Macklin-Mora

[Autobarn]

ESPN say that golden boy are putting together an undercard for marquez-diaz 2 (july 31), featuring macklin v sergio mora (contender winner, briefly held WBC 154 title) as well as jhonny gonzalez v daniel ponce de leon, and robert guerrero v someone.

thoughts? can macklin pressure mora? is mora going to make him look bad?

[stujones]

Excellent fight for Macklin..... great exposure...... one that should be very winnable. Mora is very inactive, doesn't need the money and is a light middle (at his best).

Good boxer, but not a big puncher. If Macklin cannot beat him....no point thinking about being world class

[black panther]

Excellent fight for Macklin..... great exposure...... one that should be very winnable. Mora is very inactive, doesn't need the money and is a light middle (at his best).

Good boxer, but not a big puncher. If Macklin cannot beat him....no point thinking about being world class

I don't know about that mate, it's a tough fight IMO. Sure he can't punch much but he has some class moves, I mean the man did beat Vernon Forrest! In the rematch apparently he got the fight at late notice and had to drop a lot of weight in a short time frame - perhaps that could account for his poor second performance.

[stujones]

I aint disputing that Mora is rubbish. He was a geniune world champion and is not past it. However, he did beat a past it Vernon Forrest (who was exceedingly lucky against Quartey)

Its a good fight, Macklin wins and he proves himself World class..... although I still stand by - if he loses then he can forget world class. I really cannot see Mora beating any of the current Middleweight champions now.

[TerribleTerry]

If Mora fights the right fight he could end up making Macklin look slow of foot and a bit mechanical... Styles make fights, as they say

Still, I will be cheering on the Brummie!

[Cotto16]

This is a great little fight.

You have the slickness and speed of Mora, vs the strength and power of Macklin. Pretty hard one to pick imo.

Who ever wins am sure will get a crack at a world title, so there's a lot to fight for.

[Poncey]

Tought fight.

Mora is effin' huge for 160.

Good exposure for Matt, that.

[hurlock]

head tells me mora to long quick & slick with macklin pushing him close.
maybe macklin can get on top of him??good match up :!:

[BLACKGOLIATH]

ESPN say that golden boy are putting together an undercard for marquez-diaz 2 (july 31), featuring macklin v sergio mora (contender winner, briefly held WBC 154 title) as well as jhonny gonzalez v daniel ponce de leon, and robert guerrero v someone.

thoughts? can macklin pressure mora? is mora going to make him look bad?

The Latin Snake is overrated and I hope Macking beats him by KO.

[Bomber 1]

I'll be honest I don't like this fight.. I have a bad feeling about this I really do!! Mora will make Macklin look bad wether he wins or loses!!! Not a good first fight to have in the US for Mack.. I think someone like Vera would have been much better and much more TV friendly too, He won't get a fight for a world title on the back of a terrible fight with Mora...

[hurlock]

why??? he's a former world champion with one defeat on pts vrs vernon forrest!!

this will prove macklin is top flight :!: regardless.

[BigEars]

I'll be honest I don't like this fight.. I have a bad feeling about this I really do!! Mora will make Macklin look bad wether he wins or loses!!! Not a good first fight to have in the US for Mack.. I think someone like Vera would have been much better and much more TV friendly too, He won't get a fight for a world title on the back of a terrible fight with Mora...

Vera is a much lower level and a win over him(no matter how he does it) won't gain much attention for macklin in the US.
Any sort of win over Mora(even if it is ugly) will be much more beneficial for him, he'd probably earn more, get better exposure, increase his ranking further should he win, gain interest from the American tv companies and have had the experience of being in the ring with a good quality fighter if he were to meet Mora.

Sure blasting out Brian Vera in a few rounds may look better aesthetically, but it'd be lower down the undercard and there's no guarantee he'd make the HBO broadcast(imo it probably wouldn't), and thus it would do little for him.

[banjo]

Would definitely give Matt more exposure if he were to win but Mora is a sneaky bastard and it wouldn't surprise me to see him take a victory over Matt.

[El Raincoat]

I aint disputing that Mora is rubbish. He was a geniune world champion and is not past it. However, he did beat a past it Vernon Forrest (who was exceedingly lucky against Quartey)

Its a good fight, Macklin wins and he proves himself World class..... although I still stand by - if he loses then he can forget world class. I really cannot see Mora beating any of the current Middleweight champions now.

I'd say Mora has a hell of a shout at beating Sebastian Sylvester. I'd not write him out of a Martinez fight either. Martinez wouldn't be any bigger than Mora at 160.

Interesting fight if it comes off, the winner would be right in line for a title shot. Macklin's looking pretty good since he went up to 160.

[Autobarn]

it is a great opportunity on paper, but mora is a horrible spoiler with a terrible rhythm who relies on speed and a herky jerky style of fighting. it perhaps isn't the best fight to showcase macklin. but i hope macklin grinds him down for a late stoppage, and if he does there will be some big openings for him.

