir fights 'Bombardier' Billy Wells:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTDaIdOfO84
Re: Action-packed fight from the 1910's
This shows how remarkable a fighter Gibbons was.
Thank goodness the British filmed this.
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What a gem!
Re: Action-packed fight from the 1910's
Wells scored with a nice counter right hand and it went all downhill from there when it comes to boxing. But it was definitely a fight.granberry wrote:What a wretched level of "boxing."TheGreatA wrote:Gunner Moir fights 'Bombardier' Billy Wells:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTDaIdOfO84
Re: Action-packed fight from the 1910's
TheGreatA wrote:Wells scored with a nice counter right hand and it went all downhill from there when it comes to boxing. But it was definitely a fight.granberry wrote:What a wretched level of "boxing."TheGreatA wrote:Gunner Moir fights 'Bombardier' Billy Wells:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTDaIdOfO84
There are fights in bars all over the world every night of the week.
Re: Action-packed fight from the 1910's
And this was exactly that, a fight, a brawl, a slugging match with little skill involved. I enjoy both aspects of boxing, especially when they're put together. In this case the skill wasn't there but both men gave it their best in a thrilling contest, even if it wasn't the 1911 version of Harold Johnson vs Archie Moore.granberry wrote:TheGreatA wrote:Wells scored with a nice counter right hand and it went all downhill from there when it comes to boxing. But it was definitely a fight.granberry wrote: What a wretched level of "boxing."
There are fights in bars all over the world every night of the week.
Re: Action-packed fight from the 1910's
I have a much longer version of the Gibbons-Bloomfield fight
where Gibbons displays his remakable defensive skills.
where Gibbons displays his remakable defensive skills.
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Here is Billy Wells training.
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=27886
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=27886