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They feature in every Rocky training montage so I would say they are an essential part of any gym :DD
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Aren`t they to do with developing the forearms/shoulders?

Gym I used to use had a bike frame with just the rear wheel on the wall .. and you would peddle it with your arms ... that was a much harder work-out.
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we got one put up in our gym about 3 years ago, for the first few weeks some of the younger lads were having a go on it but the novalty soon wore of now nobody goes near it.
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tonyevs wrote:Aren`t they to do with developing the forearms/shoulders?

Gym I used to use had a bike frame with just the rear wheel on the wall .. and you would peddle it with your arms ... that was a much harder work-out.
You mean a speed bag mate. Speed ball is attached to floor and roof by bungie cord.

We have a Schwinn Windjammer in our gym which is along the lines of the bike in your gym.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h ... CDAQ9QEwAw

Harder you go, the harder it gets.
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carlbcfc wrote:
tonyevs wrote:Aren`t they to do with developing the forearms/shoulders?

Gym I used to use had a bike frame with just the rear wheel on the wall .. and you would peddle it with your arms ... that was a much harder work-out.
You been a speed bag mate. Speed ball is attached to floor and roof by bungie cord.

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umm. attached to floor and roof ... umm ... I`m taking a guess, but, pretty sure they are called floor to ceiling bags :D
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wasnt going the gym a novelty for you billy :DDD :OhYes:
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tonyevs wrote:
carlbcfc wrote:
tonyevs wrote:Aren`t they to do with developing the forearms/shoulders?

Gym I used to use had a bike frame with just the rear wheel on the wall .. and you would peddle it with your arms ... that was a much harder work-out.
You been a speed bag mate. Speed ball is attached to floor and roof by bungie cord.

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umm. attached to floor and roof ... umm ... I`m taking a guess, but, pretty sure they are called floor to ceiling bags :D

Arrr fornicate! TKO! :lol:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdy0ZCuutIQ

Dunno if they are any good but they make you look cool
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carlbcfc wrote:
tonyevs wrote:
carlbcfc wrote: You been a speed bag mate. Speed ball is attached to floor and roof by bungie cord.

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umm. attached to floor and roof ... umm ... I`m taking a guess, but, pretty sure they are called floor to ceiling bags :D

Arrr eff! TKO! :lol:




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Speed bags are one of those pieces of equipment that most gyms have because they have always been associated with boxing but they don't do much to make you a better boxer at all. Sure they work the deltoid muscles in your shoulders but that is about it. I was taking one down in my gym once and a guy asked why and I said because they don't do any good. He says what about hand eye coordination. I said watch this. I turned my head away from it and proceeded to hit it like it is supposed to go (fast). It's a 3 count. You hit it, it hits the platform 3 times and you hit again. Once you have the timing down, it's like riding a bike.
The double end bag (floor to ceiling) is a good bag. If you use a rope on top and bungee on the bottom with the right tension, it is great for learning how to move your head out of the way of punches.
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billy bessey wrote:
hurlock wrote:wasnt going the gym a novelty for you billy :DDD :OhYes:
very true hurlock but anytime you fancy coming to my gym im sure i could dust em off to do a rew rounds with you if ya fancy it???
Ha ha ha; shows you don't have to fit as a flea to be keen as mustard :box:
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T thought the main aim of the speed ball was to get the hands used to being held up. There is a bit of a timing element with it but most hit the ball with the side of the fist in a downward motion. There may be some benefit with hand/eye coordination. For about £50 I think it'd be a good novelty for the garage gym; it can't hurt.
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A key principle of training in any sport is that it must be specific to the activity in question. As far as I can see using a speed bag isn't specific to anything I've ever seen a boxer doing in the ring.
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billy bessey wrote:
hurlock wrote:wasnt going the gym a novelty for you billy :DDD :OhYes:
very true hurlock but anytime you fancy coming to my gym im sure i could dust em off to do a rew rounds with you if ya fancy it???
im not sure you would last one :oops:

they call me the monsoon :!: you'd be expieriancing the painy season :DD
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River Phoenix : "I just took a speedball. I'm gonna die" - he did - just say no
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Nightmare Roy wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdy0ZCuutIQ

Dunno if they are any good but they make you look cool
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3 min rounds, hands up surely will give you stamina in your shoulders. I thought it was about training fast twitch muscles in your arms, giving you more snap.
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We use a speed ball at my gym most weeks for countering and reacting.
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speed ball's are great support to lean against whilst talking :DD
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Post by coneye »

Used correctly there good but not many use them correctly , used to piss me off no end when you were trying to explain a move or a punch to someone and could'nt here yourself for some pratt hitting it has hard has he can , just to make a noise and think he's training hard .

Given that situation i would walk over and instruct him /them , to use it properly and that was ,

Raise your arms ,hands above your head, elbows in together
hit it gently , with arms and elbows continully held up high , get the ryhtm but never drop the arms
keep it up for 3 minuites , times 3 rnds ,

when you think your arms are gonna drop off , fack off and remember not to be a noisy little pratt when the trainers talking , and remember when you have your first fight and cannot hold the arms up , for the whole fight , that the equipment was there to be used for a reason, and the reason is'nt thinking your facking rocky while you watch yourself in the mirror
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