[Bomber 1]

I hate Mora's slippery style and Macklin don't like that style to be fair to him, I'd just rather see him face a fighter who's bring the best out of him..Maybe a Duddy?? Andy Lee even?? Mora is gonna run and I just the guy don't frustrate Macklin.. We need as many British world champions as possible.... I'd understand fighting Mora if it were for a world title BUT I just don't understand the meaning of this fight??

[Autobarn]

i wonder if freddie roach has a big say in the opponent, and knows what macklin can do, and expects a big performance.

or is it just a case of throwing a few names in a hat, for a fancy TV date?

macklin apparently didn't look so hot vs rafael sosa pintos, a jerky, negative type.

[Bomber 1]

Roach has every say these days with his fighters!! I am a firm believer that trainers train,promoters promote ,matchmakers match and managers manage!! When people start to mix the jobs and a trainer starts being a matchmaker and a promoter then that's where it all goes wrong for me..

I just hope Macklin comes through as I have said before Britian needs world champions!!

[Captain Hook]

Would definitely give Matt more exposure if he were to win but Mora is a sneaky bastard and it wouldn't surprise me to see him take a victory over Matt.

x2

He could make Macklin look very pedestrian, but if he gets roughed up early MM could get in and put him off his game. Tough one this.

[bennie]

The word is Birmingham’s Matt Macklin takes on former world champion Sergio Mora in Las Vegas on July 31.
Macklin, now trained by Freddie Roach in the States, realised all his potential last year when he captured British and European middleweight titles in stunning, hard-hitting fashion. The charismatic 27-year-old, once hailed as “the future of boxing” by F rank Warren, then took off to America to join Amir Khan in the Roach gym and is said to be close to a world title shot. Certainly a win over Mora, the 29-year-old original winner of the Contender series, would rank as a heady US debut.
Mora picked up a cool million dollars for winning Contender in 2005, which also earned him a Ring magazine cover shot. He easily outscored the flat-nosed Pete Manfredo in the final over seven rounds but looked lucky to take an eight-round decision over the same man when they met again later in 2005 and was then held to a 10-round draw by the unheralded Elvin Ayala, although Ayala went on to perform bravely against the monstrous Arthur Abraham in a crack at the IBF middleweight title a fight later (stopped in 12).
Frankly, Mora looked every bit the contender and was given no chance against Vernon Forrest when he dropped down a weight and challenged for the WBC light-middleweight title in 2008. Forrest himself was totally dismissive of Mora’s chances, almost to the point of lunacy. He made the biggest mistake any boxer can make: he underestimated his opponent. Mora worked hard, outhustling the cocky, lackadaisical, poorly conditioned Forrest to take a majority 12-round decision. The headlines all rang the same: from Contender to champ.
Mora held the title all of three months. Forrest, now with his arse in gear, belted him for 12 rounds in the rematch in September 2008, since when Mora has fought only once, stopping Calvin Green in seven rounds in Las Vegas earlier this year.
A tall, lean, counterpunching type from Los Angeles, Mora has lost only to Forrest in 26 outings but is not a huge puncher and is back at his old middleweight, where he never really convinced. Macklin does hit hard and has settled into the middleweight division nicely, after turning pro at light-middleweight. He will enjoy good support in America, with his Irish ancestry. He might just go one better than Forrest with a stoppage but more likely is a points win for the new boy.

[Autobarn]

didn't macklin say to terry dooley that he doesn't know why writers keep calling him "intelligent" and "charismatic"?

i keep recalling this each time i read bennie's previews...

[HomeOfBritishBoxing]

Roach has every say these days with his fighters!! I am a firm believer that trainers train,promoters promote ,matchmakers match and managers manage!! When people start to mix the jobs and a trainer starts being a matchmaker and a promoter then that's where it all goes wrong for me..

I just hope Macklin comes through as I have said before Britian needs world champions!!

look at pacman freddie picks the right opponents tho!

[hurlock]

I hate Mora's slippery style and Macklin don't like that style to be fair to him, I'd just rather see him face a fighter who's bring the best out of him..Maybe a Duddy?? Andy Lee even?? Mora is gonna run and I just the guy don't frustrate Macklin.. We need as many British world champions as possible.... I'd understand fighting Mora if it were for a world title BUT I just don't understand the meaning of this fight??

it's not for a world title & both aspire to challenge for such honours & have to face off simple.you've mentioned vera??? & have criticised roach for matchmaking etc. but you have to understand this is the american market he's selling himself too here & you dont get props or title shots for beating bums. i really respect macklin for going out there & getting in the mix if he cant beat mora what chance would he have v pavlik,martinez etc??

[Autobarn]

there are definitely better style matchups out there for macklin.

for instance, sebastian sylvester and roman karmazin. but they are fighting each other next month. ditto with duddy and chavez jr.

mora is a "name" if only because he won Contender when it was popular and very briefly held the WBC 154-pound title, winning and losing it to vernon forrest.

but how about this? gennady golovkin was supposed to fight anthony mundine for the vacant WBA "regular" title. still, mundine has not signed, and looks likely to take an easy payday at home (he has a fight scheduled). is macklin rated highly enough for a "world" title fight, vs golovkin?

[damianhucker1]

mora will outpoint macklin comfortably imo .