How much longer can the scoring in the amateurs stay?

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lurkyshaka
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How much longer can the scoring in the amateurs stay?

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In all honesty? Rather than looking whose controlling the rounds and winning the fight, its watching out for a point to be pinched, or more truthfully for when perfectly good shots are ignored time and time again. There was a 0-0 fight yesterday. It'd be laughable, but the fighters work too hard to be getting shafted like this.

Body shots are basicaly meaningless in terms of scoring points, the open scoring causes fighters to run and cover up when ahead, etc etc....its terrible!

Put something over the score in the corner, turn the sound off and score the fight yourself.....and it becomes clear about 50% of the fights are going to the wrong men.

The refereeing is so overly picking its ridiculous with absolutely no commonsense.....and the action is constantly broken up as one or other of the fighters gets a b*llocking for nothing things.

There have been some quality looking fighters on display, some genuine talent there. But the system in place absolutely stinks and everyone knows it. When will they sort it out and just start scoring properly?

Brought into combat corruption, the electric boxes do not work and do not uphold the integrity of the sport either. We're still seeing fighters get robbed, only now everyone has to sit watching helplessly as the crime unfolds right in front of the eye.
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I agree with you, but just don't know what you'd replace it with. The problem I've seen is that when they go toe to toe loads of scoring pucnhes get through, but only a couple get counted by the computer. And again, I agree that good body shots are criminally ignored. I've seen some guys win fights that they would lose if they were scored in the professional way, but can see why the computer scoring has been used as it's less likely to cause "home town" decisions. Having said that up till yesterday, an Indian boxer hasn't lost yet!
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Boxing is getting slowly eradicated - the fact that they have abolished a few divisions to make way for female participants to take part in 2012 tells you all you need to know. And it is the fault of the AIBA for being fornicating useless with their meddling and corruption. It goes down to grass roots in amateur boxing, remember when they were going to set a weight limit for the super heavyweight division of 14st 12lbs? :lol: They are a joke and as soon as they lose their big cash cow - the olympics - then the better it will be for the sport as the people at the top will finally be ousted.

Boxing is the only olympic sport with an age limit, so I am told... :shame:
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Tell me about it!I dont know how times ive watched amateur fights and you see great shots that dont even register!If i was a top class amateur boxer that really annoy me!
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I agree. Haven't watched much amateur stuff before but caught some of the games in Delhi today. One of the fights I watched between a Namibian and a northern irish guy ended up with northern irish kid winning on points, but in my eyes he got battered for most of the fight.
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Newport Daz wrote:I agree with you, but just don't know what you'd replace it with. The problem I've seen is that when they go toe to toe loads of scoring pucnhes get through, but only a couple get counted by the computer. And again, I agree that good body shots are criminally ignored. I've seen some guys win fights that they would lose if they were scored in the professional way, but can see why the computer scoring has been used as it's less likely to cause "home town" decisions. Having said that up till yesterday, an Indian boxer hasn't lost yet!
why cant they count the punches like on the tele in the pro's they tell you how many punches land in every round and it seems spot on :TU:
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How many fights this week have you seen in which the "wrong fighter" got the nod?

Do you remember the shíthawking that used to go on with the paper scoring?

The scoring is tight - for both fighters - and the critieria for scoring needs to be loosened up but its the best system out there at the moment.
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slapbangwhallop wrote:How many fights this week have you seen in which the "wrong fighter" got the nod?

Do you remember the shíthawking that used to go on with the paper scoring?

The scoring is tight - for both fighters - and the critieria for scoring needs to be loosened up but its the best system out there at the moment.
No its not. Its a terrible system.

How about just having honest officials scoring without any electronic boxes? And have their performances intensely scrutinised and any dodgy officials weeded out. It'd be quite simple.

The computer scoring was brought into stop corruption, but it simply doesn't work in a fluid sport such as boxing.
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Amnateur boxing is a joke I'm afraid. The fact that body shots seem to be routinely ignored makes a complete mockery of the sport.

They are so incredibly tight with the scoring of shots too, unless it lands absolutely cleanly with the knuckle part of the glove it isn't scored, even though the shot might clearly hurt the opponent.

Knockdowns only score two extra points, so by and large nobody goes for the power shots.

Fighters are so scared to commit in case they get tagged, that most of the contests result in fighters winning with less than 10 shots over 3 rounds!

The referees intervene far too often, and holding and fighting on the inside is so frowned upon that nobody even attempt to fight at close quarters.

It's basically more like fencing than fighting, and it seems to have so little to do with the professional sport as to be two entirely different codes, or frankly two entirely different sports.

By and large nobody throws combinations, because due to the ridiculous business with judges having to press buttons within a split second of one another for the shot to count, if you did so, you're likely to only get one shot scored anyway - so why bother throwing more?

It's frankly a load of old cack.

There's so much wrong with it, that I can't even imagine how to fix it now.
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